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re: Steps into my flame proof suit - time to shite or your arse will be knocked off of the pot!
Posted on 10/24/24 at 7:34 pm to CRIIMSON
Posted on 10/24/24 at 7:34 pm to CRIIMSON
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The cigar thing is overblown. Each player/coach is given one because it’s an away game. He probably shouldn’t have had it visible but oh well.
I buy cigars every year, they don’t get unwrapped or chewed on until we win, when we lose they go in the trash. Nobody cares what I do with mine, but to be a coach and walk in with it your mouth looking like your ready to smoke it, yes it’s cocky, but you gotta back it up.
They didn’t back shite up, they look like punks.
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Posted on 10/24/24 at 7:44 pm to cdur86
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It’s all about return on investment. If you don’t feel you’re getting enjoyment out of your investment you will find something else to spend it on. I’m most disappointed in lack of discipline yet again. I’ve decided to spend my time on other things until they can straighten that out
You and I see things alike. I turned off the TV last Saturday before halftime, because I had vowed not to watch any more bad football on Saturdays if the fumbling and bumbling continued. I have already planned a fishing outing for this Saturday.
It’s one thing to have lack of talent as a reason for a team’s struggles, but I had already tired of seeing Bama flop around and embarrass itself the last couple of seasons. I had hoped beyond hope that the new staff and energy would right the ship somewhat, but instead it has regressed. I wasn’t a donor to begin with, but I certainly would be withholding funds now if I were. My fandom has become a lot more casual over the last decade anyway. Much better for the mental and physical health. Rather relax for a day on the water rather than stress about another ugly performance from a group of spoiled, entitled kids.
Posted on 10/24/24 at 7:47 pm to Crimsonpirate23
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Another way of sliding back to the pre-saban times is folks sticking their head in the sand.
And another way is giving back any kind of power to the boosters Saban neutered. For the last 17 years Saban told those guys to mind their business, enjoy their perks, and keep the money coming. They've been waiting all that time to get back some of the influence they had pre-saban. It would be a mistake to let them.
Posted on 10/24/24 at 7:50 pm to dominantD
The definition of a fair weather fan:
It ok though, if that’s how you deal with it fine, but the people who do invest a lot won’t stop watching but will stop giving, there is a difference.
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I turned off the TV last Saturday before halftime, because I had vowed not to watch any more bad football on Saturdays
It ok though, if that’s how you deal with it fine, but the people who do invest a lot won’t stop watching but will stop giving, there is a difference.
Posted on 10/24/24 at 8:13 pm to RollTide33
This is the last thing I am going to say in this thread , so here it goes . When i looked at Bama’s schedule coming into this year I went back and forth between 9-3 and 10-2. Saint can see my prediction on SECRANT bc I am not sure what I ended up going with . I say that bc all this talk of money being pulled and higher ups getting involved etc ( after 7 games 5-2) , has me bewildered . We won a game (UGA) that most had us losing and lost a game( Vandy) that we shouldn’t have( I had 7 tough games going in…. At Wisconsin, UGA, at UT, Mizzou, at OK,ant LSU and AU … is that the reason everybody is jumping off a cliff? Media personalities are weighing in about whether KDB is the right coach at Bama after 7 games ? Is that what people want ? I can’t judge people on whether you are a million dollar donor or $20 a month Yea Alabama guy bc that is your money . I will say /go on record that I think KDB is a good/ great YOUNG coach who needs our support . Trying to run somebody off intentionally / unintentionally after 7 games and questioning EVERYTHING they do will not end well IMO. I hope everything works out but people are putting KDB in a very tough position. Hope he is tough enough to stick it out … 
This post was edited on 10/25/24 at 7:25 am
Posted on 10/24/24 at 9:20 pm to Syd
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The definition of a fair weather fan: It ok though, if that’s how you deal with it fine, but the people who do invest a lot won’t stop watching but will stop giving, there is a difference.
If you think that sort of label or name-calling bothers me in the least, I can only chuckle. I prefer to call it being a casual fan. Once upon a time I was pretty passionate about it but realized it just isn’t worth getting emotional about trivial things such as sporting events.
In any case, if I want to watch bad football I can turn on the TV on any random Sunday and probably see some of it then. But I don’t see many NFL teams getting 15 penalties per game, and players showing their arse on the field with insubordination toward the coach. If I am going to see that sort of stuff happening with Alabama football, it will be in Twitter posts sometime later as I puke and shake my head in disbelief at what a once-proud program has devolved into.
Knock yourself out watching live if you can enjoy it.
Posted on 10/24/24 at 9:39 pm to Bear88
The record isn’t really the issue. It’s the way in which the record happened. How the team carries itself and the embarrassing lack of discipline and pride. Alumni, founders, and donors generally don’t like those things. Me being one of them.
