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Defensive Line Shift/Delay of Game
Posted on 9/15/24 at 9:42 pm
Posted on 9/15/24 at 9:42 pm
I’m extremely confused on this new rule. It seems like LSU gets called for it one time, then the next it’s a false start.
I think I saw Georgia shift 3x where Kentucky committed a false start, and no delay of game was caused on any of these plays.
No clue what’s going on and I have a feeling the SEC refs don’t either.
Edit: Georgia shifted a lot, but only time resulted in a Kentucky false start. No delay of games though for Georgia that I can see.
I think I saw Georgia shift 3x where Kentucky committed a false start, and no delay of game was caused on any of these plays.
No clue what’s going on and I have a feeling the SEC refs don’t either.
Edit: Georgia shifted a lot, but only time resulted in a Kentucky false start. No delay of games though for Georgia that I can see.
This post was edited on 9/16/24 at 3:00 pm
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Posted on 9/15/24 at 9:43 pm to okietiger
Seems like LSU has been called for it in every game this year
Posted on 9/15/24 at 9:46 pm to okietiger
Honestly between what’s a catch, targeting and now what’s offsides vs what’s delay of game, we have ruled this sport into oblivion. It’s extremely frustrating to watch now
Posted on 9/15/24 at 9:47 pm to labamafan
I could get if the Dl shifts last second to create a false start because it’s too loud to hear snap counts now but why call it delay of game? It’s terribly confusing.
Posted on 9/15/24 at 9:49 pm to labamafan
It’s like the balk rule in baseball. If an umpire deems it deceiving they can call it.
Posted on 9/15/24 at 9:52 pm to okietiger
Wait until the lenient PIs don't transfer
Posted on 9/15/24 at 9:53 pm to labamafan
You could scramble all of the LSU delay of game/false start plays, and I would have no clue which is which.
Not great.
Not great.
Posted on 9/15/24 at 10:06 pm to okietiger
Every single rule in the rule book favors the offense. Let the defense make adjustments at the line of scrimmage. Offenses do hard counts to try to draw the defense offsides all the time, and that's acceptable. Why can't the defense be allowed to do the same shite?
Posted on 9/15/24 at 10:10 pm to deeprig9
Because defense key is ball, not snap count. Besides this is not football 50 yrs ago. It’s so loud you can’t hear snap count. Most of the time we see a neutral zone infraction is always the idiot closest to the ball it seems.
Posted on 9/15/24 at 10:12 pm to labamafan
Anybody watching Texans vs Chicago. There must not be targeting in NFl because I’ve see three monster hits that would be targeting in CFB and probably a 3 game suspension the hit is so violent.
Posted on 9/15/24 at 10:17 pm to labamafan
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Because defense key is ball, not snap count. Besides this is not football 50 yrs ago. It’s so loud you can’t hear snap count. Most of the time we see a neutral zone infraction is always the idiot closest to the ball it seems.
So why should a defensive line get called for a penalty on a shift?
Posted on 9/15/24 at 10:19 pm to okietiger
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I’m extremely confused on this new rule. It seems like LSU gets called for it one time, then the next it’s a false start.
and the time it was a false start....none of our offensive linemen even moved...
Its a stupid rule. Let the linemen jump around. It's becoming too confusing for the officials
Posted on 9/15/24 at 10:42 pm to GamecockUltimate
Yeah the false start seemed liked the most “text book” of all.
I’m befuddled and the refs are too.
I’m befuddled and the refs are too.
This post was edited on 9/15/24 at 10:43 pm
Posted on 9/16/24 at 2:19 am to okietiger
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I think I saw Georgia shift 3x where Kentucky committed a false start, and no delay of game was caused on any of these plays.
Kentucky was called for 4 penalties during the game, only 1 was a false start and it wasn’t due to a line shift.
Maybe that’s what you thought you saw, but the play by play is available.
Posted on 9/16/24 at 3:21 am to deeprig9
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So why should a defensive line get called for a penalty on a shift?
UGA, of all fan bases, should know why this became a penalty. You guys mastered it last year causing offensive lines to jump offsides all season.
Don’t get me wrong…..I’m not hating on it. That was a masterful strategy and it absolutely killed key drives.
Posted on 9/16/24 at 5:30 am to pankReb
The slightest twitch is a false start.
These are 300+ pound guys. Adjusting their weight should be allowed as long as they do not establish a new position. It’s like a golf ball “oscillating” instead of moving.
These are 300+ pound guys. Adjusting their weight should be allowed as long as they do not establish a new position. It’s like a golf ball “oscillating” instead of moving.
Posted on 9/16/24 at 5:58 am to okietiger
LSU flirts with the defensive shift/delay of game line. In the USCe game the 1st penalty was delay of game because the defense all move with a jerk up and to the side like the ball was snapped.
The 2nd time they moved sideways with out the up jerk and the offense moved.
It’s a fine line and it’s a stupid rule. If you are on the offensive line you should know when the ball is snapped.
The 2nd time they moved sideways with out the up jerk and the offense moved.
It’s a fine line and it’s a stupid rule. If you are on the offensive line you should know when the ball is snapped.
Posted on 9/16/24 at 6:12 am to Milk
How can anyone say a defense did it last second when the d doesn't know the snap count?
Posted on 9/16/24 at 6:14 am to Nado Jenkins83
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How can anyone say a defense did it last second when the d doesn't know the snap count?
Offenses can be pretty routine with their snap counts. It's pretty easy to get the hang of timing if an offense keeps the same cadence and tempo.
That's also the reason why a good hard count works. Get the defense used to anticipating the snap and then hit them with a hard count.
Posted on 9/16/24 at 6:22 am to okietiger
They need to figure it out. You can have the exact same situations happen during a game, and it seems like it is almost arbitrary who will be penalized. The defensive line will all shift and a lineman will jump. They will huddle and decide on the call.. The next time the exact same thing will happen and they will call it against the other side. It is like they know something isn’t right, but they aren’t sure what. They will blow the whistle and then figure out which side they are going to penalize. They need to clarify it or do away with it.
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