Tiger Phil
| Favorite team: | LSU |
| Location: | I see burnt orange everywhere |
| Biography: | LSU fan since 1990, when I started school |
| Interests: | Young Life |
| Occupation: | HS Coach and Teacher |
| Number of Posts: | 1668 |
| Registered on: | 11/20/2007 |
| Online Status: | Not Online |
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re: The O debate….
Posted by Tiger Phil on 12/6/25 at 9:05 pm to Missouri Waltz
quote:quote:How?
Ed Orgeron betrayed LSU
By willfully not doing his best at the job. He knew the requirements of the job yet chose to fall short. It’s not like Curly Hallman (or Billy Napier or even Tom Herman), who honestly tried his best, but was just overmatched for the job.
That is betrayal.
re: The O debate….
Posted by Tiger Phil on 12/6/25 at 7:37 pm to blacroix
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I mean, what do you want him to do? He got fired. It still sucks. He was just making light of things. He said he didn't meet expectations and he understood the expectations and LSU's decision. He said he did as much as he could do and it was time for someone else to take over. I agreed with everything he said.
I would very much like him to show remorse in having failed at his job, not laugh off his dereliction of duty, when as a native Louisianan he should know how much LSU football means. Have an ounce of class, and maybe apologize for his shortcoming.
But that’s just me. No, wait, that is the vast majority of LSU fans and alumni.
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He didn't betray LSU and has only spoken highly of the university. Quit being a pussy.
The line that comes to mind is “what you’re doing speaks so loudly I can’t hear what you’re saying.” His words are meaningless.
re: Just wondering if you would want Coach O as an assistant coach???
Posted by Tiger Phil on 12/6/25 at 6:02 pm to Salviati
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Salviati
This is brilliant. Thank you for edifying us all.
I regret that I have but one upvote to give.
re: The O debate….
Posted by Tiger Phil on 12/6/25 at 5:06 pm to geauxcoco
No, his betrayal was twofold
1) did not give his best effort to the job after the 2019 season.
2) worse, he laughs about receiving notice of the firing and buyout, painting it as though he was “winning” in this situation.
He has no place here. The end.
1) did not give his best effort to the job after the 2019 season.
2) worse, he laughs about receiving notice of the firing and buyout, painting it as though he was “winning” in this situation.
He has no place here. The end.
re: The O debate….
Posted by Tiger Phil on 12/6/25 at 5:01 pm to geauxcoco
He can do whatever he wants for whomever else he wants. LSU will prevail no matter what he decides to do.
Ed Orgeron betrayed LSU and deserves to receive nothing in material compensation from us for the rest of his natural life.
Ed Orgeron betrayed LSU and deserves to receive nothing in material compensation from us for the rest of his natural life.
re: Just wondering if you would want Coach O as an assistant coach???
Posted by Tiger Phil on 12/6/25 at 4:52 pm to KajunTiger
re: So where exactly would Orgeron fit in with this staff? Recruiting coordinator?
Posted by Tiger Phil on 12/6/25 at 2:15 pm to sicboy
I will repeat my sentiment from earlier. Ed Orgeron betrayed our university by giving less than his best and then laughed about his buyout on a televised interview. He should never work here again under any capacity.
The end.
The end.
re: Yall Remember When that one radio personality said
Posted by Tiger Phil on 11/27/25 at 9:19 am to Earnest_P
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Whoever is donating it should instead be doing public works projects with the money, revitalizing neighborhoods and selling the homes cheaply to hardworking young families, sponsoring families, etc Now downvote away.
This is a false dichotomy. If they wanted to do that, they would be doing so as well. And no longer donating to LSU football would usually mean that those rich people have more money for themselves - not more money to give away.
re: Is Ed O really capable of swallowing his pride?
Posted by Tiger Phil on 11/22/25 at 5:59 pm to Queen City Tiger
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Why wouldn’t he? Dude loves LSU and fumbled the greatest opportunity of his life. A motivated Ed O would me be a recruiting menace
I seriously can’t believe any of us think this. Ed O DOES NOT LOVE LSU.. He purposefully and intentionally put himself, his ego, his laziness and his desires ahead of LSU. And then laughed about it. He has no business on an LSU sideline.
re: Is Ed O really capable of swallowing his pride?
Posted by Tiger Phil on 11/22/25 at 5:55 pm to Crappieman
I am of the opinion that Coach O should only ever be invited back to LSU if it is to celebrate the 2019 team. He should never work for us again. He betrayed us the last time! Honestly, if I were Verge, I would tell Lane that the only constraint that I will put on your coaching hires is that you may not hire Coach O. And on this hill I will die.
re: Why Kiffin comes to LSU
Posted by Tiger Phil on 10/28/25 at 12:54 pm to Sev09
2 huge points on Kiffin
1) He has publicly stated (on McAfee’s show) that money is not his motivator. Said that Sexton HATES it when he says it, but he is not concerned about the money.
