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re: Will there ever be a successful push to drop Ole Miss/Rebels?

Posted on 10/30/12 at 10:41 pm to
Posted by bayou2003
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Posted on 10/30/12 at 10:41 pm to
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Of course, they are likely voting for Romney just because he isn't black.


They throw around the term YANKEE but then support Romney/Ryan. Some TRUE Yankees that most likely look down upon their southern asses and culture. If they only knew how RICH Yankees feel about the south.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 10/30/12 at 10:43 pm to
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they always seem to sneer at the African Americans voting for him just because he is black. Of course, they are likely voting for Romney just because he isn't black.


As a black conservative, I too sneer at African Americans voting for obama just because he is black. Most without a thought to his politics or positions regarding anything. When 92% of a race almost literally block votes for a particular candidate, something is seriously wrong, in my opinion. And I'd feel the same way if the shoe were on the other foot. In my people voting for Obama or any other democratic candidate because "he's black," or "that's what we do," we have thrown away the invaluable right of suffrage and given up our free will for groupthink. That is extremely dangerous.
Posted by Duke
Twin Lakes, CO
Member since Jan 2008
35724 posts
Posted on 10/30/12 at 10:43 pm to
And we wonder why Ole Miss seems to be the epicenter of anything racial...look where this thread has gone.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 10/30/12 at 10:44 pm to
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You ended up going to ole miss.... tier 3

I went to Texas A&M... tier 1

Who is the dumb one here?




Dude, just stop
Posted by Daviskenn
Nashville
Member since Oct 2012
652 posts
Posted on 10/30/12 at 10:44 pm to
Very well said.

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In my people voting for Obama or any other democratic candidate because "he's black," or "that's what we do," we have thrown away the invaluable right of suffrage and given up our free will for groupthink. That is extremely dangerous.
This post was edited on 10/30/12 at 10:46 pm
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
80434 posts
Posted on 10/30/12 at 10:45 pm to
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And don't say states rights BS.


The indoctrination is strong in this one.

The "state's rights BS" as you call it, predates the Civil War. If you knew your American history you'd know that.

Google John Calhoun, Andrew Jackson, and South Carolina and get back to us.

Thus endeth the lesson.
Posted by TrueTexan
Texas
Member since Oct 2012
192 posts
Posted on 10/30/12 at 10:45 pm to
Tbird...

name one thing in that post that is wrong?

Is Texas A&M not tier 1? Is ole miss not tier 3?
Posted by Daviskenn
Nashville
Member since Oct 2012
652 posts
Posted on 10/30/12 at 10:47 pm to
You're embarrassing yourself....
Posted by GeauxWarTigers
Auburn
Member since Oct 2010
18046 posts
Posted on 10/30/12 at 10:48 pm to
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As a black conservative, I too sneer at African Americans voting for obama just because he is black. Most without a thought to his politics or positions regarding anything. When 92% of a race almost literally block votes for a particular candidate, something is seriously wrong, in my opinion. And I'd feel the same way if the shoe were on the other foot. In my people voting for Obama or any other democratic candidate because "he's black," or "that's what we do," we have thrown away the invaluable right of suffrage and given up our free will for groupthink. That is extremely dangerous.


I think you are slowly becoming one of my favorite people ever. The rationality and logic you use is beautiful. Perhaps I've just had my standards lowered due to living in Alabama, but these features seem to be lacking in most people around here. You are a breath of fresh air and give me slight hope for the human race.
Posted by 10888bge
H-Town
Member since Aug 2011
8421 posts
Posted on 10/30/12 at 10:48 pm to
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When 92% of a race almost literally block votes for a particular candidate, something is seriously wrong, in my opinion.

When a block of peoples vote one way it is due to similarities in experience from their standpoint. Reagan, Bush I, BushII all fricked over that economic class of citizens. You have a Gov. from a stat (Tx) that had to leave for a meeting when a young man was dragged down a street behind a truck. Reagan is given credit for ( just perception from said populous) for bringing crack into urban cultures. Also for seemingly supporting unconstitutional acts of aggression on lower income neighborhoods. The collective memories of peoples are long and unforgiving.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 10/30/12 at 10:48 pm to
Not saying your facts were wrong, TrueTexan. Welcome, btw

Just saying that throwing out school ranking smack to make your point about your intelligence in a debate is a poor tactic, that's all.
Posted by Duke
Twin Lakes, CO
Member since Jan 2008
35724 posts
Posted on 10/30/12 at 10:49 pm to
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name one thing in that post that is wrong?


