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re: Jalen Milroe. The Sobering Truth From an NFL Scout...

Posted on 7/20/24 at 7:03 pm to
Posted by Marktastic86
Pismo Beach, CA
Member since Dec 2020
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Posted on 7/20/24 at 7:03 pm to
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But Daniels was very hesitant in 22 and it threw all the timing off. in 23 he just let it rip and the rest is history.
Milroe seems to have a chip on his shoulder about being a pocket passer that Daniels didn't (JD was already a good passer.) He's even said so in an interview I believe, in response to something Bill O'Brien said about his limitations.

If he can get past that and get anywhere close to Daniel's decisiveness as a runner, he would truly be a nightmare for every DC he faces.
Posted by skrayper
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Member since Nov 2012
31528 posts
Posted on 7/20/24 at 7:03 pm to
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As we saw with Kiffin and Blake Sims, there's only so much an OC can do with a severely limited QB.


...

Make the playoffs?
Posted by BasedCrimson
Member since Jun 2024
352 posts
Posted on 7/20/24 at 7:04 pm to
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People would have said the same thing about Jayden Daniels before last year and he won the Heisman and got drafted first.

Not me. After watching him beat Alabama, I knew the kid was a badass.

JD was one of the scariest QBs I've ever seen Alabama face. He reminded me of Deshaun Watson in that the game was never over as long as he was under center.
Posted by Marktastic86
Pismo Beach, CA
Member since Dec 2020
13721 posts
Posted on 7/20/24 at 7:05 pm to
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Make the playoffs?

Then forget Derrick Henry was averaging 8 ypc literally every time he touched the ball against Ohio State?
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
69779 posts
Posted on 7/20/24 at 7:07 pm to
Daniels has always been decisive when he chooses to run.

His issue was he wouldn’t trust his reads.

He would throw to the right guy, but late.

So he was constantly behind on timing routes and guys hat to slow down or stop to make the catch. and deep balls he would just let them outrun him and not throw.
Posted by TizzyT4theUofA
This side of eternity
Member since Jun 2016
10390 posts
Posted on 7/20/24 at 7:18 pm to
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Make the playoffs?


Thank you Amari Cooper!
Posted by FreedomBarefoot
42° parallel
Member since Aug 2016
1749 posts
Posted on 7/20/24 at 7:23 pm to
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Here is a definitive breakdown I pulled from an NFL Scout:


Change your title to former/failed NFL Scout
This post was edited on 7/20/24 at 7:31 pm
Posted by BasedCrimson
Member since Jun 2024
352 posts
Posted on 7/20/24 at 7:30 pm to
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Change your title to former NFL Scout

Posted by BamaRoo
Shitlingthorpe, UK
Member since Jul 2009
3489 posts
Posted on 7/20/24 at 7:50 pm to
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Dare you to post that on BamaOnLine


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I already did a few weeks ago. And yeah, there are some hardcore Milbros on that site

Try TideFans and you'll be executed at sunrise
Posted by AlterDWI
Pattern Noticing, Alabama
Member since Nov 2012
3105 posts
Posted on 7/20/24 at 8:17 pm to
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doesn't matter at this point. Going into 19, Burrow was assumed late round, and Tua #1.
Certainly no one had Daniels at 2, going into last season.


Pretty telling that other fanbases( who Milroe has beat) defend him against Bama fans who treat him like he's a bum.

I dont know why our fans have this need to talk about him like he's a tomato can.
Posted by Smokey Okie
Member since Jul 2024
700 posts
Posted on 7/20/24 at 8:53 pm to
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"As much as it pains my heart, I have no choice but to move Milroe down on my 2025 NFL Draft Board.


Why would it pain the heart of an NFL scout to provide a strictly analytical appraisal of a football player? Isn't that their job?

Why the need for the "pains my heart" qualifier? I mean, that almost sounds as if he is a close personal friend of Milroe or his family.

I read the person's bio and he didn't seem to be affiliated with Alabama in any way whatsoever, even as a fan as far as could be determined.

It's odd that it would personally wound him in such a horrific and detrimental way to simply do what he has done probably 10 thousand times, which is give an honest report.

