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re: Bigger Rivalry? Michigan and Ohio State or Auburn and Alabama?

Posted on 7/4/15 at 6:13 pm to
Posted by Bench McElroy
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 7/4/15 at 6:13 pm to
Clown question, bro.
Posted by SEC. 593
Chicago
Member since Aug 2012
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Posted on 7/4/15 at 6:26 pm to
Ohio State v. Michigan.
Posted by Tammany Tom
Mandeville
Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 7/4/15 at 7:22 pm to
Michigan - Ohio State by a landslide.

Those two teams have one, and only one, "true" rival.

Meanwhile, Alabama and Tennessee hold the entire confrence hostage to uphold their supposed "rivalry".

If Bama - Auburn was so freaking big, then Bama fans would not give a damn about preserving the UT rivalry so much.

Either you have one huge rivalry or two average ones. Bama has two average ones in UT and Auburn.
Posted by NorthGwinnettTiger
Member since Jun 2006
51880 posts
Posted on 7/4/15 at 7:33 pm to
WGAF?
Posted by sms151t
Polos, Porsches, Ponies..PROBATION
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 7/4/15 at 8:22 pm to
Michigan Ohio St and it's not close, especially in terms of history.
Posted by jlovel7
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2014
21544 posts
Posted on 7/4/15 at 9:29 pm to
I was at the 2013 Iron Bowl and the 2014 edition of The Game. The Iron Bowl tailgating stared easily before the sun was up. It was 9:00 before I saw anyone on Ohio State's campus and the game started at noon. Take that how you will.
Posted by AllBamaDoesIsWin
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 7/4/15 at 10:47 pm to
Not gonna read this whole thread. The nationwide consensus is probably the Iron Bowl. What this thread says may be something different, though. Both are great rivalries.
Posted by sta4ever
The Pit
Member since Aug 2014
15611 posts
Posted on 7/5/15 at 1:27 am to
So the conclusion I made is that LSU and Alabama is the biggest rivalry in College Football today. Auburn is relevant and competes with Bama every 3 or 4 years. Same can be said about Michigan. LSU competes with Bama every year and it goes down to the wire when they meet. Thanks Bama fans for finally admitting that we are your true rival
Posted by spacewrangler
In my easy chair with my boots on..
Member since Sep 2009
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Posted on 7/5/15 at 10:26 am to
MI v OSU is bigger, they have a large advantage on # of alumni and overall population in their states.

The iron bowl has been more important over the past decade, had a 5 year stretch where the winner played for the bcsncg, then the 6th year the winner made the cfpo. This year, if preseason predictions are on point, it should be a huge factor in the cfpo
Posted by tedmarkuson
texas
Member since Feb 2015
2592 posts
Posted on 7/5/15 at 10:32 am to
since so many people have moved from the hell hole that is the midwest, you find them dispersed throughout the country, everyone you meet in arizona is originally from the midwest, half my neighborhood in texas are Ohioans.

since the average southerner is born lives and dies within a 70 mile radius from his birthplace you don't find southerners dispersed around the nation.

so nationaly the oh/mi game is probably a bigger rivalry.
Posted by CrimsonChin
the gutter.
Member since Feb 2010
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Posted on 7/5/15 at 10:34 am to
Bama/Auburn is easily the most heated rivalry in America. I would even rank Bama/Tennessee with the Yankee rivalry.
Posted by wdeagle
Member since Jun 2014
126 posts
Posted on 7/5/15 at 10:57 am to
AU/bama, easy.
Posted by Gary Busey
Member since Dec 2014
33277 posts
Posted on 7/5/15 at 11:55 am to
OSU-Mich is like Lord Sidious and Yoda fighting. A great and powerful Sith Lord going up against one of the most powerful and wisest Jedi's. Alabama and Auburn are Obi Wan and Anakin Skywalker. Once before, very close friends, now torn between a betrayal and have epic light saber battles.

