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re: Josh Pate stated SEC is looking for a reason to burn the CFP down.
Posted on 11/21/24 at 12:14 pm to llfshoals
Posted on 11/21/24 at 12:14 pm to llfshoals
I’m seriously annoyed Notre Dame is getting a pass. A&M is a good win, but the rest of their schedule is trash. They need to be told to join a conference or else.
Their overall SOS is lower than Boise St. imagine if they had gotten, say, Florida or Auburn this year instead of A&M.
Their overall SOS is lower than Boise St. imagine if they had gotten, say, Florida or Auburn this year instead of A&M.
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Posted on 11/21/24 at 12:18 pm to WG_Dawg
The B1G played the following P5 teams out of conference
SEC (1-3)
- Texas (L)
- Alabama (L)
- LSU (W, L)
ACC (2-3)
- North Carolina (L)
- Duke (L)
- Virginia (W)
- Virginia Tech (W)
- Boston College (L)
B12 (3-0)
- West Virginia (W)
- Kansas (W)
- Colorado (W)
P12 (1-2)
- Washington St (L)
- Oregon St (W, L)
- Notre Dame (L) (0-1)
They have 1 OOC game left - USC/Notre Dame. They, as a league, are 7-9 against P5 teams with their best win being Colorado or LSU.
The Playoff Contenders played the following OOC games
- Akron (OSU)
- Western Michigan (OSU)
- Marshall (OSU)
- West Virginia (PSU)
- Bowling Green (PSU)
- Kent State (PSU)
- FIU (Indiana)
- Western Illinois (Indiana)
- Charlotte (Indiana)
1 P5 opponent between the 3 of them - a 5-6 West Virginia team.
SEC (1-3)
- Texas (L)
- Alabama (L)
- LSU (W, L)
ACC (2-3)
- North Carolina (L)
- Duke (L)
- Virginia (W)
- Virginia Tech (W)
- Boston College (L)
B12 (3-0)
- West Virginia (W)
- Kansas (W)
- Colorado (W)
P12 (1-2)
- Washington St (L)
- Oregon St (W, L)
- Notre Dame (L) (0-1)
They have 1 OOC game left - USC/Notre Dame. They, as a league, are 7-9 against P5 teams with their best win being Colorado or LSU.
The Playoff Contenders played the following OOC games
- Akron (OSU)
- Western Michigan (OSU)
- Marshall (OSU)
- West Virginia (PSU)
- Bowling Green (PSU)
- Kent State (PSU)
- FIU (Indiana)
- Western Illinois (Indiana)
- Charlotte (Indiana)
1 P5 opponent between the 3 of them - a 5-6 West Virginia team.
Posted on 11/21/24 at 12:33 pm to SummerOfGeorge
quote:And they are about to be rewarded for it.
1 P5 opponent between the 3 of them - a 5-6 West Virginia team.
If it goes down the way the first rankings have been done this year every single SEC team should cancel every remotely difficult looking p5 game for next year.
Posted on 11/21/24 at 12:41 pm to SemperFiDawg
I realize as a TN fan this looks biased at this point. But ive been saying this all along. Playoffs are STUPID for college fb. Ruins regulsr season importance, kills bowls all together. BUT if it they just have to have playoffs. Bring back the BCS. Take top 12 teams no matter what. This conference champ automatic bid, and best shitty team automatic bid is a joke. All co f are not created equal.
Posted on 11/21/24 at 12:56 pm to oleyeller
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Playoffs are STUPID for college fb
A 4, MAYBE 6, team playoff is perfectly fine. I mean logically speaking there are almost always going to be more than 2 teams that after 13 games has a case to call themselves champ
quote:
Ruins regulsr season importance
This 12 team version certainly does, I hate it.
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This conference champ automatic bid, and best shitty team automatic bid is a joke.
agree. It's ridiculous.
Posted on 11/21/24 at 12:58 pm to SemperFiDawg
Pate is the next gen Paul who wants to pretend he has mass insider sources.
