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The problem isn’t NIL. The problem is no forced player commitment to teams
Posted on 1/11/25 at 9:51 am
Posted on 1/11/25 at 9:51 am
Pay the players. Who cares? It’s always been done.
But if they are getting paid like the “real world” then they need to honor contracts like the real world. There should be a rule that, if a player accepts money, they cannot transfer from that school for so many years and cannot go pro before their junior year
The “no penalty” transfer portal with no “salary cap” and no commitment is what is really killing NCAA football.
It’s a free for all unlimited free agency for all the richest teams.
But if they are getting paid like the “real world” then they need to honor contracts like the real world. There should be a rule that, if a player accepts money, they cannot transfer from that school for so many years and cannot go pro before their junior year
The “no penalty” transfer portal with no “salary cap” and no commitment is what is really killing NCAA football.
It’s a free for all unlimited free agency for all the richest teams.
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Posted on 1/11/25 at 9:53 am to theunknownknight
You mean go back to the way it was?
Posted on 1/11/25 at 9:53 am to theunknownknight
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But if they are getting paid like the “real world” then they need to honor contracts like the real world. There should be a rule that, if a player accepts money, they cannot transfer from that school for so many years and cannot go pro before their junior year
what? people change jobs for money every day in the "real world".
Posted on 1/11/25 at 9:54 am to theunknownknight
Restructure the contracts, make them performances based and have the next school buy it out.
If another school wants to touch this kid, they have to buy out the remaining contract.
If another school wants to touch this kid, they have to buy out the remaining contract.
This post was edited on 1/11/25 at 10:02 am
Posted on 1/11/25 at 9:54 am to tBrand
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what? people change jobs for money every day in the "real world".
Not real world NFL.
Keep up.
Posted on 1/11/25 at 9:59 am to theunknownknight
Allowing 1 transfer per player unless you graduate then 1 more. That would begin to contain it. Then some kind of salary cap with player tax forms available for review to a new governing committee.
Posted on 1/11/25 at 10:02 am to tBrand
That’s what has fans so butt hurt, the illusion that this is more than a job for these players and that college football is somehow “different” than and not subject to the same rules as any other jillion dollar business has been destroyed. And it was always an illusion.
The only way to rein this in is for the players and schools to come to a mutual and collective agreement where players agree to stay for a certain amount of time, probably 2 years, but the schools in turn will have to agree not to break that agreement on their end unless there’s serious misconduct by the players.
But the fact that the OP used “forced” in his headline and the fact that there’s talk about some “college football commissioner” riding to the rescue and imposing things on the players (any commissioner would absolutely be subject to the court decisions that have created this) confirms my belief that there is an element of college football fans who view players as gladiators performing for the entertainment of the fans and get off on dictatorial coaches channeling R. Lee Ermey in Full Metal Jacket doing their thing to players in practice and on the sidelines and who think fans are by far the most important entity in this stuff and aren’t going to share that with mere players even though they are the ones actually putting their asses on the line in this stuff.
The only way to rein this in is for the players and schools to come to a mutual and collective agreement where players agree to stay for a certain amount of time, probably 2 years, but the schools in turn will have to agree not to break that agreement on their end unless there’s serious misconduct by the players.
But the fact that the OP used “forced” in his headline and the fact that there’s talk about some “college football commissioner” riding to the rescue and imposing things on the players (any commissioner would absolutely be subject to the court decisions that have created this) confirms my belief that there is an element of college football fans who view players as gladiators performing for the entertainment of the fans and get off on dictatorial coaches channeling R. Lee Ermey in Full Metal Jacket doing their thing to players in practice and on the sidelines and who think fans are by far the most important entity in this stuff and aren’t going to share that with mere players even though they are the ones actually putting their asses on the line in this stuff.
This post was edited on 1/11/25 at 10:04 am
Posted on 1/11/25 at 10:04 am to theunknownknight
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The “no penalty” transfer portal with no “salary cap” and no commitment is what is really killing NCAA football.
Before you harm yourself, keep this in mind. The solution is not hard to talk about at this stage. Greed, by the adults in the room, is making it impossible to accomplish.
