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re: Bigger Rivalry? Michigan and Ohio State or Auburn and Alabama?
Posted on 7/6/15 at 9:25 am to GEAUXmedic
Posted on 7/6/15 at 9:25 am to GEAUXmedic
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It doesn't get bigger than Michigan/Ohio State.
"The Game".
Iron Bowl might be big to SEC folks, but isn't as big nationally.
Posted on 7/6/15 at 9:59 am to Pettifogger
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What does this have to do with what I posted? You're just pissed that a region outside of your own now hosts a more intriguing rivalry.
Ehhh I just think it's cyclical as stated multiple times in the thread. Right now. Auburn and Bama are top 10 type teams year in and year out and Michigan just isn't. I would like to find a year where all 4 teams were really good to use that as a base, while still acknowledging that OSU/Michigan is a noon game (by tradition not because ESPN doesn't want to make it later) while Auburn/Bama is usually 3:30
Posted on 7/6/15 at 10:06 am to Buckeye06
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while Auburn/Bama is usually 3:30
only very recently, and 2:30/1:30 games were the norm
Posted on 7/6/15 at 10:16 am to BuckeyeFan87
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Well, now we know you're lying. Whether you loved or hated tB1G(or even as a casual fan), you certainly would have heard about The Game in 2006.
Really had no clue about the rivalry in 2006. I literally had to go to Google to figure out why I had no idea about this game. It's because I was on Paris Island going through boot camp and around November I was probably more worried about qualifying expert on the rifle range or getting ready for the Crucible than a football game.
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but at least you knew it was a thing. No one is going to argue the regional draw of the rivalry, but it's not on the same national level as OSU/UM
And I'm calling bullshite, no way you didn't know about the game in 2006
See the above. And by "didn't know shite" I mean I didn't even know it was a rivalry. I wasn't a huge college football fan at the time. I followed the SEC would watch bowl games and the NC game and that was about it. Didn't follow stats of anyone didn't memorize players names. And I didn't have cable or satellite so it was more hey football game on TV and I'd watch it. With the ol rabbit ears antenna that was almost entirely SEC or Sun Belt games.
This post was edited on 7/6/15 at 10:27 am
Posted on 7/6/15 at 10:18 am to NYCAuburn
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only very recently, and 2:30/1:30 games were the norm
Is that 3:30 ET (the 2:30 slot you are referring to)
I figured it just wasn't the first game on in the morning. Not saying it's a huge deal, but I think if OSU/Mich played the same time as Auburn/Bama everyone losses since most football fans want to see both
Posted on 7/6/15 at 10:21 am to Buckeye06
Haven't lived in Ohio or Michigan. I do live in Alabama. I can't imagine any rivalry being bigger than the Iron Bowl. It is between two schools within the same state (obvious point). My wife from Louisiana, when we were dating, went home with me the weekend of the Iron Bowl several years back. She commented on how every person she saw the day of the game while at different stores all had on either AU or UA gear and how she saw people jawing at each other. Prior to coming the Alabama and being an LSU graduate, she never comprehended the pure passion that game/two teams bring about in the state year round.
Posted on 7/6/15 at 10:24 am to threedog79
MI vs OSU has produced 18 games where both teams were ranked in the top 10. Numerous times they played to have a shot at a national title game (the way they did it in the old days) and for a conference title.
The numbers above far outpace Alabama vs Auburn. It isn't even close.
The numbers above far outpace Alabama vs Auburn. It isn't even close.
Posted on 7/6/15 at 10:26 am to Buckeye06
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Is that 3:30 ET (the 2:30 slot you are referring to)
I figured it just wasn't the first game on in the morning. Not saying it's a huge deal, but I think if OSU/Mich played the same time as Auburn/Bama everyone losses since most football fans want to see both
The 2:30\1:30 slot. its always been an earlier day game, because of the time of year. We recently switched to mostly playing the 3:30/2:30 slot after leaving the Friday time slot
Posted on 7/6/15 at 10:28 am to SemperAuburn
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And by "didn't know shite" I mean I didn't even know it was a rivalry.
You didn't know that Michigan/Ohio State was a rivalry?
