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Josh Pate stated SEC is looking for a reason to burn the CFP down.

Posted on 11/21/24 at 10:56 am
Posted by SemperFiDawg
Member since Sep 2014
2510 posts
Posted on 11/21/24 at 10:56 am
Stated existing structure only extends until next year and that if a 2 loss SEC team gets left out in lieu of a mediocre team from another conference that would be the excuse they used to do so. My question is, "To what end?" Where does the SEC envision it going? What would be their end game?
Posted by elposter
Member since Dec 2010
26169 posts
Posted on 11/21/24 at 10:58 am to
It is just a talking head talking. We have 1000s of them trying to fill millions of hours of "airtime."
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
87920 posts
Posted on 11/21/24 at 10:58 am to
The writing is on the wall and has been for a while. The powers that be are absolutely hell bent on turning college football into NFL-lite. Conference expansion will continue adn what we'll eventaully end up with is the "SEC" and "Big 10" each having 24 members and the champion of each conference squaring off in a national championship game.

Posted by NWLA_Bama
Member since Aug 2024
81 posts
Posted on 11/21/24 at 10:59 am to
I think the SEC and BIG 10 already have plans to do their own thing at some point. They're just waiting for the right moment and there's nothing like the right moment than the committee letting in a Boise St or BYU type of team over a two-loss SEC team that everyone knows would skull drag them.
Posted by Landmass
Member since Jun 2013
20080 posts
Posted on 11/21/24 at 11:02 am to
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Conference expansion will continue adn what we'll eventaully end up with is the "SEC" and "Big 10" each having 24 members


The SEC seems to be against any further expansion.
Posted by SemperFiDawg
Member since Sep 2014
2510 posts
Posted on 11/21/24 at 11:04 am to
makes sense
Posted by HottyToddy7
Member since Sep 2010
15054 posts
Posted on 11/21/24 at 11:05 am to
To be fair, an 8 team SEC only playoff on campus for round of 8 and round of 4 would get ratings close to what this years CFB playoff would get.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
103415 posts
Posted on 11/21/24 at 11:05 am to
At this point whatever they do needs to involve eliminating the non "Power 4" or whatever we are calling it teams and ensure more cross-pollination of games between all conferences.

B1G team, for instance
- 8 B1G games
- 2 SEC games
- 1 B12 game
- 1 ACC game

SEC team
- 8 SEC games
- 2 B1G games
- 1 B12 game
- 1 ACC game

I think we'd all prefer to keep all the "major" programs in the same organization (the teams currently in the Power 4 + ND or some version of that where we have 60-65 teams), but we have to all play eachother so that certain teams/conferences aren't silod off for 12 games like they are right now.
This post was edited on 11/21/24 at 11:07 am
Posted by GurleyGirl
Georgia
Member since Nov 2015
13897 posts
Posted on 11/21/24 at 11:35 am to
No clue how the this play out but I am hoping for an all SEC final to put the playoff committee in their place.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
66722 posts
Posted on 11/21/24 at 11:37 am to
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we'll eventaully end up with is the "SEC" and "Big 10" each having 24 members and the champion of each conference squaring off in a national championship game.

and we'll eventually start having divisions within those conferences that look like the conferences did pre expansion
Posted by Che Boludo
Member since May 2009
19736 posts
Posted on 11/21/24 at 11:40 am to
Do away with auto-bids. Just rank the top 12 and let them play it out. Reward the top 4 with the bye and the next 4 with homefield 1st round. That would be a start.
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
87920 posts
Posted on 11/21/24 at 11:43 am to
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and we'll eventually start having divisions within those conferences that look like the conferences did pre expansion


It would be so awesome for the insanity to swing so far that it comes back full circle. Imagine a division of the super-mega-league that consists of 8-10 of the original SEC members.
Posted by StansberryRules
Member since Aug 2024
1339 posts
Posted on 11/21/24 at 11:53 am to
The SEC is big enough to just break off and do it's own thing if they wanted to.
Posted by FightingOkra
Member since Oct 2024
40 posts
Posted on 11/21/24 at 12:01 pm to
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No clue how the this play out but I am hoping for an all SEC final to put the playoff committee in their place.



They'll never let that happen. They'll have all the SEC schools on the same side of the bracket or playing each other before the championship game.
Posted by Ptins944
Member since Jan 2019
1732 posts
Posted on 11/21/24 at 12:03 pm to
quote:

The SEC is big enough to just break off and do it's own thing if they wanted to.
The SEC needs to learn how to balance the schedule within the SEC before they touch anything else.

It also wouldn't hurt for some of the SEC schools to venture outside of their little sand box and play other schools so we have more data points on the relative strengths of the teams and the conferences.
Posted by Summer of Jimbo
Amateur Statistician
Member since Oct 2022
1601 posts
Posted on 11/21/24 at 12:03 pm to
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SEC is looking for a reason to burn the CFP down


Name a CFB post season that hasn’t already been dominated and burned down by the SEC. All they do is make new ones . And the cycle repeats.
This post was edited on 11/21/24 at 12:05 pm
Posted by llfshoals
Member since Nov 2010
18058 posts
Posted on 11/21/24 at 12:07 pm to
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It is just a talking head talking. We have 1000s of them trying to fill millions of hours of "airtime."
Most of the time you’d be right. Given how things are shaping up and the committee’s public preference to record versus schedule it’s rather obvious the current format will favor teams with weak conferences and poor OOC schedules. Josh is taking a pretty good read of the room IMO.

I’m seriously annoyed Notre Dame is getting a pass. A&M is a good win, but the rest of their schedule is trash. They need to be told to join a conference or else.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
103415 posts
Posted on 11/21/24 at 12:08 pm to
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It also wouldn't hurt for some of the SEC schools to venture outside of their little sand box and play other schools so we have more data points on the relative strengths of the teams and the conferences.


I mean we kind of tried that as a league, didn't we?

B1G
- Michigan
- Wisconsin
- USC
- UCLA

ACC
- Clemson
- Miami
- Georgia Tech
- Virginia Tech
- Louisville
- Florida State
- California
- Boston College
- NC State
- Wake Forest

B12
- UCF
- Oklahoma State
- Arizona State
- Houston

- Notre Dame
- Tulane
This post was edited on 11/21/24 at 12:10 pm
Posted by WG_Dawg
Member since Jun 2004
87920 posts
Posted on 11/21/24 at 12:10 pm to
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It also wouldn't hurt for some of the SEC schools to venture outside of their little sand box and play other schools


that's the exact opposite of what needs to happen. Thsi year is a crystal clear case study in that.

UGA has the toughest SOS in america (bama, texas, and ole miss all on the road) and also chose to play clemson at a netural site. Meanwhile the indiana/penn state/miamis of the world kick back and play N-O-B-O-D-Y all season and coast to the top of the rankings. Why on earth would any SEC team willingly make their scheudle any harder knowing what we now know? The committee DGAF about how hard your schedule is.
Posted by Shaft Williams
Central City, LA
Member since Jul 2010
9984 posts
Posted on 11/21/24 at 12:13 pm to
Remember that joint B10 and SEC meeting? Of course those two conferences are going to split away and either create their own thing. The networks are the unseen hands behind it all.
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