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re: Week 3 match up--------- LSU vs Ms St
Posted on 9/10/17 at 6:03 pm to MButterfly
Posted on 9/10/17 at 6:03 pm to MButterfly
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BETTER YET, tell me how your all world RB managed 3.1 ypc LESS against the against that high octane defense?
The answer you are looking for is LSU cant run the ball. Thats what you want to hear right?
Of all the things I have seen people say about LSU over the years, this just might be a first from STATE fans.
I mean, I could totally see how if LSU fans said Etling was going to break it off in yalls arse you would laugh, but the total disregard for our running game is laughable.
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Posted on 9/10/17 at 6:05 pm to JayDeerTay84
I mean, he's good, but LSU defenses are always good because they are always talented. I know we will have a hard time scoring, but it has more to do with our OL sucking than anything else.
Posted on 9/10/17 at 6:06 pm to Ole Messcort
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What'd you do to Dak in 2014?
This what you did to Dak?
You mean those bunch of nobody's that nobody recruited?
Sounds familiar.
Posted on 9/10/17 at 6:06 pm to lsuson
Hopefully Williams and Vincent see a lot of the field for LSU.
Jackson and Toliver are average at best. Fitzgerald could go at those two all night.
Jackson and Toliver are average at best. Fitzgerald could go at those two all night.
Posted on 9/10/17 at 6:07 pm to bfniii
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you're suggesting that both teams are roughly equal in these regards. they're not. how can state fans not know this unless you are 7 years old
Actually, I would argue our first string front 7 is as good if not better. You simply do not have a Simmons on the DL, meanwhile we have a few LB's who were the best at their position coming out of high school.
This post was edited on 9/10/17 at 6:09 pm
Posted on 9/10/17 at 6:07 pm to TonyMontana
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I mean, he's good, but LSU defenses are always good because they are always talented. I know we will have a hard time scoring, but it has more to do with our OL sucking than anything else.
He's damn good. We only gave up 16 TD's last year with a so so pass rush.
I get the cause for caution with Canada. He hasn't proven anything, but Aranda is legit as they come. LSU is blessed on the defensive side of things.
Posted on 9/10/17 at 6:09 pm to BentonTiger7
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Guice would have better ypc if he played more in the second half. He hasn't broken any of the long runs he is known for yet. They are more common in tghe 3rd and 4th quarter when the defense is tired. He hasn't been out there much in the second half. That ypc will get much higher.
State could say that about Williams, Hill the QB...etc. That's a 2 way street.
Posted on 9/10/17 at 6:10 pm to skirpnasty
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Actually, I would argue our first strong front 7 is as good if not better. You simply do not have a Simmons on the DL, meanwhile we have a few LB's who were the best at their position coming out of high school.
Then ya'll go and say shite like this...
We dont have a Simmons type player on Dline?? Well, ok then.
I'd be worried if our Oline transitioned into females, but they didn't.
Posted on 9/10/17 at 6:15 pm to lsuson
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State will have to win through the air and LSU has been defending passing well averaging 1.5 picks a game. I just don't see State running at all on LSU. The front 7 is nasty and if Key is back, Fitz will be running for his life.
No. This is what I love about teams with an arrogant fan base (no offense). You can't see anything other than what you feel the norm is. The norm is "We beat MSU".
You will be shocked when you are in the 4th quarter, 4 sacks, 5 hurries and Guice only has 125 yards and down by 17.
Posted on 9/10/17 at 6:17 pm to skirpnasty
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You simply do not have a Simmons on the DL
Posted on 9/10/17 at 6:24 pm to JayDeerTay84
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Its not a point as much as you make it out to be. Its like saying STATE has a better Oline because of zero sacks with a mobile QB and Bama got sacked by Fresno st.
YOu have a hard time with reading into what is being said and reading things NOT being stated.
This has nothing to do with Bama.... (LSU players need smaller nut guards than bama players.) Neither of those things has anything to do with LSU allowing sacks. NONE.
The relationship with begins and ends with 2 things.
1-LESSER DEFENSES ARE SACKING LSU'S QB.
2- MSU is in the TOP of the nation at defense.
That's were it begins and ends. Any comparison to anything else does NOT apply.
