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re: The O debate….

Posted by Tiger Phil on 12/6/25 at 9:05 pm to
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Ed Orgeron betrayed LSU
How?


By willfully not doing his best at the job. He knew the requirements of the job yet chose to fall short. It’s not like Curly Hallman (or Billy Napier or even Tom Herman), who honestly tried his best, but was just overmatched for the job.

That is betrayal.

re: The O debate….

Posted by Tiger Phil on 12/6/25 at 7:37 pm to
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I mean, what do you want him to do? He got fired. It still sucks. He was just making light of things. He said he didn't meet expectations and he understood the expectations and LSU's decision. He said he did as much as he could do and it was time for someone else to take over. I agreed with everything he said.


I would very much like him to show remorse in having failed at his job, not laugh off his dereliction of duty, when as a native Louisianan he should know how much LSU football means. Have an ounce of class, and maybe apologize for his shortcoming.

But that’s just me. No, wait, that is the vast majority of LSU fans and alumni.

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He didn't betray LSU and has only spoken highly of the university. Quit being a pussy.


The line that comes to mind is “what you’re doing speaks so loudly I can’t hear what you’re saying.” His words are meaningless.
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Salviati


This is brilliant. Thank you for edifying us all.

I regret that I have but one upvote to give.

re: The O debate….

Posted by Tiger Phil on 12/6/25 at 5:06 pm to
No, his betrayal was twofold

1) did not give his best effort to the job after the 2019 season.

2) worse, he laughs about receiving notice of the firing and buyout, painting it as though he was “winning” in this situation.

He has no place here. The end.

re: The O debate….

Posted by Tiger Phil on 12/6/25 at 5:01 pm to
He can do whatever he wants for whomever else he wants. LSU will prevail no matter what he decides to do.

Ed Orgeron betrayed LSU and deserves to receive nothing in material compensation from us for the rest of his natural life.
I will repeat my sentiment from earlier. Ed Orgeron betrayed our university by giving less than his best and then laughed about his buyout on a televised interview. He should never work here again under any capacity.

The end.
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Whoever is donating it should instead be doing public works projects with the money, revitalizing neighborhoods and selling the homes cheaply to hardworking young families, sponsoring families, etc Now downvote away.


This is a false dichotomy. If they wanted to do that, they would be doing so as well. And no longer donating to LSU football would usually mean that those rich people have more money for themselves - not more money to give away.
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Why wouldn’t he? Dude loves LSU and fumbled the greatest opportunity of his life. A motivated Ed O would me be a recruiting menace


I seriously can’t believe any of us think this. Ed O DOES NOT LOVE LSU.. He purposefully and intentionally put himself, his ego, his laziness and his desires ahead of LSU. And then laughed about it. He has no business on an LSU sideline.
I am of the opinion that Coach O should only ever be invited back to LSU if it is to celebrate the 2019 team. He should never work for us again. He betrayed us the last time! Honestly, if I were Verge, I would tell Lane that the only constraint that I will put on your coaching hires is that you may not hire Coach O. And on this hill I will die.

re: Why Kiffin comes to LSU

Posted by Tiger Phil on 10/28/25 at 12:54 pm to
2 huge points on Kiffin

1) He has publicly stated (on McAfee’s show) that money is not his motivator. Said that Sexton HATES it when he says it, but he is not concerned about the money.

2) He knows that Kiffin at LSU has an easier route to the playoffs than does Kiffin at Ole Miss, in part because LSU and Ole Miss play each other every year. He likely assumes that the coach that LSU will hire will be a quality coach ahead a quality program, while the coach that Ole Miss would hire, should he leave, will be of lessor quality and will lead a lessor program. Therefore, if he is on the LSU side, the Ole Miss side is weaker, than if he remains on the Ole Miss said against a strong LSU.
If you assume that LSU will be a good, perhaps great team with any coach and that Ole Miss will fall off after Lane leaves, then by him taking the LSU job he minimizes his annual competition. Lane at Ole Miss vs LSU will always be a battle. Lane and LSU vs Ole Miss could be a mismatch.
Correct.

My proposal:

$8 million per year for 5 years, 75% guaranteed (so $30 million guaranteed)
But load it with incentives:
* $1 Million qualify for SEC CG
* $1 Million win the SEC CG
* $2 Million qualify for the playoffs
* $1 Million for each playoff round won (or $1 million additional for earning first round bye). 12/8/4/2 - possible to earn $4 million here
* $3 Million win the national championship

So in a NC year, coach would earn up to $19 million

Additionally, any year in which he wins at least 10 games, contract is automatically guaranteed for the next 5 years
Additionally, any year in which he wins the SEC, the base pay goes up $1 Million; should he win the natty, base pay goes up $2 million
That’s the point. You aren’t being cheap. If he is who he says he is, then he makes on level with or far more than his peers. If he does not deliver, he bears more of the responsibility.
I think his base is too low, but the concept is valid. Make the incentives such that he would outstep any other coach in football by a large margin. More risk for LSU but with greater reward.

You can’t just say, F this, we are only paying 5 mil over 5 years. You have to sweeten the pot somehow
Agreed. This proposal would see the potential coach earn more than any of his peers should he meet our goals and his, and provide opportunity for long term security due to continued success.
Someone who is not currently making 10 million per year
Had we had Kelly under these terms, we would have been in year 2 of his current renewed 5 year contract and would have only owed him $18 for the remaining 3 years
well I’m really smart and good at typing so it didn’t take much effort.