Posted on 11/21/24 at 1:07 pm to SummerOfGeorge
quote:I assumed there were some B1G non-con games I had just forgotten about.
The B1G played the following P5 teams out of conference
This is ridiculous. Not to mention the losses to the SEC have been blowouts. LSU let SC off the fricking hook and that is the only win vs. an SEC school.
Indiana is a great story, but they are about to be out of the playoff discussion. Oregon's OOC is solid, and kudos to them for keeping the Civil War as an OOC game and playing a very tough G5 school.
I don't see how the B1G gets anything more than 3 bids.
Posted on 11/21/24 at 1:08 pm to Che Boludo
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Do away with auto-bids. Just rank the top 12 and let them play it out. Reward the top 4 with the bye and the next 4 with homefield 1st round. That would be a start.
This is the best solution as long as they use bcs ranking and take personal bias out of it. Some will always exist but a "committee" of humans with inherent bias sucks.
Posted on 11/21/24 at 1:09 pm to SemperFiDawg
Now , they are handing out participation trophies
Posted on 11/21/24 at 1:16 pm to HottyToddy7
This is what is coming. SEC will stay at 16 teams for payout reasons. There will be 4 regional pods with the winner of each region playing in a 4 team SEC playoff.
East ~ Fl, Ga, USC, UK
SE ~ Tn, Vandy, Bama, UA
SW ~ Ark, LSU, Miss, Miss St
West ~ Miz, OU, Tex, Gomer
This will bring in bigger or equal ratings to a playoff.
This year ~ UGA vs Bama / Miss vs Tex/Gomer
East ~ Fl, Ga, USC, UK
SE ~ Tn, Vandy, Bama, UA
SW ~ Ark, LSU, Miss, Miss St
West ~ Miz, OU, Tex, Gomer
This will bring in bigger or equal ratings to a playoff.
This year ~ UGA vs Bama / Miss vs Tex/Gomer
This post was edited on 11/21/24 at 1:20 pm
Posted on 11/21/24 at 1:53 pm to 2300 Nueces
Not a chance. That format would be guaranteed to eliminate SEC teams from playoff consideration, adding games to no benefit.
Not to mention the divisions are shite the way you have it.
Not to mention the divisions are shite the way you have it.
Posted on 11/21/24 at 2:31 pm to WG_Dawg
I agree that the new 12 team format has ruined the importance of the regular season (and to a lesser extent the conf championship games), on the other hand we are getting more high quality cfb games and I am here for it, hell I hope they just keep expanding the playoffs. I also like the idea of of an eventual SEC/BIG only super-league with regional subdivisions that mirror the original small conferences. Things are likely never going back to the golden days, we may as well embrace the future.
Posted on 11/21/24 at 2:50 pm to HorninHouston
Exactly. Bring back the BCS. Just because you have a playoff doesn't mean you need a committee of morons to rank the teams. Just inviting conspiracy theories and outrage.
Posted on 11/21/24 at 4:30 pm to HorninHouston
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This is the best solution as long as they use bcs ranking and take personal bias out of it. Some will always exist but a "committee" of humans with inherent bias sucks.
The BCS had a human element in the coaches poll and the Harris Poll (replaced the AP).
I don't mind keeping the Committee poll, and would prefer it to the Coaches and AP as a factor. Give the Committee poll the weight of BCS era human polls, make the computer algorithms transparent and add back the weighted computer portion.
This post was edited on 11/21/24 at 4:31 pm
Posted on 11/21/24 at 4:45 pm to Landmass
[quote]The SEC seems to be against any further expansion.[/quote
It won't be 'expansion.' It will be break away from the NCAA and the CFP to run the super league.
It won't be 'expansion.' It will be break away from the NCAA and the CFP to run the super league.
Posted on 11/21/24 at 5:13 pm to SemperFiDawg
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My question is, "To what end?" Where does the SEC envision it going? What would be their end game?
16 team playoff like they wanted from the get-go .... with a SOS qualifier for at-large programs such as ND.
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