InkStainedWretch

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That's where the lower class mindset/trash culture come into play. For those removed from it, it doesn't make sense. However, the culture has been built, in may ways, to specifically reject the culture of the people, " the upper spectral end, where 80%+ of US millionaires are new self generated money", as you stated. They reject education, they reject what we consider class, they reject the social norms and mores of "civilized" society. That's the point, as they're separating themselves intentionally from that class of people. A couple generations of economic malaise + bad decisions + promoting this culture and that's all it takes until it's institutional. The REAL shocking thing is where the US ranks if you remove this population from the various international competitions (math, violent crime, literacy, etc.)

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Much of what you post is accurate and makes sense from an economic standpoint, as harsh as the message is to some folks. But … and correct me if I’m wrong and I will apologize if I’m wrong … it strikes me that you seem to have a contempt for the people who made up the old-school manufacturing base during the halcyon days because they didn’t make the decisions they should have made.

You have got to already possess a skill to get your foot in the door in manufacturing today. Unskilled workers are going to have a tough row to hoe even if new plants are built on every street corner, because nobody is going to take the time to train anyone on the job. That’s the difference between then and now. A strong back and a work ethic aren’t enough. It’s critical that the stigma against tech training, that it’s somehow lesser or inferior to college, go away.

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This is the problem with the "halcyon factory" class, who, when presented with a changing economy and need for adaptation, refused and complained their easy, overpaid factory jobs were gone.

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Your last part is hyperbole I guess from the heat of this debate, because my daddy worked in manufacturing for nearly 40 years and I can assure you his job was not easy and given that he could've got killed at any point in time while he was working, by no means overpaid.

But the folks who are flaming you and will probably flame me, but that's all right, don't understand that when these new manufacturing plants open here, the majority of the manufacturing that is going to be done is going to be automated and robotic and will not require the involvement of as many human beings as there were in the halcyon days of manufacturing. People are going to have to have some level of post-secondary training ... not college but at least a six-month certificate ... to get their foot in the door, and that door will be closed to anyone who can only offer a high school diploma, a strong back and a good work ethic.

And there is nothing Donald Trump or Joe Biden or Xi Jiping or any human being walking this planet can do about it because that world doesn't exist anymore and it's not just because of globalization, it's because of technological advancement and that's a genie that cannot be put back into the lamp.

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What's worse, they STILL don't have a plan. It's like the Wild West out there. I agree that things are probably going to get much, much worse before this entire house of cards comes tumbling down.

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What they, and some fans, have got to get over is the notion of athletes being treated as "employees of the university."

f you don't want to use that word, then make up some other phony baloney word to call them. But understand the reality that because of these court decisions, no "fix" is going to be imposed on anyone by any university officials, coaches or some bad-arse commissioner riding in to save the day.

The reason it's not a Wild West in the NFL, etc., is because players through a process of negotiation have agreed to surrender some of their rights for the collective good of the sport. That is what has got to happen here, because what was isn't coming back.

Him not getting at least an Oscar nomination for Doc Holliday in Tombstone is the biggest injustice ever perpetrated by the voters of the Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences.

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This is going to be interesting for us going forward. We live in one of the poorest states in the union and have that population divided between two universities. We have a national brand and haven’t had to pay any significant buyout money in years. We also don’t have any single multi-billionaire athletics donor and the general fan base gets offended and riled up at the idea of them supporting NiL in even a small way. I’m hoping revenue sharing comes soon or OSU, the Texas schools and Michigan are going to turn this into Major League Baseball

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Ominous but gospel truth.

I am on record that I think the initial PED guys, with the exception of Palmeiro who is still pissing on people’s legs and telling them it’s raining, should finally be allowed into Cooperstown because everyone knew what was going on back then, including the fans, and looked the other way.

Now that people aren’t looking the other way, and eyes are constantly watching, I have zero sympathy for anyone who gets caught and they should be hammered. I know they are just looking for a competitive edge but I don’t care. They can’t do it, period.

I wish people would quit falling for clickbait from these yahoos and maybe they would go away.

Congrats Tigers :cheers: … y’all are a tough bunch, gonna be a war with the Gators but that’s how it should be at this point.

Then it's an absolute, complete nothing burger from someone who hates college sports.