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re: Surprising end of Harvey Updyke case leaves future trial in question
Posted on 6/21/12 at 1:50 pm to NorthGwinnettTiger
Posted on 6/21/12 at 1:50 pm to NorthGwinnettTiger
So, if I decide to rob someone while causing absolutely no personal harm, then I get caught and only have to pay a fine or restitution and do some community service?
NICE!
NICE!
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Posted on 6/21/12 at 1:52 pm to i am dan
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So, if I decide to rob someone while causing absolutely no personal harm, then I get caught and only have to pay a fine or restitution and do some community service?
Unless you decide that a fine and restitution is not something you think is fair. Then you can delay, and others will say that the D.A. should have just given you a suspended sentence to avoid costing tax payers money.
Posted on 6/21/12 at 1:53 pm to i am dan
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So, if I decide to rob someone while causing absolutely no personal harm, then I get caught and only have to pay a fine or restitution and do some community service?
NICE!
bigpapamac's world is gonna be FUN!
Posted on 6/21/12 at 1:54 pm to beatbammer
You ain't kiddin'!
Posted on 6/21/12 at 1:55 pm to beatbammer
Show me where I said anything of the sort. TIA.
Posted on 6/21/12 at 1:57 pm to i am dan
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if I decide to rob someone while causing absolutely no personal harm
You're a fricking idiot.
Posted on 6/21/12 at 2:22 pm to Robot Santa
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You're a fricking idiot.
Your a fricking idiot too! Gotcha back!
Apparently if you do no harm to anyone when you commit a crime, then you shouldn't get in trouble. That's what I get from people who say, "hey they're just trees. Nobody got hurt. Just give him a few hours of community service."
This post was edited on 6/21/12 at 2:25 pm
Posted on 6/21/12 at 2:24 pm to bigpapamac
SAVE THE TREES!!! When is Earth Day?
Posted on 6/21/12 at 2:37 pm to LewDawg
frick yo trees! 
Posted on 6/21/12 at 2:45 pm to banjeaux
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The Harvey Updyke trial came to a stunning conclusion before it had even started when Judge Jacob Walker ruled this morning that the jury pool was so tainted that it was impossible for Updyke to receive a fair trial.
Whats stunning or surprising about that? In the state of Alabama, theres pretty good odds that the jury will consist of a majority Alabama/Auburn fans. Bama fans want him to get a slap on the wrist and Auburn fans want him to hang in the streets at Toomer's corner.
Posted on 6/21/12 at 2:49 pm to i am dan
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i am dan
Surprising end of Harvey Updyke case leaves future trial in question
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Apparently if you do no harm to anyone when you commit a crime, then you shouldn't get in trouble. That's what I get from people who say, "hey they're just trees. Nobody got hurt. Just give him a few hours of community service."
Personally, I think that Harvey should do some time in jail.
But the only published report of a plea offer I have seen was the 13 years reported by ESPN. Some have said that wasn't accurate. I haven't seen any other offer reported. Obviously a 63 year old man isn't going to agree to 13 years. He has nothing to lose by fighting. It seems to me that the prosecution, if they truly want to use their time and taxpayer dollars efficiently while at the same time administering justice, needs to come up with a deal that the defense will accept. And no, that doesn't mean that the defense decides their punishment. It means that you do what is done in courtrooms every day in this country...offer the guy a reasonable deal that he will accept. And if he doesn't accept it, then you go to trial and throw the whole truckload at him and get the maximum sentence.
Posted on 6/21/12 at 2:50 pm to BamaGradinTn
quote:We don't know this hasn't happened and Harvey is on record saying he would rather die than go to prison.
offer the guy a reasonable deal that he will accept. And if he doesn't accept it, then you go to trial and throw the whole truckload at him and get the maximum sentence.
ETA: I agree that 13 years isn't a deal Harvey should take if indeed that is the offer.
This post was edited on 6/21/12 at 2:52 pm
Posted on 6/21/12 at 7:49 pm to WDE24
As a normal person and Auburn fan, I would like to see him get something like 6 months jail time and community service (heard his health was bad though), and a fine (the dumbass portion of Bama fans will raise the money for him).
I think this would appease all normal people.
I think this would appease all normal people.
Posted on 6/21/12 at 8:13 pm to bigpapamac
HU is an absolute dumbass. But this trial is a waste. Give him a gazillion hours of community service in Auburn, make him war an Auburn jersey, pay restitution, fine him, and be done with it.
Posted on 6/21/12 at 8:19 pm to JaboStokes
If they can find a jury in State College for Sandusky, they can find a competent Jury in Auburn... His own actions caused this continuance and should not be the reason for moving the trial..
I am sure the judge knows he did not handle the trial very well... He should have issued a gag order immediately and not allowed Updyke to speak while out on probation... No ESPN special, no Fbaum, etc...
I am sure the judge knows he did not handle the trial very well... He should have issued a gag order immediately and not allowed Updyke to speak while out on probation... No ESPN special, no Fbaum, etc...
Posted on 6/21/12 at 8:21 pm to allin2010
Leave Harvey alone...
What is the current condition of the trees?
What is the current condition of the trees?
Posted on 6/21/12 at 9:09 pm to gatorhead1013
13 years? Is that really what the prosecution offered?? I wouldn't take that deal either....over a tree? I think murderers have gotten less than that before.
3-6 months max, if that, is all that he deserves IMO. Some crimes are more severe than others, and this one is pretty small beans. I'm not even convinced he deserves jail time over this prank.
3-6 months max, if that, is all that he deserves IMO. Some crimes are more severe than others, and this one is pretty small beans. I'm not even convinced he deserves jail time over this prank.
This post was edited on 6/21/12 at 9:13 pm
Posted on 6/21/12 at 9:34 pm to JPLSU1981
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I'm not even convinced he deserves jail time over this prank.
Not that it really matters, because he did what he did, but the trees apparently are going to make it.
Posted on 6/21/12 at 9:37 pm to gatorhead1013
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Leave Harvey alone...
Posted on 6/21/12 at 10:03 pm to Funky Tide 8
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Not that it really matters, because he did what he did, but the trees apparently are going to make it.
This would make me happy. But I have no idea where you're getting such an idea from because I have heard no such thing.
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