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I’m so ready to see a normal offense in football. More excited than I’ve been in years.
Posted on 2/12/25 at 6:03 pm
Posted on 2/12/25 at 6:03 pm
The last two seasons just haven’t felt like Alabama football. It has felt like a weird fever dream.
I don’t even blame Jalen, he was doing what he was capable of.
So ready to be done with 10-12 QB runs a game.
I don’t even blame Jalen, he was doing what he was capable of.
So ready to be done with 10-12 QB runs a game.
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Posted on 2/12/25 at 6:09 pm to collegefootballisbroken
The only real concern I have is the offensive line. They have not looked good in the run game for a couple of seasons. I'd like to be able to establish some kind of threat there to supplement the passing attack.
Posted on 2/12/25 at 6:22 pm to Chris ALL Capps
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The only real concern I have is the offensive line. They have not looked good in the run game for a couple of seasons. I'd like to be able to establish some kind of threat there to supplement the passing attack.
The OL wasn’t getting great push, I just don’t know what was them vs what was defenses loading the box against Milroe because he couldn’t make adjustments.
When QB play hits a certain level of dysfunction a lot of other things start to break.
Posted on 2/12/25 at 6:22 pm to Chris ALL Capps
I do agree, but we also didn’t scare anyone enough through the air to pull their linebackers back. When we have a more consistent passing attack the running game will naturally look better.
Posted on 2/12/25 at 8:20 pm to collegefootballisbroken
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I don’t even blame Jalen
You should.
Posted on 2/13/25 at 8:04 am to tide06
The aggravating thing was we were losing man-on-man battles and when we weren't doing that we were outnumbered in the box because the defense wasn't afraid of the pass. 
Posted on 2/13/25 at 8:08 am to collegefootballisbroken
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don’t even blame Jalen, he was doing what he was capable of.
He was doing what a jr high qb is capable of.
Not making any adjustments at the line, not going through his progressions, not seeing the defense, and taking off running to get most of his big plays. And then making it all about him every game. Basic Junior High QB level shite.
I remember our QB in jr high. Early puberty + being held back, so he thought he was the greatest athlete in the world. Obnoxious and a dickhead. Grew up to be a roofer and has two ex wives. Anybody ever had a different story or is that how they all work out?
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Posted on 2/13/25 at 9:21 am to SECSolomonGrundy
But it is the coach's fault for keeping him in there when it was more than obvious he needed to be pulled.
Posted on 2/13/25 at 9:34 am to NWLA_Bama
I think yall may be mad about how little the RBs will be involved next year.
Posted on 2/13/25 at 9:51 am to JIB
I don't know that anyone is expecting to see tailbacks tote the ball 30 times a game in DeBoer's offense, it's going to be pass oriented, but what I want to see is the RBs used more effectively.
I'm just looking forward to seeing a cohesive, well-executed offense on all levels. I think we will.
I'm just looking forward to seeing a cohesive, well-executed offense on all levels. I think we will.
Posted on 2/13/25 at 9:54 am to InkStainedWretch
Posted on 2/13/25 at 10:01 am to JIB
I expect a pass/run ratio of 60/40 which is about what DeBoer/Grubb have historically done. However, any coach worth their salt adapts and adjusts as they go through their career. Last year was DeBoer's first year in the SEC and there's no way he didn't see a difference in coaching in the SEC compared to the PAC 12 or anywhere else he's been. So I'm curious if he thinks he needs to establish the run a little more than he's traditionally done or will he continue with his 60/40 ratio?
Posted on 2/13/25 at 10:14 am to JIB
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I think yall may be mad about how little the RBs will be involved next year.
You don’t have one damn clue about how much the running backs will be used.
Posted on 2/13/25 at 10:23 am to bamatide07
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You don’t have one damn clue about how much the running backs will be used.
But it's not like his opinion is unfounded. He was told last year to run the ball more, but didn't, which is apparently one of the reasons he got fired.
Posted on 2/13/25 at 10:56 am to bamatide07
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You don’t have one damn clue about how much the running backs will be used.
Judging from history Deboer's offense doesn't use the RBs as much as Bama fans are used to. In 2023 Washington was 131st in rushing attempts per game. In 2022 they were 118th. At Fresno they were 102nd in 2021 and 89th in the truncated 2020 season. As OC at Indiana in 2019 they were 84th. As OC at Fresno in 2018 they were 99th.
