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re: Coaches whose firing hurt the program

Posted on 7/24/24 at 6:39 pm to
Posted by Griffindawg
Member since Oct 2013
6907 posts
Posted on 7/24/24 at 6:39 pm to
Mullen is baffling. He has miss state rolling and then destroyed Florida.
Posted by theCAW
Polk County
Member since Dec 2023
3430 posts
Posted on 7/24/24 at 6:44 pm to
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Mullen is baffling. He has miss state rolling and then destroyed Florida.
some coaches do well at programs with lower expectations/ceilings

Rich rod did well at west Virginia and Arizona but was awful at Michigan

Justin Fuentes was great at Memphis and terrible at VT

Mullen is that type of coach. He’d be great for a program like Cuse or BC.
Posted by StrongOffer
Member since Sep 2020
4949 posts
Posted on 7/24/24 at 6:47 pm to
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Les Miles. LSU has been a laughing stock since.
Posted by TN Tygah
Member since Nov 2023
5174 posts
Posted on 7/24/24 at 6:54 pm to
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USC firing Lane Kiffin


OVERRATED. He sucked arse at USC. He is mediocre at Ole Miss. 1st and 3rd season sucked arse. 2nd and 4th season were good but not amazing. Certainly not deserving of the hype he gets.

Outside of that his only success came in Conference USA. Bad.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
35098 posts
Posted on 7/24/24 at 6:58 pm to
I remember when people thought Richt was the best answer for this. “You fired a 10 win coach!”
Posted by dchog
Pea Ridge
Member since Nov 2012
23498 posts
Posted on 7/24/24 at 7:04 pm to
He was fine at state but still couldn't get the players needed to get State over the hump.

Florida thought just being Florida that the name would recruit itself no matter what coach they hired.

They were wrong with Mullen.
Posted by theCAW
Polk County
Member since Dec 2023
3430 posts
Posted on 7/24/24 at 7:06 pm to
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He was fine at state but still couldn't get the players needed to get State over the hump. Florida thought just being Florida that the name would recruit itself no matter what coach they hired. They were wrong with Mullen.
a lot of what he did to get fired from Florida (awful recruiting, mailing it in for games at a time after losing a big game, nepotism and no accountability for assistant coaches) he had been doing at State too, people blamed it on State being State but the truth is it was Mullen who held State back from taking the next step.
Posted by dchog
Pea Ridge
Member since Nov 2012
23498 posts
Posted on 7/24/24 at 7:23 pm to
It is a lot harder to win at State considering the decades of terrible football history and the negative stigma attached with recruiting.

State needed a future HOF coach to get them to the next level and Florida got a average coach that gave them average results.
Posted by Che Boludo
Member since May 2009
19447 posts
Posted on 7/24/24 at 7:24 pm to
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He sucked arse at USC

He took over in 2010 just as sanctions (2 yr bowl ban) and scholarship reductions (3 years) were taking place. He coached for 3.5 seasons with a 10-2 season in the mix. He was 3-2 when fired in 2013 down 30 scholarship players.

It could have been worse. He was a good coach, but had a lot of maturing to do. Some may argue he still does, but he's still a good coach and seems to be getting better.
Posted by Nero Wolfe
Member since Jul 2024
65 posts
Posted on 7/24/24 at 8:04 pm to
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Firing Fulmer the Greatest Pumpkin of them all screwed us for over a decade

No, not firing him earlier screwed us.

Mike Hamilton passing hiring Gary Patterson and hiring Lane Kiffin is what really screwed UT.

Brian Kelly, who wanted the job, would have been better than Kiffin.
Posted by Nero Wolfe
Member since Jul 2024
65 posts
Posted on 7/24/24 at 8:05 pm to
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Philip Fulmer Tennessee. Should have Camp Phil for another year or so until they found a better coach to take over. Then , Derek Dooley.


See comment above this one.
Posted by TrueLefty
St. Louis County
Member since Oct 2017
15657 posts
Posted on 7/24/24 at 11:07 pm to
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Mack Brown at Texas caused a decade long wandering in the wilderness of mediocrity, but it was necessary. Tbh it should have happened a few years earlier...as in right after losing the CCG to Bama and not stepping down for the head coach in waiting, Will Muschamp. Of course we know Muschamp didn't exactly light the world on fire as HC at other programs, but who knows how he would have done at Texas?

While I think firing MB was ultimately the catalyst for the lost decade, dumb hiring decisions (Charlie Strong, Mensa Tom) played a much bigger role. I really hope all that is behind us now, at least Sark is trending in the right direction with steady improvement over his 3 seasons.

He is a Georgia grad and will do the same to make sure Georgia is on top. Just look around what he did to all those other programs. He burned it down each one of them.
Posted by scrooster
Resident Ethicist
Member since Jul 2012
39268 posts
Posted on 7/25/24 at 6:19 am to
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Good one. Southern Miss was the one G5 school you always felt nervous about playing.


The only one huh?

Hmmmmmmmm
Posted by Bubbles Up
Member since Jul 2011
2910 posts
Posted on 7/25/24 at 6:22 am to
Damnit, Bobby!
Posted by CarolinaGamecock99
Member since Apr 2015
22840 posts
Posted on 7/25/24 at 6:26 am to
Frank Solich has to be the worst firing in sports history. Dude was 58-19 but that wasn’t good enough for the Cornhuskers. Bet they wish they had that level of success still
Posted by bamameister
Right here, right now
Member since May 2016
15839 posts
Posted on 7/25/24 at 6:45 am to
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6-8 wins a year is dangerous?



Give the guy his due. Florida won 4 games the previous year before he took over. Going 10-3 and 11-2 the next 2 years was not chopped liver. In 2020, before the shoe-throwing game, and a close loss in the SECCG to BAMA, that team was good. That's 3 years of Florida with a playoff pulse by today's 12-team Playoff. In 2021 it was a down year, but frankly, that's what he did at Miss State. Then he would reload and have them playing hard again. The Hierarchy just didn't care for his antics and he was gone.
Posted by bamabaseballsec
Member since Dec 2020
2030 posts
Posted on 7/25/24 at 8:53 am to
I agree with this statement in general but rich rod was never given a real chance at mich. he was met with opposition from the boosters and fans day 1.
Posted by theCAW
Polk County
Member since Dec 2023
3430 posts
Posted on 7/25/24 at 9:58 am to
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That's 3 years of Florida with a playoff pulse by today's 12-team Playoff.
unfortunately there was no 12 team playoff then so it’s not relevant
Posted by theCAW
Polk County
Member since Dec 2023
3430 posts
Posted on 7/25/24 at 10:10 am to
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Florida won 4 games the previous year before he took over.
they had a cupcake that got cancelled so they went 4-7 instead of 5-7

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Going 10-3 and 11-2 the next 2 years was not chopped liver

It was a lot of luck

Luck that fsu hired Taggart and Tennessee hired Pruitt

Luck that scar had Will Muschamp and mark Richt had to medically retire randomly so Miami hired manny Diaz as a last min replacement

Luck that Felipe franks got hurt vs Kentucky because with franks that was a 7-5/8-4 type team

Dan had success at Florida despite of himself

Posted by lsudave1
Baton Metairie
Member since Jan 2005
8507 posts
Posted on 7/25/24 at 10:24 am to
Different sport but Will Wade seems to be a pretty obvious answer at this point. For football, I agree with Gus and Mullen.
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