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Posted on 11/24/23 at 5:31 pm to Poker_hog
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bet Pittman "decides" to retire with a full buyout
I wouldn't be surprised if he steps down with a re-structured buy out. Sometimes it's just time to walk away.
Home game after all the turmoil. Being overlooked. Yes, Jefferson was hurt, but no one stood up or rallied for the cause.
It's mercy knee time now.
Posted on 11/24/23 at 5:35 pm to Lord of the Hogs
It’s not just access. It’s creating a culture where kids want to play. Pittman is a great recruiter and it’s gonna take time. I’m not saying he will ever recruit at Bamas or Georgias level but he can bring good classes. Classes that over time become good enough to beat the brakes off Misery. It takes time
and patience
Firing the Pittboss sets your program back even further. Ask UF what the revolving door of coaches has gotten them. And they can attract far better coaches that Arky
and patience
Firing the Pittboss sets your program back even further. Ask UF what the revolving door of coaches has gotten them. And they can attract far better coaches that Arky
Posted on 11/24/23 at 5:35 pm to Rabern57
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If them and UF don't fire their coaches and move on they will be in a bigger hole after next year.
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Auburn Fan
Posted on 11/24/23 at 5:39 pm to SaturdayNAthens
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I’m asking a legit question. Who can Ark get that will be better?
This line of questioning always annoys me, because it ignores the trend line. Why does any institution have to ignore not only the current state of affairs, but the trend line ?
Leave the PitBoss in charge ? What you're seeing today isn't the bottom. Project what the bottom will look like.
Now, who can they get that will do better than THAT ? And why wait ?
Posted on 11/24/23 at 5:40 pm to Lord of the Hogs
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Well then, if Arkansas had access to the amount of talent Georgia does, we’d win more games, too.
You don’t have to have Georgia’s players to keep from fumbling 4 times by mid 3rd quarter
Posted on 11/24/23 at 5:40 pm to SaturdayNAthens
They should set their sights on Drinkwitz who kicked their arse today. Done a great job at App State (I think) and Missouri and grew up/coached in Arkansas. Might be a money battle but he would be worth it
Posted on 11/24/23 at 5:43 pm to SaturdayNAthens
Be careful to kick him out? Have you seen how bad we are? You can frick off, but Arkansas has better standards than this shite.
We don’t need a Saban or Smart, we just need competent coaching with massive talent brought in through NIL. Ya know, buying players like Alabama and Georgia have done for decades.
We don’t need a Saban or Smart, we just need competent coaching with massive talent brought in through NIL. Ya know, buying players like Alabama and Georgia have done for decades.
Posted on 11/24/23 at 5:44 pm to SaturdayNAthens
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Firing the Pittboss sets your program back even further. Ask UF what the revolving door of coaches has gotten them. And they can attract far better coaches that Arky
Ask Auburn too
Posted on 11/24/23 at 5:44 pm to SaturdayNAthens
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It’s not just access. It’s creating a culture where kids want to play. Pittman is a great recruiter and it’s gonna take time. I’m not saying he will ever recruit at Bamas or Georgias level but he can bring good classes. Classes that over time become good enough to beat the brakes off Misery. It takes time
and patience
Firing the Pittboss sets your program back even further. Ask UF what the revolving door of coaches has gotten them. And they can attract far better coaches that Arky
I understand UGA fans have an affinity for Pittman and are rooting for him on a personal level, but this is year 4. This is his team, period.
And it's not like we're just getting out-talented and out-bluechipped and taking these losses while fighting and playing hard. That would be understandable. We actually have some quality players, at least enough quality to give Bama and LSU a tough fight in their own stadiums.
But that was when the team was actually playing motivated. For whatever reason, the team has just completely quit on Pittman and especially at home. There is no fight, no pride, no give a shite on this field right now. And that was the case against BYU at home, against State at home, against Auburn at home, against FIU at home, and now Mizzou at home.
