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Posted on 4/9/19 at 9:00 pm to Bulldogblitz
Posted on 4/9/19 at 9:00 pm to Bulldogblitz
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Are you going to update the thread of just ignore some of the new stories on this topic?
AndTheValleyShock
This article specifically calls out the article you linked as a "logical leap".
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cool fan posts.
That article was written by a lawyer, FWIW.
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Posted on 4/9/19 at 9:58 pm to pioneerbasketball
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TIFWIW, but there are some pretty strong rumblings in BTR that Will Wade is in the process of being reinstated as HC and Joe Alleva has been bought out of his contract (Alleva only has a little over a year left on contract)
Why is it taking so long?
quote:Alleva has been on a run of painfully awkward and miscalculated blunders, going back to the initial move to fire Miles in 2015. He has embarrassed the University and undermined LSU's reputation. The way he handled the Wade situation is just the last straw.
and Joe Alleva has been bought out of his contract
To move on Alleva, you have to first line up the BOS and other important people, so the actual termination is quick and decisive. And you have to have several viable options to put in his place, before you move, so the situation doesn't fester any further out of control. This needs to be done cleanly, to start restoring the athletic department.
Orgeron was recently politicking with the Governor, I think he knows what's up and is trying to ensure he has support before the next guy comes in.
Posted on 4/9/19 at 10:01 pm to Scoob
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Alleva has been on a run of painfully awkward and miscalculated blunders, going back to the initial move to fire Miles in 2015. He has embarrassed the University and undermined LSU's reputation. The way he handled the Wade situation is just the last straw.
I would guess Alleva has a far better grasp of what should’ve been done than the rando on Tigerdroppings. Y’all can caterwaul and moan all you want, but he had virtually no choice but to suspend the coach.
Posted on 4/9/19 at 10:10 pm to the808bass
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I would guess Alleva has a far better grasp of what should’ve been done than the rando on Tigerdroppings. Y’all can caterwaul and moan all you want, but he had virtually no choice but to suspend the coach.
See Bruce Pearl. Alleva had options. The first move shouldn’t have been to bait Wade into a meeting with the school’s legal counsel and a fricking NCAA rep because he panicked. Wade did the best thing possible and that was to just stay far away from Alleva. It was the Duke Lacrosse scandal all over again with the way he overreacted.
Posted on 4/9/19 at 11:23 pm to the808bass
quote:You would guess that, as the man is the AD. But he's repeatedly shown that he DOESN'T have a firm grasp on what to do.
I would guess Alleva has a far better grasp of what should’ve been done than the rando on Tigerdroppings. Y’all can caterwaul and moan all you want, but he had virtually no choice but to suspend the coach.
Miles situation- he let resentment and frustrations brew until there was widespread accord that Les Miles must go. He had the fanbase willingly marching in the revolt to lynch Miles. He then bungled that, failing to follow through. So he turned the head football coach into a hated and powerless figure, then left him in place. This was an absolute disgrace- you either back and support your coach, or you remove him. He did neither.
He then finally did it 4 games into the following season. And despite having the jump on hiring a new coach, he somehow ended up hiring perhaps the most unimpressive candidate possible in Orgeron- a man with no demonstrated success, no loyalty shown in the past, no tangible credentials even as an assistant, who's public image was a mumbling buffoon con artist. O's recent respectable level of success (not great, mind you, just respectable) might make people forget how mind-numbing of a hire it was... LSU fired a GOOD coach because he wasn't good enough, and replaced him with somebody most FCS programs weren't interested in.
You add in the Wade situation, objectively- news propaganda and clickbait, posted by a desperate obscure outlet (Yahoo Sports), of juicy rumors coming from a defense attorney in a bribery trial- no solid proof, no NCAA probe, no suspicious influx of elite talent- the kid in question is from Baton Rouge. Just a mention of Wade (who was suddenly a hot name since LSU was rising in the SEC), cast opposite the media's darling Kentucky and the Tennessee dream team (all wonderful upperclassmen yada yada). ESPN ate it up because it was good drama for the regular season, but it was, and is, empty.
Alleva could have ignored it outright, or quashed it quickly with a simple statement. Certainly he could have simply said LSU would investigate any specific charges that can be substantiated, but would not act on mere rumor. Instead he enabled a voluntary dismantling of the budding program, over something that has since dropped off the national consciousness.
I mean, imagine if Alabama were to suspend Saban going into the SEC championship in football, because somebody said football players got cars or juiced up. That's been said, after all. No hard investigation, and until the NCAA comes knocking, they wouldn't dream of doing something like that. But clearly, Alleva and LSU would.