2) He knows that Kiffin at LSU has an easier route to the playoffs than does Kiffin at Ole Miss, in part because LSU and Ole Miss play each other every year. He likely assumes that the coach that LSU will hire will be a quality coach ahead a quality program, while the coach that Ole Miss would hire, should he leave, will be of lessor quality and will lead a lessor program. Therefore, if he is on the LSU side, the Ole Miss side is weaker, than if he remains on the Ole Miss said against a strong LSU.
1) He has publicly stated (on McAfee’s show) that money is not his motivator. Said that Sexton HATES it when he says it, but he is not concerned about the money.
2) He knows that Kiffin at LSU has an easier route to the playoffs than does Kiffin at Ole Miss, in part because LSU and Ole Miss play each other every year. He likely assumes that the coach that LSU will hire will be a quality coach ahead a quality program, while the coach that Ole Miss would hire, should he leave, will be of lessor quality and will lead a lessor program. Therefore, if he is on the LSU side, the Ole Miss side is weaker, than if he remains on the Ole Miss said against a strong LSU.
re: Why would Kiffin leave Ole Miss for LSU?
Posted by Tiger Phil on 10/26/25 at 8:52 pm to Scoob
If you assume that LSU will be a good, perhaps great team with any coach and that Ole Miss will fall off after Lane leaves, then by him taking the LSU job he minimizes his annual competition. Lane at Ole Miss vs LSU will always be a battle. Lane and LSU vs Ole Miss could be a mismatch.
re: Young up and comer - base salary in the bottom half of SEC coaches and fat incentives
Posted by Tiger Phil on 10/26/25 at 4:25 pm to Lester Earl
Correct.
My proposal:
$8 million per year for 5 years, 75% guaranteed (so $30 million guaranteed)
But load it with incentives:
* $1 Million qualify for SEC CG
* $1 Million win the SEC CG
* $2 Million qualify for the playoffs
* $1 Million for each playoff round won (or $1 million additional for earning first round bye). 12/8/4/2 - possible to earn $4 million here
* $3 Million win the national championship
So in a NC year, coach would earn up to $19 million
Additionally, any year in which he wins at least 10 games, contract is automatically guaranteed for the next 5 years
Additionally, any year in which he wins the SEC, the base pay goes up $1 Million; should he win the natty, base pay goes up $2 million
My proposal:
$8 million per year for 5 years, 75% guaranteed (so $30 million guaranteed)
But load it with incentives:
* $1 Million qualify for SEC CG
* $1 Million win the SEC CG
* $2 Million qualify for the playoffs
* $1 Million for each playoff round won (or $1 million additional for earning first round bye). 12/8/4/2 - possible to earn $4 million here
* $3 Million win the national championship
So in a NC year, coach would earn up to $19 million
Additionally, any year in which he wins at least 10 games, contract is automatically guaranteed for the next 5 years
Additionally, any year in which he wins the SEC, the base pay goes up $1 Million; should he win the natty, base pay goes up $2 million
re: Young up and comer - base salary in the bottom half of SEC coaches and fat incentives
Posted by Tiger Phil on 10/26/25 at 4:16 pm to Tiger Phil
BTW
Mike Elko is making $7 million per year. For 6 years.
Mike Elko is making $7 million per year. For 6 years.
re: Young up and comer - base salary in the bottom half of SEC coaches and fat incentives
Posted by Tiger Phil on 10/26/25 at 4:15 pm to Lester Earl
That’s the point. You aren’t being cheap. If he is who he says he is, then he makes on level with or far more than his peers. If he does not deliver, he bears more of the responsibility.
re: Young up and comer - base salary in the bottom half of SEC coaches and fat incentives
Posted by Tiger Phil on 10/26/25 at 4:03 pm to Lester Earl
I think his base is too low, but the concept is valid. Make the incentives such that he would outstep any other coach in football by a large margin. More risk for LSU but with greater reward.
You can’t just say, F this, we are only paying 5 mil over 5 years. You have to sweeten the pot somehow
You can’t just say, F this, we are only paying 5 mil over 5 years. You have to sweeten the pot somehow
re: My proposal: $8 mil/year with incentives; 5 year initial guarantee
Posted by Tiger Phil on 10/26/25 at 3:50 pm to MintBerry Crunch
Agreed. This proposal would see the potential coach earn more than any of his peers should he meet our goals and his, and provide opportunity for long term security due to continued success.
re: My proposal: $8 mil/year with incentives; 5 year initial guarantee
Posted by Tiger Phil on 10/26/25 at 3:37 pm to SidewalkTiger
Someone who is not currently making 10 million per year
re: My proposal: $8 mil/year with incentives; 5 year initial guarantee
Posted by Tiger Phil on 10/26/25 at 3:34 pm to John Casey
Had we had Kelly under these terms, we would have been in year 2 of his current renewed 5 year contract and would have only owed him $18 for the remaining 3 years
re: Young up and comer - base salary in the bottom half of SEC coaches and fat incentives
Posted by Tiger Phil on 10/26/25 at 3:32 pm to Kreg Jennings
Careful they are going to ridicule you
re: My proposal: $8 mil/year with incentives; 5 year initial guarantee
Posted by Tiger Phil on 10/26/25 at 3:31 pm to biglego
well I’m really smart and good at typing so it didn’t take much effort.
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