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re: Non Alabama Mens college basketball thread
Posted by Sauron on 3/24/25 at 5:44 pm
Would we be interested in bringing Pringle back?
re: Class of 2026 Football Recruiting MEGATHREAD
Posted by Sauron on 2/12/25 at 3:07 pm
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If you would like to pretend that NIL would have no effect on where guys like Ingram, Julio, Hightower, Upshaw et al decided to play CFB if it had existed then, knock yourself out. I prefer not to live in fantasy land.
I have no dog in this fight, but ...
You do realize that your first sentence proposes a hypothetical situation that didn't exist and can't be proven, and your second sentence asserts that you live in a grounded reality.
The two scenarios are mutually exclusive.
re: Ryan Grubb is back at Alabama
Posted by Sauron on 2/4/25 at 4:42 pm
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Are we stuck in the mud or do we have a legitimate chance to be better and not just because Milroe is gone?
The notable departures on offense are:
- Jalen Milroe
- Justice Haynes
- Kendrick Law
- Robbie Ouzts
- CJ Dippre
- Elijah Pritchett
- Tyler Booker
We're returning three or four starters on the offensive line, one co-starter at running back (Jam Miller), and two wideouts (Ryan Williams and Germie Bernard).
I believe QB play will be better overall regardless of who starts. Having 60% (or 80%, depending on how you look at it) of the offensive line back is huge, specifically Brailsford at center. Wideouts likely will be improved with Williams and Bernard having another year in the system and the addition of transfer Isaiah Horton from Miami.
I think Grubb joining as OC is the best possible outcome from a coaching perspective. It's DeBoer's offense, but Grubb understands it inside and out and from many reports is better than Sheridan at scheming plays. And, honestly, Sheridan wasn't bad by any stretch in 2024 -- multiple people have talked about the open receivers that Jalen just didn't see almost every game.
I expect turnovers to go down compared to 2024. We may not be as explosive overall, but I think we'll be considerably more efficient.
re: Watching Keelon’s highlights I could see him starting.
Posted by Sauron on 1/30/25 at 3:02 pm
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5-10 for 71 yards that included the 43 yard prayer that should have been picked against Mercer doesnt scream great to me.
To be fair, Simpson was playing behind the second-string offensive line, throwing to Rico Scott, Caleb Odom, Jaren Hamilton, and others. One of his incompletions was dropped by Daniel Hill, one was dropped in the end zone (but was thrown into double coverage, so not a great decision), and another was thrown while he was flushed from the pocket and under pressure.
re: Watching Keelon’s highlights I could see him starting.
Posted by Sauron on 1/30/25 at 12:57 pm
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I just haven't seen anything from him that would lead to believe he would be very good, if not great. I think he will be a good QB, but is Alabama's roster around him good enough to be great as a unit?
I don't know that the offense has to be "great" to win a championship. I wouldn't characterize Michigan's offense last year as "great" -- they just did enough to win.
I freely admit I'm projecting my hopes on Simpson based on how he seemed to operate the offense in 2024. Not overly explosive, but seemingly less herky-jerky than the offense was when Milroe was the QB.
The closest analog in my mind was when Mac Jones was pressed into service for the last two games in 2019 after Tua got hurt vs. Mississippi State. Jones doesn't have the pure talent of Tua, and he got much of the blame for the Auburn loss, but even then you could see his ability. And in 2020 he showed what he could do.
I'm not saying Ty Simpson will have the equivalent of the Mac Jones 2020 campaign. I think it's possible, but I wouldn't bet any money on it.
However, I DO think he's going to be an upgrade at the QB position from a decision-making and processing standpoint, and that alone would make us much more efficient offensively.
re: Watching Keelon’s highlights I could see him starting.
Posted by Sauron on 1/30/25 at 11:33 am
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I'm not tied to anyone as far as who should be the starter. Simpson, Mack, Russell, some wild card ... after last year, I want THE BEST QUARTERBACK to have the job, period.
I agree completely. I like Simpson, because I think he's better than people give him credit for and I admire his loyalty, particularly in this day and age. But I want the best guy for the job.
My only fear is if we start Russell, we likely nuke our QB depth.
re: Watching Keelon’s highlights I could see him starting.
Posted by Sauron on 1/30/25 at 11:17 am
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will this offense work at its true potential with a "good quarterback who makes a great play occasionally?"
I'm gonna say "yes" (of course), but I'll have to defer to others to justify the answer.
I don't watch the SkyCast version of games, or other options where you see most of the field -- I just watch the broadcast version. Based on what others have said, though, there were multiple plays in basically every game where receivers were open, but Milroe didn't see them.
To my mind, a good quarterback can read the defense pre-snap, and can process the formation/movement shortly after the snap to know where his best receiving option should be. That's the mental and decision-making part of the game that (I think) Simpson does much better than Milroe. If Simpson can read those coverages and make the right decision with his throw, I think we'll be much better offensively.