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Well and neither has MSU
Never has been an argument. You simply can not defend what you are reading and want to change it.
You are right... MSU has NOT faced a defense as good as LSUs. Never been a question.
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you know what, if we are just going to throw out the crap teams we both played and looked at the talent, LSU wins.
LOL! Good lord. Bless your heart.
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Congrats on beating the worst team LSU has had since the 90's.
It was full of TALENT. Do I need to pull up the recruiting charts Bossman?
Posted on 9/10/17 at 6:28 pm to JayDeerTay84
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The answer you are looking for is LSU cant run the ball. Thats what you want to hear right?
No. This thread started off as a discussion on what has taken place to date. You chose to take it to one extreme of the other.
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I mean, I could totally see how if LSU fans said Etling was going to break it off in yalls arse you would laugh, but the total disregard for our running game is laughable
HA... who has said there was a total disregard for your run game?
Again, spend more time on the actual words typed and not adding to them.
Posted on 9/10/17 at 6:30 pm to skirpnasty
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Actually, I would argue our first string front 7 is as good if not better. You simply do not have a Simmons on the DL, meanwhile we have a few LB's who were the best at their position coming out of high school.
MSU is 2 deep on the front 7 without drop off. Leo Lewis isn't even starting. That's the amount of talent I have seen on the field for MSU.
Posted on 9/10/17 at 6:32 pm to JayDeerTay84
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I'd be worried if our Oline transitioned into females, but they didn't.
No, they didn't but they are not as good as last year... not even close.
Posted on 9/10/17 at 6:33 pm to MButterfly
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No, they didn't but they are not as good as last year... not even close.
Says who? You?
Posted on 9/10/17 at 6:34 pm to MButterfly
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MSU is 2 deep on the front 7 without drop off. Leo Lewis isn't even starting. That's the amount of talent I have seen on the field for MSU.
This post was edited on 9/10/17 at 6:35 pm
Posted on 9/10/17 at 6:35 pm to MButterfly
These stats are all fricked up! How in the world is LSU giving up 10 pt a game when we zipped BYU and only gave up 10 pts in yesterday's game.
Rush and passing stats are wrong too! frick you!
Rush and passing stats are wrong too! frick you!
Posted on 9/10/17 at 6:38 pm to MButterfly
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YOu have a hard time with reading into what is being said and reading things NOT being stated.
This has nothing to do with Bama.... (LSU players need smaller nut guards than bama players.) Neither of those things has anything to do with LSU allowing sacks. NONE.
The relationship with begins and ends with 2 things.
1-LESSER DEFENSES ARE SACKING LSU'S QB.
2- MSU is in the TOP of the nation at defense.
That's were it begins and ends. Any comparison to anything else does NOT apply.
Yet, LSU and MSU have given up the same number of tackles for a loss.
The difference? MSU has a mobile QB.
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Never has been an argument. You simply can not defend what you are reading and want to change it.
You are right... MSU has NOT faced a defense as good as LSUs. Never been a question.
And no one said LSU had faced one as good as MSU's yet, but you know, you brought that up...
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LOL! Good lord. Bless your heart.
Yea its funny State thinks they have the same level of talent.
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It was full of TALENT. Do I need to pull up the recruiting charts Bossman?
Please do. Doesn't matter. LSU out recruits everyone in the SEC not named Bama on a pretty consistent basis.
Top to bottom MSU has the "clear" advantage in QB play. Thats about it brother.
Posted on 9/10/17 at 6:38 pm to JayDeerTay84
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Says who? You?
Says the numbers.
Something is off from last year. Regardless if you want to admit it. It could be they have not adapted to the blocking schemes or new players... youth...
But that line is not as good as last year..... Not yet.
So we have have 2 facts (facts backed up by the numbers)
1- MSU starters on defense are off the chart better than last year.
2- LSU offense is not as strong in rushing as last year and is allowing people to the QB that they should not have been.
Those are the facts... not hyped up. not bias... and there is noway you can magically prove otherwise.
Posted on 9/10/17 at 6:41 pm to MButterfly
Numbers from what? The first two games? The same games you said are meaningless (at least for LSU)?
Go ahead and count on those "numbers," hoss.
I don't believe you.
Go ahead and count on those "numbers," hoss.
I don't believe you.
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