Posted on 4/9/19 at 11:33 pm to Scoob
Posted on 4/10/19 at 2:08 am to MightyYat
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The first move shouldn’t have been to bait Wade into a meeting with the school’s legal counsel and a fricking NCAA rep because he panicked.
You’re all children. Wade had given them assurances of what was and wasn’t on the tape. And he lied. Oddly enough, when you lie to your boss in a manner which brings great attention to the business in a negative sense, the boss becomes displeased.
The amazing thing is that the fan base blames the problem, not on the lying cheat, but the AD who’s trying to hold the whole basketball program back from the death penalty.
Posted on 4/10/19 at 2:10 am to Scoob
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imagine if Alabama were to suspend Saban going into the SEC championship in football, because somebody said football players got cars or juiced up. That's been said, after all. No hard investigation, and until the NCAA comes knocking, they wouldn't dream of doing something like that. But clearly, Alleva and LSU would.
There’s nothing more to respond to here. Just simply quote your idiocy and let it stand.
Posted on 4/10/19 at 2:18 am to civiltiger07
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This article specifically calls out the article you linked as a "logical leap".
You mean the SBNation LSU blog?
You want me to update this thread with “new info” from an LSU blog and discount a major story from Yahoo, all because this blogger says so?
Is that right?
This is the equivalent of the dude who kept demanding that I update the thread with “news” from The Hayride. El oh el.
Posted on 4/10/19 at 5:06 am to the808bass
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Wade had given them assurances of what was and wasn’t on the tape. And he lied.
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The amazing thing is that the fan base blames the problem, not on the lying cheat...
Link?
Posted on 4/10/19 at 5:38 am to MightyYat
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See Bruce Pearl. Alleva had options.
:rotflmao: :rotflmao: Yes, because it was the exact same thing.
Posted on 4/10/19 at 6:56 am to Tuscaloosa
I'd trust that blog to report simply the facts and explain the situation more than I'd trust Yahoo to not blow anything out of proportion to get page clicks.
Yahoo is on par with Pete Thamel.
Yahoo is on par with Pete Thamel.
Posted on 4/10/19 at 7:09 am to wadewilson
Take a look at the non-LSU posters who are still plugging away in this thread.
That should tell you all you need to know about the integrity and quality of the content here.
Expect very, very little by way of honesty and facts and you'll be amused rather than disappointed.
That should tell you all you need to know about the integrity and quality of the content here.
Expect very, very little by way of honesty and facts and you'll be amused rather than disappointed.
Posted on 4/10/19 at 7:10 am to Tuscaloosa
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You want me to update this thread with “new info” from an LSU blog and discount a major story from Yahoo, all because this blogger says so?
If you read the article you would see that the article is referring to Mark Schlabach's article where he actually did some reporting and dug into why the FBI agent was in Baton Rouge. Unlike those jackleg clickbait excuses for reporters at Yahoo.
Here you go I'll help you out: Mark Schlabach's article
Posted on 4/10/19 at 7:13 am to the808bass
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I would guess Alleva has a far better grasp of what should’ve been done than the rando on Tigerdroppings. Y’all can caterwaul and moan all you want, but he had virtually no choice but to suspend the coach.
You arent very connected to the situation. The founder of TAF and one of LSU's biggest money donors Richard Lipsey is getting him run out of town for this stunt he and F King pulled on Wade which was completely unnecessary. No they didnt have to suspend him based on a yahoo article on a supposed LEAK where all the facts were not present.
So, this isn't a "Tigerdroppings" phenomenon, it's a near everyone pissed off and wanting these guys gone situation. and that seems to be in the works because the big money donors are making their voice heard.
Wade is getting pretty close to being reinstated right now.
This post was edited on 4/10/19 at 7:17 am
Posted on 4/10/19 at 7:24 am to thunderbird1100
These LSU fans thinking Wade is coming back are fricking crazy.
Posted on 4/10/19 at 7:25 am to BoarEd
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These LSU fans thinking Wade is coming back are fricking crazy.
No way this backfires
Posted on 4/10/19 at 7:26 am to pioneerbasketball
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These LSU fans thinking Wade is coming back are fricking crazy.quote:
No way this backfires
Posted on 4/10/19 at 7:27 am to pioneerbasketball
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No way this backfires
I'm not a jinx, Pio.
Posted on 4/10/19 at 7:28 am to thunderbird1100
Wade is pretty close to being locked up right now.
This is what you meant?
This is what you meant?
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