re: Does the SEC want the Sooners?

Sure, bring them into the West, send Alabama to the East and watch Auburn howl.

Do not want.

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Oklahoma brings no TVs to the table. That means more mouths to feed with no return on investment. The last round of realignment showed who is worth a shite in realignment and who is not. OU...NOT.

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While population/TV sets is certainly driving expansion in many ways, there are exceptions to every rule and OU is one of them. If you don't think OU brings viewers, you are blinding yourself by hate. Nebraska is a roughly equivalent state to Oklahoma and the Big Ten expanded there first over many other flagship schools with bigger populations (cough, Mizzou). This would be like arguing that the Big Ten or ACC won't expand for Notre Dame because there aren't enough viewers in northern Indiana.

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Last 10 seasons...

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8-4 / Russell Athletic, arse whipping by Clemson 6-40 (attendance 40K)
10-2 / Sugar Bowl, beat Alabama 45-31 (attendance 70K)
10-2 / Cotton Bowl, arse whipping by Texas A&M 13-41 (attendance 87K)
9-3 / Insight, beat Iowa 31-14 (attendance 54K)
11-2 / Fiesta, beat UNRANKED Uconn 48-20 (attendance 67K)
7-5 / Sun Bowl, beat Stanford 31-27 (attendance 54K)
12-1 / BCS game, got beat by Gators 14-24

The game against the Gators was with OU in a power conference that had a CCG, possibly the peak for the Sooners. Not like they have been burning up the bowl games since or killing attendance numbers. Sure, the Bama and TAMU games drew well but it was helped greatly by the other schools fans. The farther the B12 gets away from a CCG the less relevant they will be. In addition the more the footprint of the B12 shrinks, the more the corresponding coverage will be.

Again, not saying OU was not a power in the Big 12, because they were. Just saying with the defection of the upper teams from the B12 and not the lower ones, the conference (and hence its members) will decline over the next decade. With both AR and TAMU in the SEC the state of TX will be split for recruiting and OU may move to #4 behind austin and the 2 SEC schools.

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Sure, bring them into the West, send Alabama to the East and watch Auburn howl.

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If anyone goes to the East, it would be Auburn. Geographically speaking.

I really doubt that OU would be allowed to leave OK State in the wind. Okie state would have to have a stable situation for that to even happen.

You send Alabama or Auburn East and you lose either TSIO or DSOR.

Those are the two most important rivalries in the conference along with the Iron Bowl obviously.

It just won't happen.

We will go to no divisions with 3 rivals and 5 rotating games before we do that. Or 9 conference games.

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So how did Maryland get out of that again?

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The GOR was put in place after Maryland jumped ship. Maryland was suing to avoid paying the $50 million exit fee. Their argument was since they voted against it they were only required to pay the $15million exit fee that they voted for awhile back. IIRC

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Never say never. Especially for Va Tech, which the ACC spurned for years.

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Nothing happens until 2024 at the earliest and the SEC might just have to pull an ACC and wait 2 seasons for our new members in VT and NCST to arrive in 2026.

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What did I do? I think playing everyone in your conference is a better way of declaring a champion than having two divisions and a championship game. The championship game doesn't always feature the two best teams.

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I understand what you are saying man, and I don't disagree. This mentality (again I don't disagree with it) though is out dated as the current landscape to have a CCG is important for the playoffs. Plus, I believe it brings extra revenue to the conference by adding that game.

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Oklahoma is joined at the hip with Ok State, I don't think legislatures in Oklahoma would ever allow it.

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This point above is correct, it's a PACKAGE DEAL with OK. You cannot pick ou and anybody other than okie lite, period. Because of this alone, I don't see the state of OK coming to the SEC. This is big biz now. The SEC must go east to the states of VA and NC...yes, the GOR is in play. VA or NC > all of OK. It's all about population (TV sets) and a 16-team conference is coming. Five years ago things changed and there is more change coming eventually. Boren basically asked for change with his statement.

texass...if you play with turds, you get them on your hands. ou trusted texass, now look. Somebody earlier said "it's in their DNA". This could not be more true. I know a bunch of good folks in TX, but the Austin variety is not the same. They think that they are above all others. They are the type "the end justifies the means". It's pretty on paper but NOT worth it. Do NOT go there SEC. If you do, it will be regretted later. TX and OK are already watching the SEC Network, nothing to gain.