I wonder what is going on?
This post was edited on 7/20/24 at 8:54 pm
Posted by AlterDWI
Pattern Noticing, Alabama
Member since Nov 2012
3105 posts
Posted on 7/20/24 at 9:07 pm to
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I wonder what is going on?


Maybe he sees how Bama fans talk about him like he's a piece of shite even though he works his arse off everyday to do everything right.
Posted by Smokey Okie
Member since Jul 2024
700 posts
Posted on 7/20/24 at 9:15 pm to
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Maybe he sees how Bama fans talk about him like he's a piece of shite even though he works his arse off everyday to do everything right.


It personally affects a grown man's heart, a vital organ in a human body, to write up a report on a football player while that is, or was, his actual job?

You feel that NFL scouts base their analytical analyses on the finicky whims of public opinion/message board bloviations/radio talk show call-ins?

There has to be more to his cringe conciliatory modifier of "pains my heart". Evidently Jalen Milroe means a great deal to him both emotionally and mentally. But why?
Posted by GeekedUp
Virginia
Member since Jun 2009
2011 posts
Posted on 7/20/24 at 9:17 pm to
Bout right
Posted by TouchdownTony
Central Alabama
Member since Apr 2016
10174 posts
Posted on 7/20/24 at 9:42 pm to
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Maybe he sees how Bama fans talk about him like he's a piece of shite even though he works his arse off everyday to do everything right.


Nobody is saying he doesn't work hard. He is a great kid, great teammate, loves his coaches but that's not the bottom line. His throwing motion i slow, reads are horrible, holds the ball too long and a Bama QB that can't hit 10 yd routes shouldn't be out there.
Had Bama had Carson Beck last season they win the title. I know the center had his issues but the only reason games like Auburn came down to the last play was his skipping passes to receivers, throwing behind the back on a swing route that resulted in a loss. crossing the got damn line of scrimmage by 5 yds then throwing and throwing 3 yds behind a receiver who was open on a 15 yd dig route. Bama beat Arkie, LSU, Ms State and UGA last season because of his legs. I honestly see him in the NFL as a TE or RB where I think he would shine. I can't stand Bill O'Brien but he was right about him. In all due respect to Coach Saban, the Bama program had dropped off a lot in the last couple years. He got away from what made him great and started trying to be all fun n gun, explosive plays, scoring quick and the program suffered. No defense. The 2011, 2012 or 2013 Bama team would have beaten last years Bama team by 4 TD's.
Posted by AlterDWI
Pattern Noticing, Alabama
Member since Nov 2012
3105 posts
Posted on 7/20/24 at 9:46 pm to
I don't know what ya'll are driving at.

This guy gives a very fair assesment of Milroe's draft prospects at this time. I imagine he couches his criticism bc many people have Milroe as a potential Heisman candidate(not Bama fans). Milroe is one of the most likeable & popular players leading up to this season so it seems it "pains his heart" to give him a less than stellar grade.
Posted by Bigbens42
Trussvegas
Member since Nov 2013
6693 posts
Posted on 7/20/24 at 9:48 pm to
I think practically all of Milroe’s flaws are coachable though. He’ll definitely be a project.
Posted by TideTurf
Member since Sep 2009
3252 posts
Posted on 7/20/24 at 9:54 pm to
Milroe has 10X the athletic ability of Penix. If DeBoer can get Milroe to perform in that same vein with his athleticism, Bama will stand on some teams nuts.
The offense really has to be on point out of the gate.
Posted by TN Tygah
Member since Nov 2023
4249 posts
Posted on 7/20/24 at 10:03 pm to
Because he is garbage. It was obvious. He is not good.

A slight upgrade from Jordan Jefferson.

College Football ‘25 put him at 93, which just goes to show you that everyone is overestimating Bama because of their run from 2009-2017 and their fool’s gold from last year.

He is garbage. Bad.
Posted by Chad4Bama
Member since Sep 2020
6064 posts
Posted on 7/20/24 at 10:32 pm to
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He is garbage. Bad.


Yet will beat Corndog U...again.

Truth is, Milroe did not end last season strong. If he's the same QB he was during the last 3 games of last season he won't be the starter by the time LSU comes along. The 4th down pass for the win vs Auburn kinda overshadowed he didn't have a good game. Same vs Georgia...a couple of big scramble plays, but he did not have a good game. No doubt he has a lot to prove. We'll see.
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