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re: 25th to 75th Percentiles for 2018 SEC Freshman ACT scores at each school
Posted on 11/26/19 at 10:02 am to Murph4HOF
Posted on 11/26/19 at 10:02 am to Murph4HOF
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Unfortunately, it also still admits too many lower tier students.
It's the state university of the state of Alabama.
I have zero problem with it admitting in-state kids who might not have top tier test scores. That's it's job. Bringing in high quality kids from in and out of state is great, and I'm glad they have been able to do that. But there aren't enough high scoring kids in the state to cut off kids below 25/26 on the ACT and still have an in-state presence. You can do that in Georgia/Florida/Texas/Virginia - you can't do that in Alabama.
I hear you, but the problem with your argument is that Auburn currently has more in state students than Alabama. Alabama is making big efforts to change that, with some success.
Unfortunately, within Alabama, too many students think that Auburn is the better school, because it has set a higher bar for admission. And it has paid off in terms of perceptions. There is no reason for Alabama to have a lower bar for admission. There are plenty of schools in Alabama that can educate the lower tier students. It is way past time for Alabama alumni to demand a tightening of standards.
Auburn can afford to admit fewer lower tier in state students even as it can not attract as many higher tier students from out of state.
This post was edited on 11/26/19 at 10:08 am
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Posted on 11/26/19 at 10:12 am to Hobnailboot
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Ole Miss 21-29
Miss State 22-29
Auburn 23-28
Arkansas 23-29
Kentucky 23-29
LSU 23-29
Mizzou 23-29
Alabama 23-31
USC 25-30
Tennessee 25-31
Texas A&M 25-31
Florida 27-32
UGA 27-32
Vanderbilt 33-35
You should also include the $$$ parents spent getting their kids prepped and coached for the standardized test.
Many of those low 20s scores have more to do with lack of preparation (like memorizing the definitions of obscure words few people actually use) than lack of intelligence.
Posted on 11/26/19 at 10:13 am to Papplesbeast
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You should also include the $$$ parents spent getting their kids prepped and coached for the standardized test.
Many of those low 20s scores have more to do with lack of preparation (like memorizing the definitions of obscure words few people actually use) than lack of intelligence.
That sounds plausible, but there is a high correlation between standardized test scores and IQ scores.
Posted on 11/26/19 at 10:16 am to InGAButLoveBama
Engineers make more money that a liberal arts degrees. SEC schools with good engineering programs have grads making more money.
Posted on 11/26/19 at 10:22 am to InGAButLoveBama
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That sounds plausible, but there is a high correlation between standardized test scores and IQ scores.
There's also a strong correlation with household income. Most families don't have a couple grand to drop on an ACT course or tutor, but some do. There are too many confounding variables to draw any firm conclusions from the data.
Also, IQ scores don't mean squat. You can train yourself for those as well. Not to mention the fact that there are many types of intelligences, so the idea of a single intelligence score is absurd on its face.
This post was edited on 11/26/19 at 10:23 am
Posted on 11/26/19 at 10:52 am to tiger perry
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Engineers make more money that a liberal arts degrees. SEC schools with good engineering programs have grads making more money.
It's not like schools with good liberal arts programs never have good engineering programs. Alabama enrolls a higher quality class of undergrad engineers than Auburn, judging by avg ACT scores, but has larger and better liberal arts programs.
Posted on 11/26/19 at 11:58 am to WildcatMike
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Look at all the President’s and Chancellor’s of Universities and Colleges...they all graduated for UK.
I just hope you don't aspire to be one of them. Your grammar is atrocious.
Posted on 11/26/19 at 12:13 pm to ExtraSpecial
Here is one factor: The state of Alabama is ACT-centric, meaning that everyone in the state pretty much takes the ACT and not so much take the SAT. The state of Florida is SAT-centric. So, the sample for Alabama is significant. It is relatively and emphatically mediocre. To get Florida's for example, you'd have to look at the SAT scores. I know some things about this due to my 4 kids college applications, research, and campus tours. Florida is crazy hard to get into and their SAT range is incredibly high. Alabama not so much. I have 2 in college. 1 graduated from college. And 1 more will be in college next year. All 4 are in/were in/will be in different schools. Alabama is surprisingly good at some things like merit scholars and they have good academics. But, they are nowhere close to Georgia, Florida, or Vanderbilt in terms of overall academics, research, or diploma prestige recognition. As for Louisiana, well, unfortunately, Alabama shows better.
This post was edited on 11/26/19 at 12:20 pm
Posted on 11/26/19 at 12:48 pm to ExtraSpecial
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Your grammar is atrocious.
I guess that LSU education did me well!
Posted on 11/26/19 at 12:49 pm to Old Money
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1. Vanderbilt University* – $64,400 (private university)
2. Texas A&M University – $66,600
Umm...
Posted on 11/26/19 at 3:10 pm to Farmer1906
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Here is one factor: The state of Alabama is ACT-centric, meaning that everyone in the state pretty much takes the ACT and not so much take the SAT. The state of Florida is SAT-centric. So, the sample for Alabama is significant. It is relatively and emphatically mediocre. To get Florida's for example, you'd have to look at the SAT scores. I know some things about this due to my 4 kids college applications, research, and campus tours. Florida is crazy hard to get into and their SAT range is incredibly high. Alabama not so much. I have 2 in college. 1 graduated from college. And 1 more will be in college next year. All 4 are in/were in/will be in different schools. Alabama is surprisingly good at some things like merit scholars and they have good academics. But, they are nowhere close to Georgia, Florida, or Vanderbilt in terms of overall academics, research, or diploma prestige recognition. As for Louisiana, well, unfortunately, Alabama shows better.
Except Alabama enrolls a higher number, though not percentage, of top students than UGA. Do the math based on the 75th percentile data I presented and the size of Alabama's freshman class relative to UGA's. Somehow, those top students disagree with you.
All you can say is that Alabama enrolls a lot more lower tier students than UGA.
This post was edited on 11/26/19 at 3:12 pm
Posted on 11/26/19 at 3:39 pm to Old Money
66,600 the average A&M grad earns?
do you really make that much sucking cock
do you really make that much sucking cock
Posted on 11/26/19 at 4:06 pm to InGAButLoveBama
There is 1 SEC with more Rhodes Scholars than all the others and it's not Vanderbilt 
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