Damnit auburn. Why'd you have to go on and kill Padme.
Posted by tigerfan in bamaland
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Posted on 7/5/15 at 12:01 pm to
I live in this shite storm Bama/Auburn rivalry and work for a company that has an office in Columbus OH, so I have experienced OSU and Michigan, and Ohio/Michigan is nothing compared to Bama and Auburn, nothing I tell you.
Posted by MIZZOU_JP
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 7/5/15 at 1:24 pm to
39 out 50 states would say Michigan/Ohio. One state would say every rival is irrelevant outside of Texas/OU.
Posted by ljhog
Lake Jackson, Tx.
Member since Apr 2009
19136 posts
Posted on 7/5/15 at 1:32 pm to
It's a rotational thing. Right now it's Auburn/Bama. At one time it was UM/OhSt and it has been Texas/OK before.
ND/Michigan was big once too. But, the biggest of them all, the one that endured for generations is Army/Navy.
Posted by BigOrangeBri
Nashville- 4th & 19
Member since Jul 2012
12484 posts
Posted on 7/5/15 at 1:34 pm to
Historically, Michigan- Ohio State

Right now, bama - Auburn

Bama and Auburn took a long break. It think Michigan and OSU have played almost 40 more times
Posted by constant cough
Lafayette
Member since Jun 2007
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Posted on 7/5/15 at 4:47 pm to
Michigan and Ohio State
Posted by RazorBroncs
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Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 7/5/15 at 5:03 pm to
During the 1907 state legislature session, a debate surfaced to move the land-grant college from Auburn to Birmingham. Then later in that same session, the legislature approved the first appropriation to Auburn some 35 years after it first opened its doors, for a promised $800,000. The college only received a third of that appropriation, while the University of Alabama remained fully funded through the State Board of Education. The state legislature, still controlled by University of Alabama alumni, still appeared intent on letting Auburn "dry out".[7] Meanwhile, tensions carried over to the football rivalry when, after both 1906 and 1907 contests, Auburn head coach Mike Donahue threatened to cancel the series if Alabama head coach "Doc" Pollard continued employing his elaborate formations and shifts.[8] The series was suspended after the 1907 game. The official reasons being that the schools could not come to agreement over the amount of travel expenses to be paid to players, as well as from where officials for the game should be obtained.[9] It is also reasons that the University of Alabama halted the series in an attempt to further delegitimize the existence of Auburn.

Attacks on Auburn's existence continued by the legislature. In 1915, appropriations to Auburn were withheld, which continued at times through the 1930s.

In 1947 the Alabama House of Representatives passed a resolution encouraging the schools to "make possible the inauguration of a full athletic program between the two schools".[12] The schools were disinclined to resume the series despite the passage of the resolution, since it did not have the effect of law. However, the Alabama State Legislature threatened to withhold state funding from the schools unless they did resume the rivalry. With that threat in mind, Ralph B. Draughon, the president of Auburn and Alabama president John Gallalee decided during the winter and spring of 1948 to end the disagreement and renew the series.


TL;DR I know... Long story short, Bama refused to play Auburn for all those years because they didn't want to legitimize the institution. To that point, the Alabama government (consisting of mostly Alabama alumni) had tried every means possible to undercut and shut down Auburn, including cutting their state funding in half. They were literally forced by the Alabama House of Representatives to play eachother after that, with the threat of both institutions losing state funds if they didn't.

THAT sounds to me like a pretty heated rivalry, and just about the equivalent of tOSU and Michigan having a mini-war against eachother for a short time. This went on over the first 60 years of Auburn's existence.
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
20591 posts
Posted on 7/5/15 at 10:19 pm to
I'll go with Michigan-Ohio State on this. I'd go with the now-dead Nebraska-Oklahoma game over the Iron Bowl, too.

Alabama-Auburn is sort of like USC-UCLA to me. One team is historically a lot better than the other, they just happen to be playing for bragging rights in the state (or city, in the west coast game).
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