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Unintended consequence of the NIL/Collective era - Facilities
Posted on 4/24/25 at 10:31 am
Posted on 4/24/25 at 10:31 am
I've heard a couple of stories from schools who had to shelve facilities upgrades because they only have so many donors to hit up for funding and right now, they need all of those boosters directing their money to players.
For as long as we can remember, schools especially in the SEC have been involved in an impressive "arms race" to see who can have the biggest, best, shiniest, most technologically advanced facilities. And now, schools are having to make a choice between staying current with the latest facilities, and paying for a roster.
For as long as we can remember, schools especially in the SEC have been involved in an impressive "arms race" to see who can have the biggest, best, shiniest, most technologically advanced facilities. And now, schools are having to make a choice between staying current with the latest facilities, and paying for a roster.
Posted on 4/24/25 at 10:39 am to BenHOGan1
Honestly the whole facilities arms race was getting out of hand.
A lot of top programs facilities are now nicer than NFL programs.
Not every 18 year old needs Xboxes and massaging seats in their locker. They are there to play football.
A lot of top programs facilities are now nicer than NFL programs.
Not every 18 year old needs Xboxes and massaging seats in their locker. They are there to play football.
Posted on 4/24/25 at 10:46 am to BenHOGan1
Who knows where NIL will end up (House settlement might be a drastic change, but then again, that could blow up). But, one thing that I don't believe will change is that NIL will not be considered a charitable contribution, so, if you can't claim it as an advertising expense, spending on NIL will not provide the same tax benefit that contributing to facilities will. The other aspect of that is, if you're going to give millions of dollars, a lot of folks want something tangible with their name on it that will be around for a while, whereas NIL is mostly done behind closed doors and is ephemeral--it's gone as soon as you write the check.
Posted on 4/24/25 at 10:51 am to BenHOGan1
LSU is about to build a new arena. As far as facilities go, besides the arena it would be nice if Alex box got the upgrades it deserves. I’m not sure how inclined LSU is to drop 100 mill to spruce the box up when our NIL is as strong as it currently is.
Tiger Stadium just needs better concessions
would love to renovate the lower bowl but not remotely as necessary as upgrading the box.
With that said I haven’t heard a word around LSU in a few years since NIL kicked off
Tiger Stadium just needs better concessions

With that said I haven’t heard a word around LSU in a few years since NIL kicked off

Posted on 4/24/25 at 11:00 am to BenHOGan1
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I've heard a couple of stories from schools who had to shelve facilities upgrades because they only have so many donors to hit up for funding and right now, they need all of those boosters directing their money to players.
For as long as we can remember, schools especially in the SEC have been involved in an impressive "arms race" to see who can have the biggest, best, shiniest, most technologically advanced facilities. And now, schools are having to make a choice between staying current with the latest facilities and paying for a roster.
Yep, and once the Supreme Court settlement finally comes down, the P4 schools are going to be hit with an additional $20 million in additional costs that they will have to pay out to the athletes in all sports. Most schools simply do not have an endless supply of money to cover these new costs AND continue investing in facilities.
Posted on 4/24/25 at 11:02 am to BenHOGan1
the current pay for play that we have now is unsustainable
Posted on 4/24/25 at 11:03 am to BenHOGan1
We've started a $250 million renovation to Faurot. Maybe we're siphoning cash from the baseball NIL? Yep, that's it. That's gotta be why our baseball is so bad.
Posted on 4/24/25 at 11:06 am to BenHOGan1
The reason you could have a facilities arm race to begin with was that you had players playing for peanuts. Only makes sense that when you jack up the cost of doing business that somethings are going to be on the chopping block. I predict the next thing to go will be the massive coaching contract buyouts.
Posted on 4/24/25 at 11:08 am to ukraine_rebel
LSU new arena involves city so it doesn't fall all on LSU
Athletic Departments are about to tie up $20 million in players, cuts will have to come from somewhere, either facilities or shedding salaries of employees
Athletic Departments are about to tie up $20 million in players, cuts will have to come from somewhere, either facilities or shedding salaries of employees
Posted on 4/24/25 at 11:12 am to BenHOGan1
Most SEC teams are pretty stacked. All of the contenders have pretty much maxed that out. UF came in late, but gassed it by most schools.
Posted on 4/24/25 at 11:15 am to nicholastiger
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Athletic Departments are about to tie up $20 million in players, cuts will have to come from somewhere, either facilities or shedding salaries of employees
To make up the difference, it will probably be both that get cuts. I expect to see positions within AD's eliminated and a lot of their work passed on to those they decide to keep. I also expect to see a sizeable adjustment (downward) in capital project budgets for a lot of universities.
Posted on 4/24/25 at 11:15 am to BenHOGan1
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I've heard a couple of stories from schools who had to shelve facilities upgrades because they only have so many donors to hit up for funding and right now, they need all of those boosters directing their money to players.
And COVID has wrecked the economy. Building an outhouse would require major financing.
The biggest problem going forward is the speed at which these player auctions are escalating. We have a 4-year sample size, and out-of-control bidding has put most of the leverage with players. 18-year-old millionaires are about to run college football into the poorhouse. Take just a moment to grasp that reality.
Posted on 4/24/25 at 11:17 am to BenHOGan1
If I were a player, I'd take adequate facilities without the frills and more cash. The need to teach these kids how to manage money. Some can build life changing wealth if they take care of business.
I think we should focus on a program that helps the athletes with this and the future. Get Stephens to help them invest. Teach them how to market themselves and get real NIL deals and set themselves up for life. Many won't appreciate it, but down the line it'll pay dividends if our former players are much more successful in life than anyone else's. Play the long game. We've already lost the short game.
I think we should focus on a program that helps the athletes with this and the future. Get Stephens to help them invest. Teach them how to market themselves and get real NIL deals and set themselves up for life. Many won't appreciate it, but down the line it'll pay dividends if our former players are much more successful in life than anyone else's. Play the long game. We've already lost the short game.
Posted on 4/24/25 at 11:29 am to twk
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The other aspect of that is, if you're going to give millions of dollars, a lot of folks want something tangible with their name on it that will be around for a while, whereas NIL is mostly done behind closed doors and is ephemeral--it's gone as soon as you write the check.
What’s to say you can’t get your name or likeness, or your company name tattooed on the thigh of that freshman point guard, or forehead of that flashy QB?
Posted on 4/24/25 at 12:17 pm to BenHOGan1
It does seem like the programs that upgraded prior to NiL will have the advantage with facilities, but on the other hand facilities won't be as important for recruiting.
Some of the facilities- practice fields, nutrition centers, etc. - were sold on the concept that they would make the team better (compared to say the locker rooms with TVs that just exist to impress recruits). I guess we will see if any of that actually works when the playing field is more even.
Some of the facilities- practice fields, nutrition centers, etc. - were sold on the concept that they would make the team better (compared to say the locker rooms with TVs that just exist to impress recruits). I guess we will see if any of that actually works when the playing field is more even.
Posted on 4/24/25 at 12:52 pm to BenHOGan1
It'd be interesting to see how donations to the University in general are going in the NIL era....I would bet they are down somewhat.
Posted on 4/24/25 at 1:16 pm to nicholastiger
I hear they're going to the dim the lights in the stadiums during the 4th quarter to save money for NIL.
Posted on 4/24/25 at 5:29 pm to Jimmy Bags
War Memorial stadium has already been doing that.
Posted on 4/24/25 at 6:48 pm to bamameister
I agree with this and the other posters, there is only so much money and NIL is like a newborn with a big appetite.
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