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Posted on 5/1/19 at 9:48 am to
Posted by Pygthagorean Theorem
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 9:48 am to
To be honest, Vanover is very soft for a 7'3" guy. He wouldn't have gotten any PT just like Ibby didn't.
Posted by WonderWartHawg
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 9:52 am to
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you dont offer a 7'-3" kid from your own back yard


I figure the biggest factor was that he didn't seem to get up and down the court very fast in the film that I watched.
Posted by BadPiggy
NW Arkansas
Member since Jan 2015
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 2:07 pm to
While that may very well be true, and I suspected he may not be real mobile. But it's not like there wasn't player complete unproductive on the team from points, rebounding, etc., and at 7-3 should have been able to help on offensive rebounds at least.
Posted by vodka
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 2:12 pm to
A 7'3 guy who can shoot 35% from behind the arc is a GREAT situtational player to come off the bench si this thread real lol?
Posted by Pygthagorean Theorem
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 2:24 pm to
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A 7'3 guy who can shoot 35% from behind the arc is a GREAT situtational player to come off the bench si this thread real lol?


I understand, but if he were playing for Mike, he wouldn't have gotten any PT. He's slow and soft. He would have just sat on the bench the whole time just like Ibby.
Posted by RazorHawg
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 2:38 pm to
I don’t know if soft is the right term.

He’s a thinner, taller Hunter Mickelson.

7’3” shooters are unicorns though.
Posted by rockiee
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 8:54 pm to
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7’3” shooters are unicorns though.


The ability for a 5 to pull the other 5 away from the rim can be incredibly valuable. There are many NBA teams that are trying to do that to create easier paths to the hoop as well as shooters from every position. I think that trend will continue in the future.
This post was edited on 5/1/19 at 9:00 pm
Posted by RazorHawg
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 9:20 pm to
Especially as a trailer on the fast break or push too.
Posted by BadPiggy
NW Arkansas
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 10:07 pm to
Big O did exactly this to Shaq of LSU. Was beautiful sight seeing Shaq soooo uncomfortable while out from under the basket. But he didnt have a choice. Miller was killing from outside, and once Shaq was out of the middle our guards ate their lunch.
Posted by RazorHawg
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 5/1/19 at 11:12 pm to
Jaylin Williams goes from NR on Rivals to #100 based off his play the last 15 days.

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Posted by boogiewoogie1978
Little Rock
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Posted on 5/2/19 at 11:28 am to
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To be honest, Vanover is very soft for a 7'3" guy. He wouldn't have gotten any PT just like Ibby didn't.


I wounder if he can develop his defensive game. Tacko Fall had a major impact on their NCAA games by just altering shots.
Posted by HogX
Madison, WI
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 5/2/19 at 11:32 am to
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I wounder if he can develop his defensive game. Tacko Fall had a major impact on their NCAA games by just altering shots.



Those 3 blocks a game over his last 3 games seems to indicate he could at least become a really solid rim protector. Doesn't seem like much of a rebounder though.
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
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Posted on 5/3/19 at 10:35 am to
Kevin McPherson
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@moses_moody3 on his Thursday visit from Hogs asst @CoachWilliams12: "I got to know Coach Corey a little bit, that was my first time meeting him ... He said he's going to show up a lot & try to make it where I say Arkansas recruits me the hardest."
Posted by rockiee
Sugar Land, TX
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Posted on 5/3/19 at 10:40 am to
Kevin had an article out last night that had a good breakdown of the past week. I know some of this has already been covered

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Arkansas assistant coach Corey Williams traveled to Arizona on Monday to see 2020 Arkansas offer Kyree Walker (6-5 combo guard, Hillcrest Prep in Phoenix, ESPN national No. 13 / 5-star prospect). Walker's Dad, Khari Walker, said: "It went great!"

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Musselman and Arkansas staff coach Anthony Ruta were in West Memphis on Tuesday to see 2020 Arkansas offer Chris Moore (6-6 combo forward, West Memphis, composite national 4-star prospect), who also had coaches from Tennessee in to see him on Wednesday.

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Arkansas coaches on Tuesday were in to see 2020 Greg Brown (6-9 forward, Vandergrift High School, Austin, TX, composite national No. 6 / 5-star prospect), who is the top-rated junior in Texas.


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Arkansas staff coach Hays Myers was at Fort Smith Northside on Wednesday morning to see 2020 Arkansas offer Jaylin Williams (6-10 forward / center, Fort Smith Northside, national No. 100 / 4-star prospect according to Rivals.com). Williams talked about Arkansas's visit: "It went good. (Myers) told us things to get to know Coach Musselman more and he told us about himself. He also (talked about) how they like to play and that Coach Musselman liked the way that I play." Williams picked up an offer from Auburn on Wednesday to go with offers from the Hogs, Oklahoma, State, TCU, Tulsa, and Lamar.