Think Pac 12 and there's your answer.
Posted on 1/11/25 at 10:06 am to InkStainedWretch
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confirms my belief that there is an element of college football fans who view players as gladiators performing for the entertainment of the fans
This is stupid
Gladiators weren’t paid millions and “over-protected” by helmets and rules to make sure they couldn’t get hurt
The current rules don’t promote “college football”. They promote players being mercenaries.
Posted on 1/11/25 at 10:16 am to theunknownknight
So? Again, it was all an illusion. And what we have now was inevitable once this became a jillion dollar business. When hawgs are at the trough reaping millions, and coaches bugging out every time Jimmy Sexton whistles, the players were not going to be content with scholarships and no freedom of movement anymore.
The sport has changed and it’s not going back. You can watch or not watch. Dirty little secret: Unless you’re 18 to 49, the powers that be really don’t care if you watch.
The sport has changed and it’s not going back. You can watch or not watch. Dirty little secret: Unless you’re 18 to 49, the powers that be really don’t care if you watch.
This post was edited on 1/11/25 at 10:18 am
Posted on 1/11/25 at 10:17 am to tBrand
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what? people change jobs for money every day in the "real world".
Because they don't have employment contracts that prohibit this.
Most professional sports do.
Posted on 1/11/25 at 10:18 am to Mr Sausage
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You mean go back to the way it was?
Essentially, but with a widely held legal employment model rather than the fake, completely invalidated amateurism model with poor and prejudicial enforcement that mostly comes down to other "cheaters" snitching.
This post was edited on 1/11/25 at 10:19 am
Posted on 1/11/25 at 10:19 am to Aggie in TN
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Restructure the contracts, make them performances based and have the next school buy it out. If another school wants to touch this kid, they have to buy out the remaining contract.
Ok. Go tell your NIL collective or donors to do that, then.
Posted on 1/11/25 at 10:20 am to theunknownknight
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Not real world NFL. Keep up.
NFL has no say in endorsements.
Keep up.
Posted on 1/11/25 at 10:21 am to jonnyanony
And that’s the fix for this but there’s a crowd that will resist it because it will further destroy the illusion, they just want these uppity players to mind their elders and all will be well.
Posted on 1/11/25 at 10:22 am to InkStainedWretch
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So?
What do you mean by “So?”
Your entire final premise is faulty. We aren’t just “fans cheering for gladiators”
We are fans cheering for schools and kids who play and attend the same schools. Sure there were under the table payments, but the players had tons of options and would choose the school and opportunities they wanted and commit to them (because transferring used to cost them)
Now, they can go openly to the highest bidder at any point, even after “committing”.
My point obviously flew over your head. The NFL doesn’t even do this for this very reason.
Posted on 1/11/25 at 10:22 am to pankReb
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NFL has no say in endorsements.
They do to some extent, part of morality clauses.
But the difference is we don't use NIL for actual endorsements in college football. With contracts most of the NIL disappears for the purpose of recruitment.
Posted on 1/11/25 at 10:22 am to InkStainedWretch
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When hawgs are at the trough reaping millions, and coaches bugging out every time Jimmy Sexton whistles, the players were not going to be content with scholarships and no freedom of movement anymore.
This. The players are just catching up to the coaches. Somehow the outrage isn’t equal when coaches jump ship for millions.
Posted on 1/11/25 at 10:23 am to pankReb
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NFL has no say in endorsements.
What? Are you slow? Endorsements can be had anywhere for (almost) any reason. An endorsement doesn’t void a contract. These aren’t even in the same category.
This post was edited on 1/11/25 at 10:25 am
Posted on 1/11/25 at 10:24 am to theunknownknight
There are very few actual endorsements in NIL. It's almost exclusively a lure.
Fix the underlying problem by a draft and contracts (2 year minimum) and NIL mostly goes away. There'll still be some but it will be for actual NIL.
Fix the underlying problem by a draft and contracts (2 year minimum) and NIL mostly goes away. There'll still be some but it will be for actual NIL.
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