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Another analyst looking at future Vol rookies, not impressed with the UTK offense....

Posted on 4/24/24 at 8:30 am
Posted by koreandawg
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Posted on 4/24/24 at 8:30 am
Graham Barfield

At 5.44 YC per carry, Wright scores in the 80th percentile all time. I don’t grade on a curve, but his creative ability really does stand out in this group. Wright is a rare breed of speed, power, and elusiveness – he can win all three ways. He has explosive speed to the edge to blast by defenders, and then he can consistently churn his legs forward for 2-3 extra yards.

The thing is, Tennessee’s offense isn’t real. Sorry, Vols fans! Their spread-based attack heavily uses condensed WR splits and bunch formations to the wide side of the field, resulting in one of the most contrived offenses that I’ve ever seen. This is not an excuse for Wright at all, but instead, it offers an important bit of context.

Overall, Wright saw six or fewer defenders in the box on exactly 80% of his carries. That’s unreal. You can nearly count on one hand how often he saw eight or more defenders stacked (9% of the time). As a result, Wright saw nearly 2.0 yards blocked every time he took a carry — the second-best mark in the class.

I believe he will face a learning curve at the next level just to get used to a “normal” offense. The good news is that he’s very young – Wright just turned 21 years old.
Posted by DirtyCreekBottoms
Member since Mar 2024
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Posted on 4/24/24 at 8:33 am to
Lmfao. You think we care what this clown thinks? He also said that Jalin Hyatt was a system WR (whatever tf that is) ....no Hyatt is just really really freakin fast and good.

Whoever gets Wright is getting a gem. He has a huge motor and never stops driving his legs ...sees the hole and blasts through it zero hesitations....he gashed UGA this year as well.
Posted by koreandawg
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Member since Sep 2015
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Posted on 4/24/24 at 8:36 am to
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He also said that Jalin Hyatt was a system WR (whatever tf that is)


Uhmmm

17 games, 23 receptions, 373 yards, 0 TDs on a team hungry for a decent WR and still starving evidently.

Some think they will draft Nabers with their first pick.
Posted by Faurot fodder
Member since Jul 2019
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Posted on 4/24/24 at 8:38 am to
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The thing is, Tennessee’s offense isn’t real.


That's a bit much. It isn't real sustainable, I will say that.
Posted by BigScoreboard
Member since May 2021
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Posted on 4/24/24 at 8:40 am to
Who's Graham Barfield?
Posted by BlindedMeWithScience
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Posted on 4/24/24 at 8:48 am to
Posted by meansonny
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Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 4/24/24 at 9:16 am to
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Whoever gets Wright is getting a gem. He has a huge motor and never stops driving his legs ...sees the hole and blasts through it zero hesitations....he gashed UGA this year as well.


Then why did the Tennessee offense only score 1 TD at home against the Dawgs this season?
Why did the Tennessee offense only score 1 TD against UGA last season?
Why did the Tennessee offense only score 2 TDs at home against UGA in 2021?

I haven't even brought up junk time, yet, when UGA plays the 2nd and 3rd stringers so they can prepare film for the following offseason workouts.

Is Heupel a dumbass who can't score more than 1 TD with a gem of a RB?
Or is the "system" not all it is cracked up to be.

Hell... Heupel had more success against UGAs defense as an OC at Missouri than he ever has while at Tennessee. Maybe it is the uniforms and band that suck.
Posted by bamameister
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Posted on 4/24/24 at 9:23 am to
No one thinks that the vols offense is anything more than going fast and trying to take advantage of as much confusion as possible. Huepels early success was predictable, the longer the look the more defenses will adjust.
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Posted on 4/24/24 at 9:36 am to
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koreandawg


Posted by psk_Vol
Nashville
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Posted on 4/24/24 at 10:09 am to
Tennessee’s offense caters to the running game though. Us leading the SEC in avg team rushing yards a game last year/#8 nationally (only SEC team last year landing in top 10 avg rushing yards a game) in that category proves this.

Like, we will motion people pre snap just to lure an outside LB/safety/nickel CB away from the box and/or place 3 or 4 WRs nearly every play out on the widest splits possible before we simply attempt to cram the rock right up the middle more often than not. Many think of us as an air raid throw first offense, when in reality we literally run the ball more often than we throw it (our play selection last year ended at like 55% rush attempts 45% throwing attempts). How we line up most plays alone makes it really hard for our opponents to stack the box like they’d like to protect against our rushing attack we have.

We even ripped over 200+ despite several sacks against the statistical best/most talented DL in the SEC last year during the aTm game we won.

