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Unintended consequence of the NIL/Collective era - Facilities

Posted on 4/24/25 at 10:31 am
Posted by BenHOGan1
KC Area
Member since Feb 2021
159 posts
Posted on 4/24/25 at 10:31 am
I've heard a couple of stories from schools who had to shelve facilities upgrades because they only have so many donors to hit up for funding and right now, they need all of those boosters directing their money to players.

For as long as we can remember, schools especially in the SEC have been involved in an impressive "arms race" to see who can have the biggest, best, shiniest, most technologically advanced facilities. And now, schools are having to make a choice between staying current with the latest facilities, and paying for a roster.
Posted by Yaboylsu63
Member since Mar 2014
2073 posts
Posted on 4/24/25 at 10:39 am to
Honestly the whole facilities arms race was getting out of hand.

A lot of top programs facilities are now nicer than NFL programs.

Not every 18 year old needs Xboxes and massaging seats in their locker. They are there to play football.
Posted by twk
Wichita Falls, Texas
Member since Jul 2011
2349 posts
Posted on 4/24/25 at 10:46 am to
Who knows where NIL will end up (House settlement might be a drastic change, but then again, that could blow up). But, one thing that I don't believe will change is that NIL will not be considered a charitable contribution, so, if you can't claim it as an advertising expense, spending on NIL will not provide the same tax benefit that contributing to facilities will. The other aspect of that is, if you're going to give millions of dollars, a lot of folks want something tangible with their name on it that will be around for a while, whereas NIL is mostly done behind closed doors and is ephemeral--it's gone as soon as you write the check.
Posted by tigerbait2010
PNW
Member since May 2006
31511 posts
Posted on 4/24/25 at 10:51 am to
LSU is about to build a new arena. As far as facilities go, besides the arena it would be nice if Alex box got the upgrades it deserves. I’m not sure how inclined LSU is to drop 100 mill to spruce the box up when our NIL is as strong as it currently is.

Tiger Stadium just needs better concessions would love to renovate the lower bowl but not remotely as necessary as upgrading the box.


With that said I haven’t heard a word around LSU in a few years since NIL kicked off
Posted by NWLA_Bama
Member since Aug 2024
504 posts
Posted on 4/24/25 at 11:00 am to
quote:

I've heard a couple of stories from schools who had to shelve facilities upgrades because they only have so many donors to hit up for funding and right now, they need all of those boosters directing their money to players.

For as long as we can remember, schools especially in the SEC have been involved in an impressive "arms race" to see who can have the biggest, best, shiniest, most technologically advanced facilities. And now, schools are having to make a choice between staying current with the latest facilities and paying for a roster.



Yep, and once the Supreme Court settlement finally comes down, the P4 schools are going to be hit with an additional $20 million in additional costs that they will have to pay out to the athletes in all sports. Most schools simply do not have an endless supply of money to cover these new costs AND continue investing in facilities.
Posted by Granola
Member since Jan 2024
1655 posts
Posted on 4/24/25 at 11:02 am to
the current pay for play that we have now is unsustainable
Posted by Faurot fodder
Member since Jul 2019
4625 posts
Posted on 4/24/25 at 11:03 am to
We've started a $250 million renovation to Faurot. Maybe we're siphoning cash from the baseball NIL? Yep, that's it. That's gotta be why our baseball is so bad.
Posted by ukraine_rebel
North Mississippi
Member since Oct 2012
3088 posts
Posted on 4/24/25 at 11:06 am to
The reason you could have a facilities arm race to begin with was that you had players playing for peanuts. Only makes sense that when you jack up the cost of doing business that somethings are going to be on the chopping block. I predict the next thing to go will be the massive coaching contract buyouts.
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
50262 posts
Posted on 4/24/25 at 11:08 am to
LSU new arena involves city so it doesn't fall all on LSU

Athletic Departments are about to tie up $20 million in players, cuts will have to come from somewhere, either facilities or shedding salaries of employees
Posted by Gaston
Dirty Coast
Member since Aug 2008
40974 posts
Posted on 4/24/25 at 11:12 am to
Most SEC teams are pretty stacked. All of the contenders have pretty much maxed that out. UF came in late, but gassed it by most schools.
Posted by NWLA_Bama
Member since Aug 2024
504 posts
Posted on 4/24/25 at 11:15 am to
quote:

Athletic Departments are about to tie up $20 million in players, cuts will have to come from somewhere, either facilities or shedding salaries of employees


To make up the difference, it will probably be both that get cuts. I expect to see positions within AD's eliminated and a lot of their work passed on to those they decide to keep. I also expect to see a sizeable adjustment (downward) in capital project budgets for a lot of universities.
Posted by bamameister
Right here, right now
Member since May 2016
16414 posts
Posted on 4/24/25 at 11:15 am to
quote:

I've heard a couple of stories from schools who had to shelve facilities upgrades because they only have so many donors to hit up for funding and right now, they need all of those boosters directing their money to players.


And COVID has wrecked the economy. Building an outhouse would require major financing.

The biggest problem going forward is the speed at which these player auctions are escalating. We have a 4-year sample size, and out-of-control bidding has put most of the leverage with players. 18-year-old millionaires are about to run college football into the poorhouse. Take just a moment to grasp that reality.
Posted by SmackoverHawg
Member since Oct 2011
28904 posts
Posted on 4/24/25 at 11:17 am to
If I were a player, I'd take adequate facilities without the frills and more cash. The need to teach these kids how to manage money. Some can build life changing wealth if they take care of business.

I think we should focus on a program that helps the athletes with this and the future. Get Stephens to help them invest. Teach them how to market themselves and get real NIL deals and set themselves up for life. Many won't appreciate it, but down the line it'll pay dividends if our former players are much more successful in life than anyone else's. Play the long game. We've already lost the short game.
Posted by OccamsStubble
Member since Aug 2019
7399 posts
Posted on 4/24/25 at 11:29 am to
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The other aspect of that is, if you're going to give millions of dollars, a lot of folks want something tangible with their name on it that will be around for a while, whereas NIL is mostly done behind closed doors and is ephemeral--it's gone as soon as you write the check.


What’s to say you can’t get your name or likeness, or your company name tattooed on the thigh of that freshman point guard, or forehead of that flashy QB?
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34668 posts
Posted on 4/24/25 at 12:17 pm to
It does seem like the programs that upgraded prior to NiL will have the advantage with facilities, but on the other hand facilities won't be as important for recruiting.

Some of the facilities- practice fields, nutrition centers, etc. - were sold on the concept that they would make the team better (compared to say the locker rooms with TVs that just exist to impress recruits). I guess we will see if any of that actually works when the playing field is more even.
Posted by AwgustaDawg
CSRA
Member since Jan 2023
11046 posts
Posted on 4/24/25 at 12:52 pm to
It'd be interesting to see how donations to the University in general are going in the NIL era....I would bet they are down somewhat.
Posted by Jimmy Bags
Member since Apr 2025
83 posts
Posted on 4/24/25 at 1:16 pm to
I hear they're going to the dim the lights in the stadiums during the 4th quarter to save money for NIL.
Posted by dchog
Pea Ridge
Member since Nov 2012
25534 posts
Posted on 4/24/25 at 5:29 pm to
War Memorial stadium has already been doing that.
Posted by TriStateAreaFootball
Member since Dec 2024
857 posts
Posted on 4/24/25 at 5:38 pm to


Posted by JacieNY
Member since Jul 2024
564 posts
Posted on 4/24/25 at 6:48 pm to
I agree with this and the other posters, there is only so much money and NIL is like a newborn with a big appetite.
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