Shoot, if we can just avoid having 3+ turnovers and/or several big negative-yardage sacks per game, I think we'll be much better.
Does that mean we'll be running DeBoer's offense at peak capacity? Probably not. But I think it should give us an excellent chance to win 90% or more of our games.
re: Watching Keelon’s highlights I could see him starting.
Posted by Sauron on 1/30/25 at 11:00 am
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I just disagree that Simpson has shown anything worthy of the confidence people have that he's going to light the CFB world on fire ...
I just also struggle rationalizing that Saban signed off on a freaking lacrosse player starting before Simpson at USF.
I've been a proponent of Simpson's for a couple of years now, so my view of the situation is likely biased. Just wanna be up-front about that.
I'm not sure anyone is saying Simpson will "light the CFB world on fire" if he starts. I guess It's possible he could have a Mac Jones type of year, which would be phenomenal ... but my expectation is he'll be a good QB who provides a great play occasionally. Which, frankly, would be a step in the right direction for us.
I don't think Simpson has been able to show everything he can do within the offense at this point. The biggest advantage he has over Milroe, in my opinion, is his ability to process a situation and make a quick decision. To my eyes, the offense just seemed to be more efficient and operate more smoothly with him vs. Milroe. There were far fewer explosive plays with Simpson, but there also seemed to be far fewer big busts. Admittedly, that's an uneducated feeling -- I don't have any stats to back that up. He just seemed to have a better understanding of the offense and where to go with the ball in general.
I'm not terribly concerned about Buchner getting the starting nod over Simpson in the 2023 USF game. I'd guess Rees made that recommendation to Saban rather than Saban doing an in-depth evaluation of the two and making the call himself. Since Rees was more familiar with Buchner, having coached him at Notre Dame, Buchner got the start.
re: Tide Football Thread in honor of TidalSurge
Posted by Sauron on 1/14/25 at 4:35 pm
Grubb joining the staff would be huge, in my opinion.
Is OL coach Scott Huff available? I can't remember if the Seahawks retained him.
Is OL coach Scott Huff available? I can't remember if the Seahawks retained him.
re: Non-Alabama CFB Discussion - Offseason Thread
Posted by Sauron on 1/9/25 at 1:56 pm
I wonder if Auburn/Freeze are kicking themselves for investing in Jackson Arnold?
re: Non-Alabama CFB Discussion - Offseason Thread
Posted by Sauron on 1/9/25 at 1:29 pm
Carson Beck has entered the transfer portal. I think he has one year of eligibility remaining.
re: Alabama Football Roster Tracker (as of 1/8/25)
Posted by Sauron on 1/9/25 at 8:26 am
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I may have missed it but any word on D Jackson?
Domani Jackson has announced he's coming back.
re: Do you think it’s different at Bama for DeBoer in terms of player attitude?
Posted by Sauron on 1/8/25 at 12:03 pm
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Washington is number 17 in all time wins and has two national championships, 43 bowl appearances, and three playoff games. Remember that Alabama played Washington and were huge underdogs in the Tide's first Rose Bowl.
Oh, I know -- the line in the fight song "Remember the Rose Bowl, we'll win then" refers to that 1926 game. But it's the only interpretation that makes sense given collegefootballisbroken's original statement:
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No, not saying it’s a DeBoer thing. I’m saying because of the lack of success at Washington I’m sure his players didn’t have that attitude.
Since DeBoer went 25-3 at Washington, including getting to the CFP Championship Game and winning the most games in a season in the program's history, saying he had "a lack of success at Washington" doesn't fit the facts.
re: Grubb fired.
Posted by Sauron on 1/7/25 at 10:13 am
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The pressure is on the opposing offenses as well. Long drives must end in TDs. If you run 25 minutes off the clock on 2 drives and kick 2 FGs you can be beaten by one play.
I don't disagree with this at all. A coach electing the ball-control option for his offense has to be completely confident in his team's ability to execute and not make mistakes. It's like investing in bonds vs. stocks -- it's a low-risk and usually a low-reward approach, but it pays dividends.
The coach also has to bank on his defense being able to get stops or turnovers. Unfortunately for us, Alabama was Jekyll-and-Hyde offensively this year. Even a small improvement in offensive consistency would have had us at worst 11-1 at the end of the regular season.
re: Do you think it’s different at Bama for DeBoer in terms of player attitude?
Posted by Sauron on 1/7/25 at 10:02 am
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lack of success at Washington
The frick?
I suspect he meant the lack of historical success at Washington, not Coach DeBoer's success specifically.
re: Grubb fired.
Posted by Sauron on 1/7/25 at 8:37 am
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No coach we hire is going to "run the bawl Pawll and 'make their asses quit'"
I'm not sure that's 100% accurate. Two teams with significantly less talent beat us this year by running the ball consistently, controlling the clock, and taking advantage of our turnovers. With the relatively new clock rules, teams are getting fewer possessions overall. Controlling the clock and limiting turnovers have increased in importance compared to explosive plays.
