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Posted on 10/15/24 at 4:18 pm to pankReb
Posted on 10/15/24 at 4:18 pm to pankReb
Different Amos. Rashad Amos is the 230 lb 1000 yd rushing power back we brought in and yet refuse to play for some reason. Trey Amos is the corner and was worth every penny.
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Posted on 10/15/24 at 7:50 pm to Friskie_Dingo69
Yall remember when we refused to use Dexter McCluster at RB until mid season after several bad losses then he killed it the rest of the way
Posted on 10/15/24 at 8:07 pm to umrebel2009
^^^ Very well.
Posted on 10/15/24 at 9:18 pm to Insideradvantage
We were so good that year too. I will never forget Houston Nutt refusing to use Dexter McCluster.
Posted on 10/16/24 at 9:19 am to Ancient Astronaut
Lucky for me, I got extremely sick on Sunday and just now am getting back to life. It made me not really care if we won or lost so that loss didn't sting like it should have. What I have noticed is that our offensive game plan is if you mixed some David Cutcliffe play calls with some Phil Longo play calls. It's a very basic offense of back yard "get open" football (Longo) and run up the middle on 2nd and long even though you haven't been able to run up the middle successfully all night (Cutcliffe). Our players are really good but our play calling has turned into about 4 or 5 plays and that's it. If a team can learn how to stop those 4 or 5 plays, we can't move the ball.
I don't know why we run such a simple offense when last year we excelled at a much more complex scheme.
I don't know why we run such a simple offense when last year we excelled at a much more complex scheme.
This post was edited on 10/16/24 at 9:25 am
Posted on 10/16/24 at 11:18 am to Landmass
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Our players are really good but our play calling has turned into about 4 or 5 plays and that's it. If a team can learn how to stop those 4 or 5 plays, we can't move the ball.
Which is why our opponents are able to make adjustments and end up stymying our offense later in games which wears out our defense leading to losses.
Ultimately this falls all on Boy Moron (AKA CWJr) and our OL and RB coaches which have done less with more. I want to see what happens at the end of the year.
Posted on 10/16/24 at 11:26 am to ABearsFanNMS
I mean no, it falls on Kiffin. He’s the head coach and he’s hired these people multiple times now and continues to employ them despite sub par results. My question is what is he actually spending his time doing? It sure as hell isn’t recruiting and it sure as hell isn’t offensive game planning. Our “offensive guru” is allowing this to happen and has been for 7 weeks now. If he’s handed off all coaching/gameplanning/ recruiting to the staff and is spending his time on Twitter and making tik toks with his daughter, why are we paying this dude 9 million a year?
This post was edited on 10/16/24 at 11:28 am
Posted on 10/16/24 at 11:40 am to Friskie_Dingo69
This season is definitely a bust. The goal was to make the 12 team playoff, and we had a weak schedule that was setup to get us there. We have 2 losses that never should have happened. Piss poor offensive play calling along with having the wrong personnel playing (not starting Bentley)... I have no clue what Kiffin has been thinking, but he's done a poor job this year.
Posted on 10/16/24 at 11:47 am to Friskie_Dingo69
I feel the need to break down your post.
Correct. The buck stops with him because he is the head coach.
This is where I wholeheartedly disagree. He's definitely recruiting. They aggressively recruit and there's a lot more focus on recruiting than any previous staff that's been here, with the exception of maybe Freeze. You have no idea how many staffs we have had that spend no effort on recruiting. They would simply take whoever ended up signing. As for game planning, defense is knocking it out of the park. The offense, on the other hand, hasn't changed a single thing. That's the problem.
Like it or not, he's a public figure. When it's humming along nicely, everyone cheers this on. When times are challenging, this is what people focus on. I don't see how this matters at all, except to positively affect recruiting and help identify with these younger kids.
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I mean no, it falls on Kiffin. He’s the head coach and he’s hired these people multiple times now and continues to employ them despite sub par results
Correct. The buck stops with him because he is the head coach.
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My question is what is he actually spending his time doing? It sure as hell isn’t recruiting and it sure as hell isn’t offensive game planning.
This is where I wholeheartedly disagree. He's definitely recruiting. They aggressively recruit and there's a lot more focus on recruiting than any previous staff that's been here, with the exception of maybe Freeze. You have no idea how many staffs we have had that spend no effort on recruiting. They would simply take whoever ended up signing. As for game planning, defense is knocking it out of the park. The offense, on the other hand, hasn't changed a single thing. That's the problem.
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If he’s handed off all coaching/gameplanning/ recruiting to the staff and is spending his time on Twitter and making tik toks with his daughter, why are we paying this dude 9 million a year?
