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Why Is LSU's Defense Called The Chinese Bandits?
Posted on 1/8/15 at 4:24 pm
Posted on 1/8/15 at 4:24 pm
Is this
A. Like the Ole Miss mascot thing where it is based on some racist stereotype of Chinese people that gets whitewashed in the modern era?
Or
B. Did yall have some Chinese-Americans back on your DL in the 50's or something that dominated everyone and you are proud of your teams diverse history?
Google tells me its related to the 1958 football team, and that wiki page tells me:
None of those names sounds Chinese so I am thinking the answer is A, but I wanted to double check because that would be racist of me to assume.
Thank you in advance.
A. Like the Ole Miss mascot thing where it is based on some racist stereotype of Chinese people that gets whitewashed in the modern era?
Or
B. Did yall have some Chinese-Americans back on your DL in the 50's or something that dominated everyone and you are proud of your teams diverse history?
Google tells me its related to the 1958 football team, and that wiki page tells me:
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Chinese Bandits consisted of Andy Bourgeois, Carroll Bergeron, Mel Branch, Ed Cassidy, Emile Fournet, John Langan, Tommy Lott, Duane Leopard, Gaynell Kinchen,Darryl Jenkins, Henry Lee Roberts, Hart Bourque, Merle Schexnaildre
None of those names sounds Chinese so I am thinking the answer is A, but I wanted to double check because that would be racist of me to assume.
Thank you in advance.

Posted on 1/8/15 at 4:26 pm to cardboardboxer
Real reason Chavis #gone. He just couldn't deal with blatant racism against Asians any longer.
Posted on 1/8/15 at 4:27 pm to cardboardboxer
Neat new invention on the interwebs
called google...
Posted on 1/8/15 at 4:27 pm to cardboardboxer
While their names might not sound chinese heres a picture.
Posted on 1/8/15 at 4:32 pm to cardboardboxer
They look Chinese to me.
Posted on 1/8/15 at 4:34 pm to cardboardboxer
they got nothing on the Wet Bandits
Posted on 1/8/15 at 4:36 pm to cardboardboxer
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Chinese Bandits consisted of Andy Bourgeois, Carroll Bergeron, Mel Branch, Ed Cassidy, Emile Fournet, John Langan, Tommy Lott, Duane Leopard, Gaynell Kinchen,Darryl Jenkins, Henry Lee Roberts, Hart Bourque, Merle Schexnaildre
Those are all Cajun-Asian names
Posted on 1/8/15 at 4:37 pm to cardboardboxer
chicken really needs to clean this place up
Posted on 1/8/15 at 4:40 pm to Lsuhoohoo
Pretty funny, couldn't get away with that today though.
Posted on 1/8/15 at 4:41 pm to sunnydaze
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chicken really needs to clean this place up
Yeah. No shite. Worst board on TD.
I happen to know exactly why LSU's defense is nicknamed the Chinese Bandits, OP. I would explain it to you, but I think I'll just say frick you instead.
Posted on 1/8/15 at 4:41 pm to s_i5
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Neat new invention on the interwebs
called google...
I did Google and results were in OP. The one article that really would have answered my question is now off the internet, buts its URL had the word "racism" in the name so that is why A is A and not B.
Posted on 1/8/15 at 4:42 pm to ipodking
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Those are all Cajun-Asian names
See, that is why I ask. I hate making assumptions like that.
Thank you for the answer.

Posted on 1/8/15 at 4:44 pm to SpqrTiger
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I happen to know exactly why LSU's defense is nicknamed the Chinese Bandits, OP. I would explain it to you, but I think I'll just say frick you instead.
Posted on 1/8/15 at 4:53 pm to SpqrTiger
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I happen to know exactly why LSU's defense is nicknamed the Chinese Bandits
Well shite, I would really like to know.
Posted on 1/8/15 at 4:57 pm to cardboardboxer
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whitewashed
Only a racist would use that term.
