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Posted on 12/15/24 at 9:24 am
Posted on 12/15/24 at 9:24 am
I don’t think that’ll ever work. Loading up on the cream of the portal cycle. Yeah they’ll get up for a big game or two, but those rosters won’t win a championship. The teams who do it right are currently in the playoff. They have a record of developing their recruited high school talent and then supplementing needs in the portal with guys who fit their scheme and culture. Texas hasn’t signed any “can’t miss portal player” unless there was a previous connection to the staff or the program.
Posted on 12/15/24 at 9:27 am to EastTXHorn
Thanks captain obvious. No fricking shite. If Lane could land top 5 HS classes at OM he would. But it’s impossible, so we have to find talent in the portal. It isn’t hard to figure out.
Posted on 12/15/24 at 9:28 am to EastTXHorn
They gotta change quick before they go into rapid decline
Posted on 12/15/24 at 9:29 am to HottyToddy7
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But it’s impossible
The hell you say?

Posted on 12/15/24 at 9:32 am to EastTXHorn
Dude we are Ole Miss. It's not the place kids dream of going out of high school. Most kids outside of the deep south haven't even heard of OM. It takes a lot of money to convince a young kid from out of state to move to shite hole Mississippi.
I wish we could do it the traditional way but thats not OM's reality. Paying for transfers is the only way Ole Miss can compete with the bluebloods like Texas, Georgia, Ohio State, and Bama.
And last time I checked we beat Georgia and last year we didnt. I'd say Ole Miss on the right path but not there yet. Yall lost to Georgia twice so you aren't doing anything special.
I wish we could do it the traditional way but thats not OM's reality. Paying for transfers is the only way Ole Miss can compete with the bluebloods like Texas, Georgia, Ohio State, and Bama.
And last time I checked we beat Georgia and last year we didnt. I'd say Ole Miss on the right path but not there yet. Yall lost to Georgia twice so you aren't doing anything special.
This post was edited on 12/15/24 at 9:43 am
Posted on 12/15/24 at 9:32 am to SingleMalt1973
Never came close to a top 5 class.
Posted on 12/15/24 at 9:35 am to EastTXHorn
I think you can build everything but an offensive line through the portal. The OL is the one place that you need traditional development.
Posted on 12/15/24 at 9:35 am to lockthevaught
And State was too dumb (Cohen) and disorganized in football to pursue similar strategy.
This post was edited on 12/15/24 at 7:12 pm
Posted on 12/15/24 at 9:43 am to HottyToddy7
This seems pretty god damn close ..
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Ole Miss signed four consecutive top-20 recruiting classes from 2013-17, as ranked by 247Sports. That run included two top-10 hauls – the No. 8 class in 2013 and the No. 5 class in 2016. The 2013 class alone featured five five-star players, including No. 1 national recruit Robert Nkemdiche.
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Posted on 12/15/24 at 9:46 am to SingleMalt1973
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This seems pretty god damn close ..
And Freeze ended up with multiple violations and we spiraled until Lane came in.
The model Lane is using has us closer to competing for a title than 95% of OM football history. This year will be telling. We are losing the majority of production on both sides of the ball. Under the HS model - we would be heading into a 1-2 year rebuild. With the portal, we may be closer to a reload than a rebuild.
Posted on 12/15/24 at 9:49 am to EastTXHorn
Didn’t you sign Ewers from portal?
Posted on 12/15/24 at 9:54 am to OleVaught14
I think the goal is to use the portal to have 2-3 more really good seasons and at that point you )'have 8 years of ole miss being a top 10-15 team and more nfl players saying they went to ole miss. At that point you have hs kids who grew up watching ole miss, liking lane's style of coaching, liking all the jersey combos ( yes I know it's stupid) etc..: getting that brand recognition for all these kids and then you can go up against a bama, lsu etc... for a hs kid from New Jersey, California etc that wants to play in the sec
Posted on 12/15/24 at 9:54 am to lockthevaught
quote:We did it multiple times in the last 11 years.
wish we could do it the traditional way but thats not OM's reality.