It's not about being factually correct or not. It's about the pointless flaming about academics.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 10/30/12 at 10:49 pm to
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 10/30/12 at 10:53 pm to
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The collective memories of peoples are long and unforgiving.


I realize this, and I get where you're coming from.

The problem for me arises when people treat politics like sports. Always a dem, always a republican is loosely analogous to always a wolverine, always a buckeye. No matter what, nothing that comes from the other side can ever be wrong, and even if something does slip through the cracks, it's quickly discounted by holding it up against the prism of past behavior.

People (minorities in particular) need to put away these archaic views of politics and look with fresh eyes at each party, each candidate. Two black people on opposite ends of the economic and or social spectrum should not thoughtlessly fall into lockstep voting for a single party or a single candidate. I enjoy debating with liberals of all creeds about why they think the way they do, and what specifically makes them want to vote for a particular candidate. That's healthier than "well this party always this or always that," you know?
Posted by Duke
Twin Lakes, CO
Member since Jan 2008
35724 posts
Posted on 10/30/12 at 10:54 pm to
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Reagan, Bush I, BushII all fricked over that economic class of citizens.


A) Didn't realize all black people are poor.

B) The President isn't king, he has less power than you think he does. Congress, Local/State govs, and a plethora of other issues are a cause of the crippling poverty for the inner city poor. Yes the perception may be the (R) fricked them, but it isn't nearly that simple.

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The collective memories of peoples are long and unforgiving.


This is true, but what happens when that collective memory isn't the truth of the situation?

That being said, I fully understand why many black folks wouldn't vote for Romney. He seems to be the candidate for the affluent.
Posted by bayou2003
Mah-zur-ree (417)
Member since Oct 2003
17646 posts
Posted on 10/30/12 at 10:54 pm to
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As a black conservative, I too sneer at African Americans voting for obama just because he is black. Most without a thought to his politics or positions regarding anything. When 92% of a race almost literally block votes for a particular candidate, something is seriously wrong, in my opinion. And I'd feel the same way if the shoe were on the other foot. In my people voting for Obama or any other democratic candidate because "he's black," or "that's what we do," we have thrown away the invaluable right of suffrage and given up our free will for groupthink. That is extremely dangerous.


Holy shite!!! Finally met one. I'm a brotha too, not a conservative though.
Posted by Jefferson Dawg
Member since Sep 2012
31976 posts
Posted on 10/30/12 at 10:55 pm to
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Yes T. Jefferson was a slave owner. Is this the basis for your line of thought that the south should have been allowed to secede and have slaves to this day?

You're such an embarassing fool with this "slavery to this day" bullshite.......

Look. My "line of thought" is simply this........that the Southern STATES should have been allowed to decide for themselves how to handle the debacle of slavery..........just as the northern states were allowed to decide for themselves how to handle the issue of slavery. (Even though there were still slaves in many northern states during the war.)

I say with absolute certainty that there would be no slavery in the Southern states today even without a war. It's logical common sense if you have half a brain.

The bottom-line is that even though every other society around the globe found peaceful remedies for their slavery situations, you actually believe that it's legitimate that a war resulting in 600,000 dead people was NECESSARY to free american slaves?????

This is idiocy.

Does not compute. You've been brain-washed.

And it's heart-breaking......
Posted by Duke
Twin Lakes, CO
Member since Jan 2008
35724 posts
Posted on 10/30/12 at 10:56 pm to
quote:


The problem for me arises when people treat politics like sports. Always a dem, always a republican is loosely analogous to always a wolverine, always a buckeye. No matter what, nothing that comes from the other side can ever be wrong, and even if something does slip through the cracks, it's quickly discounted by holding it up against the prism of past behavior.




I couldn't agree more.

quote:


People (minorities in particular) need to put away these archaic views of politics and look with fresh eyes at each party, each candidate.


You had it right simply with people.

Posted by GeauxWarTigers
Auburn
Member since Oct 2010
18046 posts
Posted on 10/30/12 at 10:57 pm to
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When a block of peoples vote one way it is due to similarities in experience from their standpoint


A block of people is different than an entire ethnicity. The only "similar experience" they ALL share is that ethnicity.

Your argument might be valid if we were dealing with a demographic of low income families, single mothers, business owners, middle class families, etc. Those are all blocks that share things in common and are expected to share similar voting habits. An ENTIRE ethnicity does not fall into a single demographic and should not have such an outstanding majority voting a single way.
Posted by TbirdSpur2010
ALAMO CITY
Member since Dec 2010
134026 posts
Posted on 10/30/12 at 10:58 pm to
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Holy shite!!! Finally met one. I'm a brotha too


Damn, I had no idea! There are a few of us lurking around the Rant
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