So saying no one has a clue is just asinine. Past performance predicts future performance.
Posted on 2/13/25 at 11:05 am to JIB
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Judging from history Deboer's offense doesn't use the RBs as much as Bama fans are used to. In 2023 Washington was 131st in rushing attempts per game. In 2022 they were 118th. At Fresno they were 102nd in 2021 and 89th in the truncated 2020 season. As OC at Indiana in 2019 they were 84th. As OC at Fresno in 2018 they were 99th.
It is true their rushing attempts ranked low compared to the rest of the country, but they still produced a 1,000 yard rusher with 16 rushing td's. So though the attempts were low, the offense produced a lot of bang for the buck in the attempts they had.
Posted on 2/13/25 at 11:21 am to NWLA_Bama
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It is true their rushing attempts ranked low compared to the rest of the country, but they still produced a 1,000 yard rusher with 16 rushing td's. So though the attempts were low, the offense produced a lot of bang for the buck in the attempts they had.
Their 2nd leading rusher had 201 yards and 1 TD. They were insanely top heavy. Justice Haynes, Bama's 3rd leading ball carrier, had 448 yards and 7 TDs. In 2023 Jam Miller was the 4th leading ball carrier and he had 201 yards and 1 TD.
I'm not saying the offense won't be good but don't expect to see a lot from the 2nd and 3rd guys if history is any indication.
That said, Deboer usually had an experienced QB running his offense that he could trust. He won't have that this fall. His first year at Fresno as HC and earlier as an OC he had a first year QB and they weren't super effective - each passing for 14 TDs and 5 INTs. But the next year they threw for 25/5 and 33/9.
I think we need to reset expectations and treat this more like year 1 than we probably want to. The Milroe season was just a wash.
Posted on 2/13/25 at 11:24 am to Funky Tide 8
I dug back on carries and yards for RBs under DeBoer historically(as a HC or OC post Sioux Falls), and most of his better teams had a higher emphasis on passing and not a lot of "bellcow" RBs with great stats.
2023 Washington(14-1), 2015 EMU(1-11), and 2011 SIU(4-7) were the only times for a single RB under DeBoer to have over 200+ carries in a season, and 2019 Fresno State(4-8) was the last time the offense ran more than they threw (386 to 373).
The offense lives and dies by a 4K passer and a 2-3 headed RB room getting around 100 carries each.
2023 with Dillon Johnson seems to be an outlier, as they really didn't have much after him in the RB room. The 2nd leading rusher had 44 carries to Johnson's 233. For reference, Alabama's 2nd leading rusher in 2024 was Jam Miller, who had 145 carries.
2023 Washington(14-1), 2015 EMU(1-11), and 2011 SIU(4-7) were the only times for a single RB under DeBoer to have over 200+ carries in a season, and 2019 Fresno State(4-8) was the last time the offense ran more than they threw (386 to 373).
The offense lives and dies by a 4K passer and a 2-3 headed RB room getting around 100 carries each.
2023 with Dillon Johnson seems to be an outlier, as they really didn't have much after him in the RB room. The 2nd leading rusher had 44 carries to Johnson's 233. For reference, Alabama's 2nd leading rusher in 2024 was Jam Miller, who had 145 carries.
Posted on 2/13/25 at 11:32 am to SECSolomonGrundy
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He was doing what a jr high qb is capable of. Not making any adjustments at the line, not going through his progressions, not seeing the defense, and taking off running to get most of his big plays. And then making it all about him every game. Basic Junior High QB level shite. I remember our QB in jr high. Early puberty + being held back, so he thought he was the greatest athlete in the world. Obnoxious and a dickhead. Grew up to be a roofer and has two ex wives. Anybody ever had a different story or is that how they all work out?
Yep that has been my experience, we had one that thought he could truck anyone and in practice he would get mad if you laid him out.
Last I heard he’s in a mental home because he basically kidnapped his last girlfriend and hid out in a motel because he thought the Government was after him.
Posted on 2/13/25 at 12:19 pm to JIB
I don’t care how many rushing attempts we have. I care that when we do run the ball it’s effective and efficient, and that this offense scores points instead of wasting wide-open plays.
This post was edited on 2/13/25 at 12:21 pm
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