Posted on 12/15/24 at 9:56 am to OleVaught14
The problem isn’t that Kiffin can’t get top 10 HS classes to OM. He chooses not to by going after big portal classes every year. Most big time HS recruits want immediate playing time. They don’t want to come in only to have a dude from the portal with 2 years left to take their spot. It’s a terrible mode, for building culture.
Posted on 12/15/24 at 9:57 am to SingleMalt1973
Kiffin avoided making inroads with high school coaches when he first got to Ole Miss and it pissed a bunch of them off. He didn’t start really trying to develop those relationships until year 3-4. It’s finally starting to pay off this year
Posted on 12/15/24 at 9:58 am to AlonzoHarris
it can work long term for us. Look at it this way...
You're paying big money deals to 25 freshman....and of those how many will see the field next year. Add that to the 25 you signed last year...how many of those saw the field in 2024..how many of them will see the field in 2025.
So in 4 years of paying big money like now..if you were able to have a max roster of 85 players...can you imagine how much money you'd have sunk into highschool kids that aren't contributing.
Ole miss can spend 60% of our money on our starters and spend 40% on the rest of the players and put 22 equivalent or better players on the field. Depth will differ, but it was always going to differ...Bama always has a 5 star on the bench.
You're paying big money deals to 25 freshman....and of those how many will see the field next year. Add that to the 25 you signed last year...how many of those saw the field in 2024..how many of them will see the field in 2025.
So in 4 years of paying big money like now..if you were able to have a max roster of 85 players...can you imagine how much money you'd have sunk into highschool kids that aren't contributing.
Ole miss can spend 60% of our money on our starters and spend 40% on the rest of the players and put 22 equivalent or better players on the field. Depth will differ, but it was always going to differ...Bama always has a 5 star on the bench.
Posted on 12/15/24 at 10:02 am to Henry Jones Jr
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We did it multiple times in the last 11 years.
We also paid players to make that happen, we just did it illegally back then.
I also worry about retaining HS kids at Ole Miss.
Quinshon Judkins was a traditional HS recruit.
Wouldn't be surprised to see someone snag Perkins either.
This post was edited on 12/15/24 at 10:10 am
Posted on 12/15/24 at 10:02 am to SingleMalt1973
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Most big time HS recruits want immediate playing time. They don’t want to come in only to have a dude from the portal with 2 years left to take their spot. It’s a terrible mode, for building culture.
So they're gonna go to Alabama or Georgia or Clemson or Notre Dame....
....where they can start right away?

I mean. That shite doesn't make any sense at all.
Or to follow your logic to its conclusion. A high school star who wants immediate playing time can go to a lower tier school and start right away. And then attract a big NIL deal from someplace like Ole Miss.
Which seems to indicate that you're making our point for us...
Posted on 12/15/24 at 10:25 am to OU Guy
Hello had connections to the program. He was always going to Texas. It also wasn’t like he was some established college player, he took three snaps in Columbus. Sark still had to develop an 18 year old QB when he stepped on campus.
This post was edited on 12/15/24 at 10:27 am
Posted on 12/15/24 at 10:29 am to EastTXHorn
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don’t think that’ll ever work. Loading up on the cream of the portal cycle. Yeah they’ll get up for a big game or two, but those rosters won’t win a championship. The teams who do it right are currently in the playoff. They have a record of developing their recruited high school talent and then supplementing needs in the portal with guys who fit their scheme and culture. Texas hasn’t signed any “can’t miss portal player” unless there was a previous connection to the staff or the program.
In this year's CFP, Indy is the Ole Miss model. Look at their roster - loaded with xfers. They will crumble against real competition in the CFP, just like they did in the regular season against the only tough team they played. OM was up and down all year for much the same reasons - you've got a bunch of guys playing together for the first or second time, and they don't play as a team. They can jump up and beat a UGA, who was beat down from a #1 SOS season, then turn around and lose to anyone.
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