Posted on 10/24/24 at 10:02 pm to CrimsonBoz
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How the team carries itself and the embarrassing lack of discipline and pride. Alumni, founders, and donors generally don’t like those things. Me being one of them.
Fair enough. And maybe withdrawing support sends a message. But it can also backfire and put us in a position where we're doing this whole song and dance again in a year or two only with less talent when the players transfer and the recruiting class falls apart from lack of resources. And what decent coach is coming in to save the day when DeBoer lost support after 7 games?
Posted on 10/25/24 at 4:52 am to RollTide33
quote:Throw enough money at them one will. That’s always been true and always will be. Probably won’t be what is needed if that happens.
And what decent coach is coming in to save the day when DeBoer lost support after 7 games?
There are two problems the way I see it, and they’re just two sides of the same coin.
Social media wasn’t as prevalent even in 2007. If it had the impact we see today 95% of you would be screaming we need to run off this Saban guy after a loss to La Monroe.
You’d have been surrounding the AD’s house threatening to burn it down in 84 after Perkins lost to Vandy and we were 1-4 to start that season.
Too many are fricking lemmings that just need a few headed for the cliff and over you go no matter how stupid the idea is.
And the players are addicted to it as well. They want the popularity and prestige that social media provides without effort needed to produce a successful result. They start believing what that world tells them, because it becomes what they value rather than the work needed to be successful.
In the portal era (NIL is not the biggest problem), coaches are having to deal with egos they used to be able to run out of a guy. Now instead of gassers the players will just run to a new team. Who have a bunch of lemmings on social media talking about how great it will be for them there.
Almost nobody, and I mean especially on sports message boards is willing to take 5 minutes to stop and think. IMO it’s time a lot of you do.
Posted on 10/25/24 at 7:50 am to llfshoals
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Almost nobody, and I mean especially on sports message boards is willing to take 5 minutes to stop and think. IMO it’s time a lot of you do.
Just a few days ago: this Bama team was *insert supercar* and all CKD needed to do was just scream more at players and call better defensive plays. He just wasnt doing so because he was a nice pushover and he doesnt like winning.
Now: Locker room coup led by all the best players. They are leading coaches around like dogs on a leash, they are smoking weed and throwing parties instead of showing up to meetings on time and if coaches dont immediately throw out all the *rumored* coup players, the program will never recover!
The truth: Its a flawed team. If you just look at the defensive stats sheet, everyone will be shocked how many true freshman and sophomores are high up that list(thats not a good thing). The coach is dealing with the same exact issues that all new coaches that take over successful programs deal with. The current players arent playing for the coach that recruited them and they are hesitant to do things the new way.
The running backs arent very good, the QB is a bipolar mess. Bama was just a "supercar" bodykit with an underpowered, faulty engine that needs to be upgraded.
I think the best thing we can do as fans is support the coach, put away the pitchforks, bricks, and calls to Finebaum until we see what the coach can do with HIS players. If he wants to play a certain player, hes got a reason for doing so.
This post was edited on 10/25/24 at 7:54 am
Posted on 10/25/24 at 8:00 am to scottydoesntknow
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Bama was just a "supercar" bodykit with an underpowered, faulty engine that needs to be upgraded.
'But mah 5 stars ... don't you know this is one of the most talented teams in college football!!!"
Posted on 10/25/24 at 8:05 am to llfshoals
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In the portal era (NIL is not the biggest problem), coaches are having to deal with egos they used to be able to run out of a guy. Now instead of gassers the players will just run to a new team. Who have a bunch of lemmings on social media talking about how great it will be for them there.
People whose whole concept of football revolves around the high school coach who kicked their arse and made a man out of them back in 1970 are never going to have a frame of reference for this because they still think somebody, somewhere is going to come rescue the sport from all the changes of the last couple of the years.
There's going to have to be some type of getting back into equilibrium or the boosters are going to flee as has been noted here ... the fix is contractual, the players willingly give up some of their freedom of movement or they have to pay back some money ... but no "white knight" is going to ride to the rescue otherwise because the sports people and, especially, the fans aren't running this show, the federal courts are.
And they have jurisdiction because this is no longer just a sport, it's a jillion dollar business that involves intrastate commerce.
I got flamed here when I told people years ago to be careful what you wish for when you're poking out your chest and popping your buttons with bravado about all these big TV contracts, etc.