Posted on 1/8/15 at 5:00 pm to cardboardboxer
Here, it took two seconds to find on google,now STFU
Back in 1958, Paul Dietzel who was coach then had a problem. He had a lot of talent, especially in the backfield. Back then, substitution rules were very different. There was a new substitution rule that allowed any player -- not just starters -- to come off the field and go back in again once each quarter. The rule stopped short of permitting a return to two-platoon football, so Dietzel went with the next best thing—three platoons: a two-way unit of his best players, an offensive second team, and a defensive second team. If a player came out, he could not go back in for a while. So, most teams would platoon players in, eleven at a time. The first string would go both ways, offense and defense, the second string was offense only, and the third string was defense only. In the first few games, when LSU was leading by quite a few points, the 3rd string would go in on defense. Now, it was not that the 3rd string was not good, on most teams, they would be starters. Well, they would smother the offense of the other team. A lot of the defense was made up of big fast backs. They were the defensive ends, and line backers mostly. And even the defensive line was very fast. Very seldom would you see a single player making a tackle, it was usually gang tackling. And, since they were still third string, they played with the idea of moving up, so I think they played with more heart.
Anyway, after one game, the reporters were commenting and asking questions to coach Paul. He made the comment that they played like a bunch of Chinese Bandits. Now, a very popular comic strip back then was "Terry and the Pirates". He was always in conflict with, what else, Chinese bandits.
Folklore said that Chinese bandits attacked and plundered with that same reckless abandon. The defensive subs were known as the "Chinese Bandits" and their inspired play (they didn't give up a touchdown all season) symbolized LSU's remarkable 11-0 campaign. The Tigers reached No.1 the seventh week of the season and went on to win their first Sugar Bowl in five tries.
The name stuck, thanks to the reporters. So, the first string was the "White team", the second string became the "Go team" and the third string became the "Chinese Bandits". The "Bandits" were getting more press than just about anyone else. It was sealed when "Sports Illustrated" did an article on them. In those days they would always list minutes each kid played in a game and seldom did any member of the Bandits play more than 10 minutes.
Back in 1958, Paul Dietzel who was coach then had a problem. He had a lot of talent, especially in the backfield. Back then, substitution rules were very different. There was a new substitution rule that allowed any player -- not just starters -- to come off the field and go back in again once each quarter. The rule stopped short of permitting a return to two-platoon football, so Dietzel went with the next best thing—three platoons: a two-way unit of his best players, an offensive second team, and a defensive second team. If a player came out, he could not go back in for a while. So, most teams would platoon players in, eleven at a time. The first string would go both ways, offense and defense, the second string was offense only, and the third string was defense only. In the first few games, when LSU was leading by quite a few points, the 3rd string would go in on defense. Now, it was not that the 3rd string was not good, on most teams, they would be starters. Well, they would smother the offense of the other team. A lot of the defense was made up of big fast backs. They were the defensive ends, and line backers mostly. And even the defensive line was very fast. Very seldom would you see a single player making a tackle, it was usually gang tackling. And, since they were still third string, they played with the idea of moving up, so I think they played with more heart.
Anyway, after one game, the reporters were commenting and asking questions to coach Paul. He made the comment that they played like a bunch of Chinese Bandits. Now, a very popular comic strip back then was "Terry and the Pirates". He was always in conflict with, what else, Chinese bandits.
Folklore said that Chinese bandits attacked and plundered with that same reckless abandon. The defensive subs were known as the "Chinese Bandits" and their inspired play (they didn't give up a touchdown all season) symbolized LSU's remarkable 11-0 campaign. The Tigers reached No.1 the seventh week of the season and went on to win their first Sugar Bowl in five tries.
The name stuck, thanks to the reporters. So, the first string was the "White team", the second string became the "Go team" and the third string became the "Chinese Bandits". The "Bandits" were getting more press than just about anyone else. It was sealed when "Sports Illustrated" did an article on them. In those days they would always list minutes each kid played in a game and seldom did any member of the Bandits play more than 10 minutes.
Posted on 1/8/15 at 5:00 pm to therick711
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Only a racist would use that term.
Um?
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To whitewash is a metaphor meaning to gloss over or cover up vices, crimes or scandals
From Britannica.
Posted on 1/8/15 at 5:01 pm to cardboardboxer
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Why Is LSU's Defense Called The Chinese Bandits?
They aren't.
It was a thing in 1958.
DiNardo brought back the concept in 1997 when we played (and defeated) #1 Florida.
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but I wanted to double check because that would be racist of me to assume.
I wouldn't call you racist. Trollish, perhaps.
The band plays tribute to the Chinese Bandits every time the defense forces fourth down. The song is unbelievably un-PC but Baton Rouge isn't Berkeley so we DGAF.
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