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re: Had an interesting convo today with someone involved in recruiting
Posted on 7/31/19 at 8:59 am to dhuck20
Posted on 7/31/19 at 8:59 am to dhuck20
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Thread seems of sour grapes just to throw shot at an obvious "unnamed" school.
He was being classy by not naming the school.
"I'm not naming the school because I am way too classy for that, but I will give you hints that will make that unnamed school so obvious nobody could miss it."
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Posted on 7/31/19 at 9:04 am to Rip N Lip
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He was on the boog payroll for years after "stepping away" from coaching.
I can't take anybody seriously who uses a word like this? Are you 10 years old? or just intellectually on that level?
Posted on 7/31/19 at 9:04 am to DawgsLife
Not really. I said two were cheating, one is not a rival. Georgia's massive increase in recruiting with an unproven head coach in a years time after a poor first year kind of hints.
There is better recruiting, and then there is rising dramatically. Last team to be so obviously cheating was Ole Miss. There fans denied it too of course. I'm sure we all have booster gifts that do not coordinate with the coaches or recruiting personnel. Georgia's rise didnt happen by doing what everyone else does though.
Georgia when Kirby came was a upper middle program. No title in 35 years, not even a title game. Was second fiddle to Florida and well below LSU and Bama.
He has a very average first year. Then lands a top class well beyond what Georgia usually got? Hrm. If you do not understand why everyone but your fans are suspicious, it is kind of easy to see. Was the same with Ole Miss. Very obvious, very blatant. Recruits need a reason to go to a school. Georgia didn't have the NFL pipeline of Bama, LSU, OSU, or even Florida. Didn't have a proven HC like Clemson, Bama, etc.
Yet continuously beat these better programs out at an absurdly astonishing rate. Wonder how. Guess it is his fun personality that never showcases itself except behind closed doors.
There is better recruiting, and then there is rising dramatically. Last team to be so obviously cheating was Ole Miss. There fans denied it too of course. I'm sure we all have booster gifts that do not coordinate with the coaches or recruiting personnel. Georgia's rise didnt happen by doing what everyone else does though.
Georgia when Kirby came was a upper middle program. No title in 35 years, not even a title game. Was second fiddle to Florida and well below LSU and Bama.
He has a very average first year. Then lands a top class well beyond what Georgia usually got? Hrm. If you do not understand why everyone but your fans are suspicious, it is kind of easy to see. Was the same with Ole Miss. Very obvious, very blatant. Recruits need a reason to go to a school. Georgia didn't have the NFL pipeline of Bama, LSU, OSU, or even Florida. Didn't have a proven HC like Clemson, Bama, etc.
Yet continuously beat these better programs out at an absurdly astonishing rate. Wonder how. Guess it is his fun personality that never showcases itself except behind closed doors.
This post was edited on 7/31/19 at 9:12 am
Posted on 7/31/19 at 9:07 am to Gatorbait2008
Did you just become my new favorite poster?
Posted on 7/31/19 at 9:08 am to DawgsLife
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Don't Auburn fans claim Mississippi State offered cam a large sum of money?
I've never seen an Auburn fan claim this.
Posted on 7/31/19 at 9:09 am to Gatorbait2008
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Not really. I said two were cheating, one is not a rival. Georgia's massive increase in recruiting with an unproven head coach in a years time after a poor first year kind of hints.
You don't think the rival with no championships might have given an obvious hint? Let me see....who could that possibly be? Let's see how you put it?
3. Two teams in the SEC are well known to be offering "benefits." One is obvious, one is somewhat obvious based on how he recruited at his other school. I'll let you guess which two they are. Title droughts are a good hint.
Naw. How could anybody possibly guess?
Then, just in case somebody didn't get that you added:
5. They suspect one team in the SEC has started too give extra "benefits", but no one has directly told them(players looking for counter offers). Newer coach, from the same system as another "benefit giving" head coach. Thinks it may be short term if it is happening to just get a more stable roster with talent that has been lacking at the program.
No. Who could possibly guess who you were talking about?
Stay classy, dude. Be above all of the riff raff calling out programs over unsubstantiated claims.
Posted on 7/31/19 at 9:11 am to Leto II
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I've never seen an Auburn fan claim this.
Been awhile, but I have. Frankly, I don't care. I just thought with all the accusations (Whether from Auburn fans or others) that that fan was saying basically the same thing to an Alabama fan.
It just seems dumb for any fan of a major college football program to point fingers and scream, "You're cheating but we aren't!"
Posted on 7/31/19 at 9:13 am to DawgsLife
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It just seems dumb for any fan of a major college football program to point fingers and scream, "You're cheating but we aren't!"
I wholeheartedly agree with that
Posted on 7/31/19 at 9:13 am to DawgsLife
I said one was a rival. One was not.
The hint was to let people have fun guessing. But if must know. Aggies were the other team. You can speculate on the rival.
As for five. That isn't Georgia.
The hint was to let people have fun guessing. But if must know. Aggies were the other team. You can speculate on the rival.
