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Posted on 1/1/25 at 2:02 pm
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
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Posted on 1/1/25 at 2:02 pm
I totally understand him being pissed but to fall out and lose control of his emotions is not a good quality in a Leader. Frankly, imo, he acted like a kid
Posted by GamecockUltimate
Columbia,SC
Member since Feb 2019
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Posted on 1/1/25 at 9:20 pm to
I disagree, he stood up for his guys when an opposing coach came over to talk shite to a whole sideline


that said, we could all go in circles on this. Illinois and Brett can suck a fat one.
Posted by Lonnie Utah
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Posted on 1/1/25 at 9:24 pm to
Beamer was off yesterday. For the past 24 hours or so I've thought something else external to football was bugging him.
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
13935 posts
Posted on 1/2/25 at 1:24 am to
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disagree, he stood up for his guys when an opposing coach came over to talk shi


As former military I can guarantee you that I would prefer a leader that kept his cool and didn't lose it than a overly emotional man. You can stand up for your guys without flipping out. Do you honestly believe someone in charge can think straight while totally losing your mind when a opponent makes a sign and fricks with you in a competition.
Posted by Lonnie Utah
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Posted on 1/2/25 at 8:34 am to
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As former military I can guarantee you that I would prefer a leader that kept his cool and didn't lose it than a overly emotional man.


To quote/praphrase the venerable Rudyard Kipling...

quote:

If you can keep your head when all about you,
Are losing theirs and blaming it on you,
Posted by GamecockUltimate
Columbia,SC
Member since Feb 2019
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Posted on 1/2/25 at 12:03 pm to
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As former military I can guarantee you that I would prefer a leader that kept his cool and didn't lose it than a overly emotional man. You can stand up for your guys without flipping out. Do you honestly believe someone in charge can think straight while totally losing your mind when a opponent makes a sign and fricks with you in a competition.


i mean many successful coaches lose their minds...Coach K, Nick Saban, Dawn Staley, bobby cox.

I mean thats fine to disagree, you want a stoic coach who is calm and non reactive there is zero wrong with that. We did score right after that and I think maybe the thought around beamer would be different if we had gotten a defensive stop after and run away with it.


It will all be water under the bridge if Shane can have a successful offseason and keep pushing forward
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
13935 posts
Posted on 1/2/25 at 12:11 pm to
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you want a stoic coach who is calm and non reactive there is zero wrong with that. We did score right after that and I


Never said stoic. He can get mad and get the team pumped but running on the field and having to be restrained because another coach taunted you is not what I would expect from the Head man. People follow their leader and going into battle being flipped out mentally is a script for failure.

I guess you would have had to be in the military to understand where I'm coming from.
This post was edited on 1/2/25 at 12:13 pm
Posted by theGarnetWay
Washington, D.C.
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 1/3/25 at 5:34 pm to
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Beamer


1. Should just learn to kick/punt the fricking ball and stop trying to outsmart everyone on ST because of his last name.
2. I generally like that he's emotional and you can tell he really cares about his players and the team. But that game it looked more like he let IL/Bert get in his head and that absolutely cannot happen as an HC.
This post was edited on 1/3/25 at 6:56 pm
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
13935 posts
Posted on 1/3/25 at 7:53 pm to
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Should just learn to kick/punt the fricking ball and stop trying to outsmart everyone on ST because of his last name.
2. I generally like that he's emotional and you can tell he really cares about his players and the team. But that game it looked more like he let IL/Bert get in his head and that absolutely cannot happen as an HC.


He has had the "Beamer Ball" drilled in his head he thinks it's mandatory to do something stupid every game. If we would have taken the 2 field goals we would have won.

If you lose you mind and run on insane anger you will make mistakes. It's the exact reason the Jedi won out over the Sith in the end.
Posted by RoyalAir
Detroit
Member since Dec 2012
6609 posts
Posted on 1/8/25 at 1:53 pm to
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we would have taken the 2 field goals we would have won


In his defense, Herrera has been an adventure this year. I don't blame Shane's lack of confidence in his PK.
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
28518 posts
Posted on 1/8/25 at 3:58 pm to
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I don't blame Shane's lack of confidence in his PK.