Posted on 7/6/15 at 10:29 am to NYCAuburn
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The 2:30\1:30 slot. its always been an earlier day game, because of the time of year. We recently switched to mostly playing the 3:30/2:30 slot after leaving the Friday time slot
Hmm oh was the Iron Bowl on the day after Thanksgiving and it's moved to the Saturday now?
OSU/Michigan moved from the weekend before Thanksgiving a few years ago to help the conference gain more exposure later in the year
Posted on 7/6/15 at 10:29 am to nebraskafaninwi
So am I to understand that national implication is what makes a rivalry? The bloods and crips have never decided who played for a national championship but they are pretty big rivals.
Posted on 7/6/15 at 10:31 am to Buckeye06
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Hmm oh was the Iron Bowl on the day after Thanksgiving and it's moved to the Saturday now?
Yes, for a few years we moved the game to friday after thankgiving from the Saturday before thanksgiving(We were forced to move it to after thanksgiving because the other SEC teams protested that it gave AU/UA an unfair advantage in the SEC Championship game)
Posted on 7/6/15 at 10:35 am to Buckeye06
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Ehhh I just think it's cyclical as stated multiple times in the thread. Right now. Auburn and Bama are top 10 type teams year in and year out and Michigan just isn't. I would like to find a year where all 4 teams were really good to use that as a base, while still acknowledging that OSU/Michigan is a noon game (by tradition not because ESPN doesn't want to make it later) while Auburn/Bama is usually 3:30
I wouldn't object to anyone saying Michigan/OSU is a broader rivalry. But I think the trend is, over the last couple of decades, toward AU/UA. Now very recently, with coaching changes, maybe there is some momentum the other direction.
UM/OSU is a legacy game. Most people I know tune in casually, out of habit and tradition, but not because it's likely to be must see football. The magnitude of the rivalry was upheld during down years in part because of a Big 10 bias from ESPN and sports media that largely grew up outside of the Southeast in an era where Big 10 football was arguably king.
I would agree that it is probably cyclical and we'll probably see some compelling UM/OSU games with a lot on the line. It just hasn't been that way recently. And with sports media increasingly obsessed with/biased toward the SEC, a declining media base for the BIG 10 (meaning the bias is sort of shaking off at this point), and regional changes on national influence, I think Auburn and Alabama will have a lot of arguments for #1 in the future.
As it stands, I think AU/UA is the most intense, most important and most intriguing game in the most important college football region in the country. To me, that would make it the biggest rivalry. I would be open to other definitions, and I'm also willing to acknowledge that the drama factor and importance factor for OSU/Mich could certainly rise.
Posted on 7/6/15 at 10:40 am to Pettifogger
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over the last couple of decades, toward AU/UA.
That is ignorant. Alabama had a LOSING decade prior to Saban. You are letting the last few years influence your thinking.
OSU and MI have national championships stretch back each of the last three decades.
Posted on 7/6/15 at 10:44 am to nebraskafaninwi
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OSU and MI have national championships stretch back each of the last three decades.
'97 and '02 are not each of the last three decades
This post was edited on 7/6/15 at 10:45 am
Posted on 7/6/15 at 10:46 am to NYCAuburn
Are you that dumb? Do you know when a new decade starts? How did you get through elementary school? You get pushed through the classes so you didn't get held back?
Posted on 7/6/15 at 10:47 am to NYCAuburn
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'97 and '02 are not each of the last three decades
Eh, 97, 2002 and 2014
I didn't like the way he said it. I mean Bama had titles in the 90s and 2000s and 2010s and Auburn has one in 2010.
Posted on 7/6/15 at 10:48 am to nebraskafaninwi
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Are you that dumb? Do you know when a new decade starts? How did you get through elementary school? You get pushed through the classes so you didn't get held back?
you might want to answer these questions yourself. but first why dont you go and see what the definition of decade is.
Posted on 7/6/15 at 10:50 am to Buckeye06
And that is my point....each has produced national titles the last three decades.
Alabama had a down period. Michigan is working to come out of a don period. Auburn had some terrible years. Ohio state had a 7 win season (I think).
Alabama had a down period. Michigan is working to come out of a don period. Auburn had some terrible years. Ohio state had a 7 win season (I think).
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