Like it or not, he's a public figure. When it's humming along nicely, everyone cheers this on. When times are challenging, this is what people focus on. I don't see how this matters at all, except to positively affect recruiting and help identify with these younger kids.
Posted on 10/16/24 at 1:30 pm to Landmass
quote:Eh. I would say definitely Freeze and probably Coach O
They aggressively recruit and there's a lot more focus on recruiting than any previous staff that's been here, with the exception of maybe Freeze.
Posted on 10/16/24 at 1:31 pm to Friskie_Dingo69
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I mean no, it falls on Kiffin
Hopefully he gets everything right during the bye but the play calling and RB rotation are the two glaring issues plaguing the team and should have been addressed much earlier.
The fact that he’s so ho hum about it is what has everyone riled up.
Posted on 10/16/24 at 4:31 pm to Pickle_Weasel
Last year there were about 4 or 5 games where the ball bounced our way (LSU was one of those games). The 23 team needed that to have success. This team is different and is capable of winning every game left even with bad bounces. If that were to happen then we will probably still sneak into post season play. The last time we did that we landed a NATTY in baseball. This path to glory would equally qualify as epic WAOM and, therefore, is also just a likely to happen at this point (with or without a certified BobLeeDagger dream prediction). I will be roaming around in this area at least until we loose again.
Full Monty has spoken.
Full Monty has spoken.
Posted on 10/16/24 at 5:10 pm to Fullmonty
Last year we were 4-0 in games decided by one score or less.
This year we're 0-2.
Those wins are the best, but those losses are the worst.
I see nothing different the next two weeks - the OU and Hawgs games are going to be close.
This year we're 0-2.
Those wins are the best, but those losses are the worst.
I see nothing different the next two weeks - the OU and Hawgs games are going to be close.
Posted on 10/16/24 at 7:02 pm to Henry Jones Jr
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Eh. I would say definitely Freeze and probably Coach O
Coach O ran them off quicker than he could sign them.
Freeze recruited well on offense but was terrible at recruiting defense.
This post was edited on 10/16/24 at 7:03 pm
Posted on 10/17/24 at 9:51 am to Landmass
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Freeze recruited well on offense but was terrible at recruiting defense.
I disagree.
Freeze recruited well pretty much everywhere but OL.
It was a different time back then (and man, do we all miss it), but Freeze landed some great defensive players in addition to the offensive talent we were known for:
Denzel Nkemdiche (2nd team all SEC)
Mike F'in Hilton (2nd team all SEC)
Trae Elston (1st team all SEC)
John Youngblood (Chucky Mullins Award winner)
Robert Nkemdiche (1st team all SEC, 2nd team all American)
Tony Conner (2nd team all SEC)
Marquis Haynes (2x 2nd team all SEC, Ole Miss all-time leader in sacks)
Breeland Speaks (2nd team all SEC)
Benito Jones (2nd team all SEC)
Demarquis Gates (led Rebs in tackles from 2015 - 2017)
Tony Bridges (very good corner in 2015)
Posted on 10/17/24 at 11:25 am to Tornado Alley
Freeze's biggest problem is his inability to get top assistants to join his staff.
He was (and still is) having to hire assistants who are a reach. Sure some grow into the role and are fine, but for being a SEC head coach his staffs are always terrible.
Top assistants do not want to work under him, and it leads to issues.
He was (and still is) having to hire assistants who are a reach. Sure some grow into the role and are fine, but for being a SEC head coach his staffs are always terrible.
Top assistants do not want to work under him, and it leads to issues.
Posted on 10/17/24 at 12:55 pm to Tornado Alley
OK, but my point wasn't ever to really compare Freeze to Kiffin on recruiting, and I said that Freeze was the exception. The poster mentioned that Lane isn't recruiting, which is simply untrue. Kiffin is a very aggressive recruiter and my point was that you wouldn't believe how many staffs we have had here that simply did nothing on the recruiting front.
Posted on 10/17/24 at 1:16 pm to Landmass
To be fair, Houston Nutt was extremely busy having Sexton connect his name to other jobs so he could extort yearly raises
Posted on 10/17/24 at 3:41 pm to umrebel96
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To be fair, Houston Nutt was extremely busy having Sexton connect his name to other jobs so he could extort yearly raises
This is a common theme among Sexton clients. The problem is that
1. We hired Nutt in the first place
AND
2. We wanted to keep him
Posted on 10/17/24 at 3:42 pm to umrebel96
To be fair, Houston Nutt was extremely busy having Sexton connect his name to other jobs so he could extort yearly raises
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it's not slowing Lane down
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it's not slowing Lane down
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