But I do blame him for not getting a kicker in the Portal after Jeter hit the portal...
Posted by theGarnetWay
Washington, D.C.
Member since Mar 2010
26735 posts
Posted on 1/8/25 at 5:50 pm to
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In his defense, Herrera has been an adventure this year. I don't blame Shane's lack of confidence in his PK.


Sure, but statistically Herrera would've probably gotten at least one of those and would've changed the complexion of the game.

And it's not just Herrera. Think of all the other fakes we've done with punts and KOs. I don't mind a good fake, I just feel like we overdo it because it's like some kind of Beamer calling card.
This post was edited on 1/8/25 at 7:03 pm
Posted by Cockopotamus
Member since Jan 2013
15801 posts
Posted on 1/9/25 at 12:09 pm to
The only bad one I remember was ole Miss.

The fake to Tonka was there Kroger just threw a bad ball
Posted by GamecockUltimate
Columbia,SC
Member since Feb 2019
8131 posts
Posted on 1/9/25 at 3:00 pm to
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The fake to Tonka was there Kroger just threw a bad ball


absolutely. the play call was great. It probably should have been PI potentially.
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
13935 posts
Posted on 1/10/25 at 4:34 am to
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absolutely. the play call was great. It probably should have been PI potentially.


And yet it helped to us losing. If we would have taken the 3, and from where the kick was from it was basically a gimme, it would have changed the game. Running trick play game after game can send a signal that you don't think your team can win straight up. Lil Shane has this " Beamer Ball" in his head.
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
28518 posts
Posted on 1/10/25 at 9:13 am to
^^ I think you're both right. I don't have a problem with the call in a bowl game because it's supposed to be fun. But SOS is right that the smart play it to take the points.

Both games this year where "Beamer ball" bit us in the butt had the same thing in common. Both of the "trick plays" happened early in the game. Vs Ole Miss, I don't think there was a single person that DIDN'T know we were going to try a fake punt. The turnover on downs ended up spiraling out of control for the rest of the game.

I think the point I'm trying to make here is that going forward Beamer should try to get a little insurance in the bank before getting cute...
Posted by goodshotred2
Columbia, SC
Member since Aug 2013
323 posts
Posted on 1/11/25 at 7:23 pm to
I like Beamer and his energy is what is needed in today's game, but he needs to mature a bit and get his emotions under control. The fake vs Ole Miss was incomprehensible. It felt like he was trying to win a dick showing contest with Kiffin and he lost. We had a great defense; play the field position game. Instead, he handed the ball to an explosive offense with a short field and it had a major impact on the game for the players and fans. Bielema played him like a fiddle.
Posted by GamecockUltimate
Columbia,SC
Member since Feb 2019
8131 posts
Posted on 1/12/25 at 2:26 am to
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I like Beamer and his energy is what is needed in today's game, but he needs to mature a bit and get his emotions under control. The fake vs Ole Miss was incomprehensible. It felt like he was trying to win a dick showing contest with Kiffin and he lost. We had a great defense; play the field position game. Instead, he handed the ball to an explosive offense with a short field and it had a major impact on the game for the players and fans. Bielema played him like a fiddle.


going at him for the ole miss game is more than fair.

but we scored after bert came over and taunted us. I still don't think anything in that game was wrong. The kids just didnt make the plays but the calls were there...even the fake FG was there. The kids were put in a position to succeed and just didnt. It happens.
Posted by SOSFAN
Blythewood
Member since Jun 2018
13935 posts
Posted on 1/12/25 at 5:41 am to
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but we scored after bert came over and taunted us. I still don't think anything in that game was wrong. The kids just didnt make the plays but the calls were there...even the fake FG was there. The kids were put in a position to succeed and just didnt. It happens.


We lost because of Beamer Ball, which is a coaching decision. Had we taken the higher statistical play ie.. field goal ,twice, in the game we would have won.

The kids like Beamer and I like his youthful energy at times but his outburst was immature as hell and instead of gathering the team and settling everyone down he chose chaos.
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