I'm not saying explosive plays aren't important, but when you can bleed more than five minutes off the clock just by getting one first down and eat up half a quarter with two first downs, you're putting tremendous pressure on the opposing offense to be very efficient when they have the ball.
re: 2025 Alabama Assistant Coach Thread (Grubb Watch)
Posted by Sauron on 1/3/25 at 2:17 pm
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Okay and now because he has rolled out the pocket he has a run lane ...
We should have moved the pocket as much as we could and even used misdirection in how we did it to throw off their rush.
On WJOX yesterday, Greg McElroy (I think) said Milroe had issues with accuracy when he rolled out -- even more so than when he stayed in the pocket. I believe he said his throwing mechanics, which weren't great to start with, got even more messed up on the move. For that reason we didn't have a lot of designed rollouts in the playbook.
I can recall a few passes this year that Jalen completed on the move, but I don't remember any that were really on target. Maybe there were some and I've forgotten them, but in general if he was scrambling or moving around the receiver had to make a significant adjustment to catch the ball.
re: What happened to our program?
Posted by Sauron on 1/2/25 at 11:06 am
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1. Our coach is soft. He let a player tell him no on national tv.
I agree this was one of the low points of DeBoer's early tenure.
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3. If Sark can take his paid high draft prospective qb off the field and put a freshman on it because his qb wasn't playing well any coach can. Quit giving me that shite.
Sark is going into his fifth year as the head coach of Texas, and he had his team in the semifinals last year. Texas is fully his team -- he recruited all the players. He's earned the right to make those calls in the NIL era.
DeBoer, who I think is a very good coach, was in his first year at a perennial power with a very unstable roster. Making significant changes could have been a disaster.
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4. None of our loses were to good teams, this was an underperforming team led by coaches that didn't game plan and couldn't adjust. The same plan we used against OU was the same game plan we used against Michigan.
This also was one of the most concerning issues with DeBoer's first year. While none of the losses were acceptable, Oklahoma in particular and Michigan were the most puzzling and unforeseen. Until the Michigan game, we'd seen our offense come out on fire after a bye week.
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5. In the NFL a coach took his number 1 draft pick qb and replaced him with the back up. And it helped the #1 draft pick.
In the NFL players are bound by contracts with teams. That's not the case in college.
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If you don't see issues with our development, our recruiting, our coaching not sure what to tell you.
Kalen DeBoer hasn't been our head coach for a full year yet. I'd say give him some time to adjust to the situation -- which, frankly, was unprecedented in major college football. And if you have issues with his recruiting, after having just signed one of the top two or three classes in the nation, then frankly I don't know what to tell YOU.
re: Greg McElroy/Cole Cubelic on the bowl game
Posted by Sauron on 1/2/25 at 10:50 am
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You are telling me that players who dream of playing in the NFL would tank their own performance to keep their preferred qb as the starter? I call BS. Poor qb play makes all other positions on offense look bad…O line, receivers, RBs, etc.
I freely admit I'm guessing here (and GMac may be guessing as well, I dunno). But I wouldn't discount the things people will do for loyalty, even if it seems to contradict what's in their own best self-interest. Particularly when the people in question are in their late teens and early 20s.
Nick Saban kept Pete Golding as his defensive coordinator or co-DC for five years, despite a general statistical decline in our defensive proficiency during that same time.
re: Greg McElroy/Cole Cubelic on the bowl game
Posted by Sauron on 1/2/25 at 9:27 am
I'm going to put my own finer point on the supposed loyalty to Milroe: I think it was centered on the offensive line specifically.
This is my own interpretation, and I could very well be wrong, but I suspect they (or the upperclassmen on the line) were the main Milroe supporters. The skill players may have been part of the club at the beginning of the year, but the body language and reactions from them in the second half of the year seemed to indicate frustration and irritation at multiple times.
I wonder if Jalen is one of those practice-field and film-room warriors who do everything right all week long, but go into a rapid downward spiral in a game when things don't go well. If I'm a coach, I'm gonna be hesitant to make a change, even after a debilitating loss, if the guy looks like a world-beater at practice the following week, and is correcting the mistakes he made on game day.
This is my own interpretation, and I could very well be wrong, but I suspect they (or the upperclassmen on the line) were the main Milroe supporters. The skill players may have been part of the club at the beginning of the year, but the body language and reactions from them in the second half of the year seemed to indicate frustration and irritation at multiple times.
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Okay, but they weren't concerned about a repeat of the Tennessee game, the South Carolina game, the Auburn game, or the Arkansas game from last year?
I wonder if Jalen is one of those practice-field and film-room warriors who do everything right all week long, but go into a rapid downward spiral in a game when things don't go well. If I'm a coach, I'm gonna be hesitant to make a change, even after a debilitating loss, if the guy looks like a world-beater at practice the following week, and is correcting the mistakes he made on game day.
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