Posted on 10/25/24 at 8:08 am to scottydoesntknow
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Just a few days ago: this Bama team was *insert supercar* and all CKD needed to do was just scream more at players and call better defensive plays. He just wasnt doing so because he was a nice pushover and he doesnt like winning. Now: Locker room coup led by all the best players. They are leading coaches around like dogs on a leash, they are smoking weed and throwing parties instead of showing up to meetings on time and if coaches dont immediately throw out all the *rumored* coup players, the program will never recover! The truth: Its a flawed team. If you just look at the defensive stats sheet, everyone will be shocked how many true freshman and sophomores are high up that list(thats not a good thing). The coach is dealing with the same exact issues that all new coaches that take over successful programs deal with. The current players arent playing for the coach that recruited them and they are hesitant to do things the new way. The running backs arent very good, the QB is a bipolar mess. Bama was just a "supercar" bodykit with an underpowered, faulty engine that needs to be upgraded. I think the best thing we can do as fans is support the coach, put away the pitchforks, bricks, and calls to Finebaum until we see what the coach can do with HIS players. If he wants to play a certain player, hes got a reason for doing so.
Sorry, but that's just not true. I would MUCH rather have the coaches play even younger guys across the board and lose every game, if it means laying a foundation of discipline and consistency for the future. It's the sickening amount of penalties, stupid showboating after every play (ahead or behind) and ESPECIALLY the type of behavior shown by Moore at the end of the Vandy game that bothers me most.
If you think I am the only one who hates it, scroll up and read Boz's latest post above. That sums it up for me. If this stuff is what is going to define this era of Alabama football, the rest of you can have it. Meanwhile, I'm gonna enjoy my fishing trip tomorrow.
Posted on 10/25/24 at 8:27 am to dominantD
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If you think I am the only one who hates it, scroll up and read Boz's latest post above. That sums it up for me. If this stuff is what is going to define this era of Alabama football, the rest of you can have it. Meanwhile, I'm gonna enjoy my fishing trip tomorrow.
Yessir... catch a bunch!
(I will be watching tomorrow... but never in my life have I contemplated giving this up like I am this season)
Posted on 10/25/24 at 8:29 am to dominantD
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Sorry, but that's just not true. I would MUCH rather have the coaches play even younger guys across the board and lose every game, if it means laying a foundation of discipline and consistency for the future. It's the sickening amount of penalties, stupid showboating after every play (ahead or behind) and ESPECIALLY the type of behavior shown by Moore at the end of the Vandy game that bothers me most.
Exactly this for me too. I can take losing as I'm a 90's kid that remembers losing streaks to Tennessee, AU, and LSU and how TN and AU fans would gloat all the time up here in North Alabama. I just want to see us not shoot ourselves in the foot every single game and play with discipline. It's sad when I know that every big play we make is going to be for naught with a personal foul penalty. I'm losing count of how many touchdowns have been called back over the last few years due to penalties. I'm not saying we have to be perfect, because nobody or team is or ever will be but for frick sake take some ownership and pride in how you play.
Posted on 10/25/24 at 8:57 am to Pastor Mike
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(I will be watching tomorrow... but never in my life have I contemplated giving this up like I am this season)
It's not just what is happening at Alabama that's driving me away. It's this new era of collegiate athletics in general. with NIL and the portal the way it is, you have a situation like professional sports but with no limits on free agency or salary caps. It truly is like the inmates running the asylum. Saban saw it coming, and I don't think there is really anything that can be done at this point to truly rein it in and limit it. And think about it, the way things are going "politically", this trend is likely to continue.
For me, it's just not fun anymore.
Posted on 10/25/24 at 9:06 am to Bear88
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What is the reason ? 5-2 record?
Oh I dunno, losing to EFFING VANDERBILT might be a reason.
Posted on 10/25/24 at 9:18 am to cdur86
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Exactly this for me too. I can take losing as I'm a 90's kid that remembers losing streaks to Tennessee, AU, and LSU and how TN and AU fans would gloat all the time up here in North Alabama. I just want to see us not shoot ourselves in the foot every single game and play with discipline. It's sad when I know that every big play we make is going to be for naught with a personal foul penalty. I'm losing count of how many touchdowns have been called back over the last few years due to penalties. I'm not saying we have to be perfect, because nobody or team is or ever will be but for frick sake take some ownership and pride in how you play.
Thats fine, as long as we arent pretending this is an exclusive CKD problem. Its been going on at Bama for years now
Posted on 10/25/24 at 9:20 am to TiderNAL
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quote:What is the reason ? 5-2 record? Oh I dunno, losing to EFFING VANDERBILT might be a reason.
You mean the ranked Vanderbilt that is an average FG kicker away from being undefeated?
Posted on 10/25/24 at 9:23 am to scottydoesntknow
They only needed a good FG kicker to beat Jawja State?
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