As for five. That isn't Georgia.
This post was edited on 7/31/19 at 9:15 am
Posted on 7/31/19 at 9:16 am to Gatorbait2008
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Not really. I said two were cheating, one is not a rival. Georgia's massive increase in recruiting with an unproven head coach in a years time after a poor first year kind of hints.
Never mind Kirby recruited great at Alabama? How could he possibly recruit well at georgia? First y'all say georgia is an underachieving program because we haven't won while in a state with so much talent, now that we put an emphasis on recruiting we are cheating by getting all these good players? make up your mind, will you?
quote:Georgia dramatically went from a 6-8 recruiting ranking to a #2-3 recruting program? That is dramatic to you?
There is better recruiting, and then there is rising dramatically.
Then I guess going from #14 to #9 is pretty dramatic, too? Isn't that what Florida did?
Posted on 7/31/19 at 9:17 am to Gatorbait2008
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I said one was a rival. One was not.
The hint was to let people have fun guessing. But if must know. Aggies were the other team. You can speculate on the rival.
Dude. Florida's rivals?
Georgia. FSU. Let me see. Which one is in the SEC? Hmmmmm.
Posted on 7/31/19 at 9:21 am to Gatorbait2008
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I'm sure this gets 100 down votes
Well, at least you were right about 1 thing....
Posted on 7/31/19 at 9:25 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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If he coached at Mississippi State he would likely never bowl.
I wonder if he'd have the worst record against ranked teams in NCAA history like Mullen.
Posted on 7/31/19 at 9:29 am to Gatorbait2008
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Not really. I said two were cheating, one is not a rival. Georgia's massive increase in recruiting with an unproven head coach in a years time after a poor first year kind of hints.
There is better recruiting, and then there is rising dramatically. Last team to be so obviously cheating was Ole Miss. There fans denied it too of course. I'm sure we all have booster gifts that do not coordinate with the coaches or recruiting personnel. Georgia's rise didnt happen by doing what everyone else does though.
Georgia when Kirby came was a upper middle program. No title in 35 years, not even a title game. Was second fiddle to Florida and well below LSU and Bama.
He has a very average first year. Then lands a top class well beyond what Georgia usually got? Hrm. If you do not understand why everyone but your fans are suspicious, it is kind of easy to see. Was the same with Ole Miss. Very obvious, very blatant. Recruits need a reason to go to a school. Georgia didn't have the NFL pipeline of Bama, LSU, OSU, or even Florida. Didn't have a proven HC like Clemson, Bama, etc.
Yet continuously beat these better programs out at an absurdly astonishing rate. Wonder how. Guess it is his fun personality that never showcases itself except behind closed doors.
So it surprises you that UGA has a good year recruiting after they have their best season in decades while their 2 main rivals are down? The same people that say UGA recruits itself and anyone could have top 10 classes at UGA are the same that think Kirby is cheating because he's recruiting well...
Posted on 7/31/19 at 9:32 am to Gatorbait2008
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There is better recruiting, and then there is rising dramatically.
2014: 8th
2015: 6th
2016: 6th (Kirby’s first year and class)
2017: 3rd
2018: 1st (after winning the SEC and playing for a Natty)
2019: 2nd
2020: 5th (currently)
I mean the fricking audacity, right??? A new, young coach leaves the premier program in football after a decade to return to his alma mater in one of the top 4 talent producing states in the country and *gasp* he improves recruiting by 3 spots in 2 years, wins the conference and plays for the team’s first title in 37 years, and now he has the #1 class???
OUTRAGE! CHEATING! OLE MISS! PLAIN AS DAY!
Posted on 7/31/19 at 10:16 am to tylerdurden24
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PLAINS AS DAY
Fify
Posted on 7/31/19 at 10:18 am to jj06
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They're too big of a name to cheat. They dont have to
yes they do. Kids care about the cash. If you aren't offering, why would I talk to you instead of the 15 other blue bloods/up and coming programs who are. Daddy needs a new pair of shoesPosted on 7/31/19 at 10:29 am to Prof
quote:this is contrary to everything that has been reported or even rumored about orgeron's long coaching career
He was the one telling recruits and early enrollees not to go to class
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he was the main reason UT had to call Verizon and get every phone for Kiffin's staff shut off instantly.
Posted on 7/31/19 at 10:31 am to Gatorbait2008
quote:yep. Compliance has become a euphemism for plausible deniability
Though he said compliance is pretty strict at a lot of schools now
Posted on 7/31/19 at 10:35 am to Gatorbait2008
quote:Where has UGA recruited over the last decade, and where has OM recruited? OM made a meteoric rise with the Reverend Freeze like OM had never experienced before. UGA not so much as they've always pulled talent. Kirby took it to another level from what Richt did in his last yrs.
There is better recruiting, and then there is rising dramatically. Last team to be so obviously cheating was Ole Miss. There fans denied it too of course. I'm sure we all have booster gifts that do not coordinate with the coaches or recruiting personnel. Georgia's rise didnt happen by doing what everyone else does though.
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