You would think that his players would play harder for him today than ever. This is their last game of the season and everyone has been doubting them, while their coach just got the vote of confidence from the AD. The total lack of motivation or fight today is a clear sign that he's lost the team, they're playing with nothing to lose and they still couldn't care enough to even try to prove the doubters wrong.
If Pittman had any idea how to fix the motivation and culture issues he would've a long time ago. The fact of the matter is that he doesn't know how, and there's no defending it. I don't care if you have to reach down to the G5 level to find a potential replacement, ANYONE that has passion and the drive to win will do better than this.
Posted on 11/24/23 at 5:44 pm to qman91
quote:Florida has recruits looking around and jumping ship. They aren't going to drop to Arky level but they are expected to compete every year for the conference title. Arkansas may be in a lower tier in football but they have to expect to jump up every now and then and still be competitive in every game. They are on Vandy level right now.
Florida has a top 10 recruiting class coming in so things can change for them next year, but I don't see that for Arky unless they hit the portal heavy.
Posted on 11/24/23 at 5:45 pm to Dawgy49
True. But my point still stands. Give us Georgia’s talent over that time period and we win more games too.
Posted on 11/24/23 at 5:45 pm to Lucado
He needs at least another 17 seasons
Posted on 11/24/23 at 5:47 pm to Lord of the Hogs
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Be careful to kick him out? Have you seen how bad we are? You can frick off, but Arkansas has better standards than this shite.
Arkansas has better standards?? Arkansas has had 3 double digit win seasons in the last 34. You are who you are
Posted on 11/24/23 at 5:49 pm to Partha
quote:Auburn just has idiots hiring. They hired Chizik after he was losing 2/3rds of his games and hired Harsin as a pure gamble. Gus was decent but refused to adapt when needed to win games.
Ask Auburn too
Posted on 11/24/23 at 5:49 pm to Lord of the Hogs
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Give us Georgia’s talent over that time period, and we win more games too.
Recruiting is job #1 for CFB HCs. In today's game, that is understanding NIL and navigating the portal, as much or more than HS evaluation. Talent is more nationally transferable and available than ever before. You just need a HC that focuses there and grinds his staff into the ground to keep their focus there as well.
Posted on 11/24/23 at 5:50 pm to Rabern57
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Auburn just has idiots hiring. They hired Chizik after he was losing 2/3rds of his games and hired Harsin as a pure gamble. Gus was decent but refused to adapt when needed to win games.
And the Freeze hire reeks of desperation.
Posted on 11/24/23 at 5:53 pm to Che Boludo
quote:States with more talent are always going to be at an advantage and get more players because they grew up state fans. Their coaches dont have to work near as hard as coaches in states with little to no in state yearly talent. Kirby nor Saban would be competing yearly. Saban couldn't even sustain yearly at LSU and they have in state talent every year.
Recruiting is job #1 for CFB HCs.
Posted on 11/24/23 at 5:54 pm to Partha
quote:Freeze has proven he can win in the SEC with some talent. None of the other hires had.
And the Freeze hire reeks of desperation.
Posted on 11/24/23 at 5:55 pm to RazorBroncs
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But that was when the team was actually playing motivated. For whatever reason, the team has just completely quit on Pittman and especially at home. There is no fight, no pride, no give a shite on this field right now.
I think part of it comes down to scheme. And on that level, I think Pittman and Stoops have a lot in common.
You can convince kids that have not won anything to run through a brick wall, if it means a rare win and respect. You can also convince kids who are winning everything to run through a brick wall, as long as it means championships and an elite level of respect.
What do you do in the middle ? When running through brick walls doesn't make you top tier, and not running through brick walls still gets you by ?
You get Arkansas. You get Kentucky this year. You get Florida and Mississippi State and Vandy every year not named James Franklin. You get mediocrity. And the problem with that is you're always trending up, or down. No program ever simply hovers. Not how human nature works.
If you are Arkansas, you let Pittman go just for that. Because it's not getting any better, which guarantees you it's going to get worse. Nature of the beast.
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