Our RBs will produce yet again this year. Dylan Sampson barring injury will be a name everyone on this board will know come next fall. Plus our Oline should be one of the best in league next year, if not the entire country.
This post was edited on 4/24/24 at 10:21 am
Posted by psk_Vol
Nashville
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 4/24/24 at 10:17 am to
Nah unless they change the hash placement to mirror NFL it’ll be plenty sustainable as long as we have a competent QB that knows how to make the thing work as it is designed like Hooker could. Milton was vastly inferior to Hooker at making our offensive engine churn like we needed him to, however I have a very strong feeling that Nico could not be a more perfect fit for our unique system of offense these next two/three seasons.

Only thing I don’t like about our system is how important it is for us to not go 3-out. As fast as we play, a 3 and out doesn’t afford our defense enough time to even sit down for a min and catch their breath. Fortunately though our defense will finally be 2/3 deep across the board next year and we typically get a first down or two at the very least most drives anyways.
This post was edited on 4/24/24 at 10:37 am
Posted by bamameister
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Posted on 4/24/24 at 10:24 am to
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Only thing I don’t like about our system is how important it is for us to not go 3-out. As fast as we play, a 3 and out doesn’t give afford our defense enough time to even sit down for a min and catch their breath. Fortunately though our defense will finally be 2/3 deep across the board next year and we typically get a first down or two at the very least most drives anyways.


And that won't change. 3 and outs and kicking field goals instead of scoring TDs in the red zone is the death of what type of HUNH spread you are running. The barn tried it years ago under the Gus Bus and they ran into the same problems. Their defense was gassed in the 4th quarter.
Posted by psk_Vol
Nashville
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 4/24/24 at 10:30 am to
Defense is getting deep and talented finally though. Agreed, 3 and outs just can’t happen much to us with how we choose to play football. However conversely our opponents that fail to force us into enough 3-outs are the ones sucking wind come the 4th quarter. Us significantly upgrading at QB the next few years should greatly help limit our 3 and outs for the time being. We’ll see though
Posted by bamameister
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Posted on 4/24/24 at 10:43 am to
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Defense is getting deep and talented finally though. Agreed, 3 and outs just can’t happen much to us with how we choose to play football. However conversely our opponents that fail to force us into enough 3-outs are the ones sucking wind come the 4th quarter. Us significantly upgrading at QB the next few years should greatly help limit our 3 and outs for the time being.


Sure, but that is a lot of pressure on the offense every game. Too many great teams in the SEC who can play defense themselves, and as we know, it's numbers are growing. TOP is big for a lot of reasons and still, those teams at the top of the playoff hill are teams who can expose you for 4 quarters. ALABAMA shut you down in the second half and outscored you 27-0. Georgia is manhandling you.

Teams with offensive talent will have success because they will simply be more talented than the other guys. But getting to the elite side of college football is where we are trying to go. Look at the mess LSU put on the defensive side of the ball the last 2 seasons. All Brian Kelly was concerned with was scoring and it showed. It's that next step to greatness that you have to be built for. And your offense has to play to its defense with TOP to make it happen.
Posted by BevoBucks
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Member since Dec 2022
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Posted on 4/24/24 at 10:46 am to
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The thing is, Tennessee’s offense isn’t real.
What a dumb statement. Heupel’s job is to outscore opponents, not get guys to the League.
This post was edited on 4/24/24 at 10:59 am
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25594 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 10:51 am to
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Huepel’s job is to outscore opponents, not get guys to the League.


Heupel was tied for 11th in the conference (with Vandy) for ppg against ranked opponents in 2023.

How's that working out for 40 year old Bobby Hill?
Posted by Serraneaux
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Posted on 4/24/24 at 10:54 am to
Damn....you got him now!!!!!!!
Posted by BevoBucks
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Member since Dec 2022
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Posted on 4/24/24 at 10:58 am to
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How's that working out for 40 year old Bobby Hill?
He’s Gus 2.0 & needs a quick processing QB. But, one down year on stats doesn’t equal “Tennessee’s offense isn’t real”.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25594 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 11:12 am to
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But, one down year on stats doesn’t equal “Tennessee’s offense isn’t real”.


The ppg against ranked opponents has been significantly declining since 2021.

Heupel was at his best against Kirby when he worked at Mizzou.

You may be unfamiliar with the word "trend", but it is a good one and can be quite useful on occasions.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25594 posts
Posted on 4/24/24 at 11:16 am to
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But, one down year on stats doesn’t equal “Tennessee’s offense isn’t real”.


2022 and 2021, Tennessee was top 3 in the country in scoring against unranked opponents (top 18 in 2023).

The offense runs up scores and abuses the sisters of the poor.
You have some notion of offensive potency that I do not... probably based on 7+ TD games against Virginia, Uconn, Ball St, Akron, Tennessee Martin, Missouri, Vandy, Tennessee Tech, and South Alabamas.
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