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Arkansas staff coach Hays Myers was at Bryant on Wednesday afternoon to see 2020 Khalen "KK" Robinson (6-1 combo guard, Bryant), who after opening eyes nationally over the weekend at the Nike EYBL session in Atlanta has drawn interest from the Hogs, Virginia Tech, Clemson, Oklahoma State, Houston, and others. Robinson talked about the visit from Arkansas: "I don't know Coach Musselman personally but heard some good things from Coach Myers (the assistant that visited). But I really like where they are going with the program, and their style of basketball."


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Musselman and Ruta traveled to California on Wednesday to see Cal freshman-transfer and Arkansas native Connor Vanover (7-3, 225, stretch-5, won two state titles at Baptist prep in Little Rock). On Tuesday, Vanover's plans to visit Arkansas (May 9-10) and Vanderbilt (May 7-8) next week were announced.



Posted by RazorHawg
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 5/3/19 at 9:24 pm to
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Harrison @Harrisoniingram

After a great talk with @CoachWilliams12 , I am thankful to say I have received an offer from The University of Arkansas #GoRazorbacks


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Posted by ocelot4ark
Dallas, TX
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Posted on 5/4/19 at 9:07 am to
Would be a huge get for sure.
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 5/4/19 at 10:05 am to
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I don’t know if soft is the right term.

He’s a thinner, taller Hunter Mickelson.


If that is the comparison, then soft is absolutely the correct term.

Is a 7'3" transfer who would have to sit out a year to be a role player off the bench in the future what the roster needs?

Big tall guys are essential if you are playing 1970's 15' and in basketball, but the trend since the three point line was added as been superior guards leading to tournament success with the game from the NBA down trending more towards a perimeter game.

From what I can recall about him and why he ended up at postclownzopoculpse at Cal is that he wasn't good at running the floor, again this is fine with a 1970s mentality of walk it up and possess the ball for as long as possible, but it is why any team who likes a more uptempo flow to the offense passed on him.
Posted by DaleDenton
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Posted on 5/4/19 at 10:12 am to
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Big O did exactly this to Shaq of LSU. Was beautiful sight seeing Shaq soooo uncomfortable while out from under the basket. But he didnt have a choice. Miller was killing from outside, and once Shaq was out of the middle our guards ate their lunch.


It wasn't O's ability to shoot the ball as much as it was Dale Brown's refusal to play zone, O just had to walk up the the court, stand five foot from the 3 point line at the top of the key and there is Shaq too far away to help defend the basket.

Stewart was a center who could shoot the three from NBA range, more often than not the shot was there whenever he wanted it because the opposing center wasn't going to go much past the free throw line extended to guard him.

Interesting theory, but now days teams will have guys 6-8"-6'10" who can not only guard tight in man to man scenarios against bigs like this, but every team will switch a screen that will allow an open look, or take away the drive with a quicker player on the switch, or just play zone.

We have a good core group of young guards, a true point guard, a true shooting guard, the roster needs a few forwards who can also handle the ball on the perimeter and coming up the court, IMO.
Posted by DaleDenton
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 5/4/19 at 10:19 am to
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Would be a huge get for sure.


I find it interesting that Muss was recruiting all of these 4 and 5 star players, hard, to Nevada. Each one who has popped up on the radar for Arkansas stems from his prior relationship in recruiting them while at fricking Nevada.

On the surface all you really saw was him taking transfers to complete his roster, probably because he was at fricking Nevada and striking out on the guys he was recruiting from HS.

This is what I'm pleasantly surprised to see from him so far in contrast to Chad "high school legend" Morris who I thought would have the success immediately like Muss appears will have. I didn't realize that he wasn't recruiting to SMU above his perceived level of SMU until after he was hired.

I believe it says more about each man's confidence in themselves and fear of failure, Muss has none, he seems to have already known every successful person in the world has faced 10x the amount of failure in their lives.
Posted by beebefootballfan
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 5/4/19 at 12:03 pm to
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Per source, Arkansas asst coach Corey Williams @CoachWilliams12 was at Daytona State College on Thursday to see '19 Khadim Sy @khadimsy1 (6-10 F/C, Nat'l Top 5 juco prospect) ... Sy is working on a visit date to Arkansas, & per source has cancelled wknd visit to LSU ... say tuned



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