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Posted on 4/18/24 at 3:40 pm to
Posted by CCTider
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Posted on 4/18/24 at 3:40 pm to
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Rylan Griffen
Ht: 6-6Wt: 190
Griffen is a plug-and-play wing because of his ability to shoot the ball. He made 74 3s this season at a 39.2 percent clip. He’s elite as a spot-up shooter. The release is quick and high. He can also make shots off the move, but most of his 3s come off spot-ups. He’s limited as an athlete but seems to realize his limitations and play to his strengths. He almost always plays off two feet and still shoots it well at the rim, helped by his size. He shot 64.3 percent at the rim, per Synergy. He’s right-handed dominant — so he usually drives right — and not the type to shake defenders off the bounce. Most of his points come on jumpers. Go behind a dribble handoff or ball screen, and he’s pulling it. He shot more 3s (189) than 2s (102). He’s been well-schooled in how to play efficient basketball, hunting 3s and being willing to make the extra pass if the shot isn’t there for him. He made eight 3s in the Sweet 16 game against North Carolina and then followed that up with eight assists in the Elite Eight against Clemson. This is a surprising one because he’s such a good fit in Alabama’s system and started 33 games this season. — C.J. Moore


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Posted by Panthers4life
Huntsville
Member since Nov 2017
4361 posts
Posted on 4/18/24 at 4:13 pm to
I don't know why he's leaving since he s a perfect fit.
Posted by CCTider
Member since Dec 2014
24148 posts
Posted on 4/18/24 at 4:27 pm to
I thought it was funny that a national guy even said, "why the hell out he leaving? He was a perfect fit."

But Kansas must've put some crazy figures in his head, that Oats felt was overpaying. And maybe there's personality conflicts that we haven't heard about. Only thing we do know for sure, is there'd been whispers for a long time.
Posted by youhavetobekidding
Member since Feb 2024
106 posts
Posted on 4/18/24 at 4:56 pm to
In the famous words of Cuba Gooding, Jr.

SHOW ME THE MONEY!

LINK
Posted by My2Bits
2500 mi from Tuscaloosa due west
Member since Jun 2012
4801 posts
Posted on 4/18/24 at 5:06 pm to
Re: Pollard

Didn’t his Mom get into trouble with the law right after his enrollment here? She kidnapped someone’ s child it was said, May have been other charges too. That’s enough to mess up anyone’s season.
Posted by phaz
Waddell, AZ
Member since Jan 2009
5828 posts
Posted on 4/18/24 at 5:07 pm to
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He made eight 3s in the Sweet 16 game against North Carolina and then followed that up with eight assists in the Elite Eight against Clemson.


I would like to know how he did that, he only scored 19 pts
Posted by SECSolomonGrundy
Slaughter Swamp
Member since Jun 2012
15866 posts
Posted on 4/18/24 at 5:07 pm to
No word of him being an "elite" defender?
Posted by youhavetobekidding
Member since Feb 2024
106 posts
Posted on 4/18/24 at 5:11 pm to
Ha! Your right: I think 5 (3's), 1 (2), and 2 FT's (not 8 3's)
This post was edited on 4/18/24 at 5:13 pm
Posted by Gideon Swashbuckler
Member since Sep 2019
5782 posts
Posted on 4/18/24 at 5:16 pm to
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No word of him being an "elite" defender?


Doesn't say he's black either. Some things you can just see, or you can't.
Posted by SECSolomonGrundy
Slaughter Swamp
Member since Jun 2012
15866 posts
Posted on 4/18/24 at 5:29 pm to
Of course. More brilliant analysis from G.Swashy.

What do you think of the comments about his athletic limitations?
Posted by Syd
Member since Sep 2012
2964 posts
Posted on 4/18/24 at 5:37 pm to
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Doesn't say he's black either. Some things you can just see, or you can't.


Wait, he’s black?
Posted by youhavetobekidding
Member since Feb 2024
106 posts
Posted on 4/18/24 at 5:42 pm to
Played basketball my entire life and followed it my entire life, yet do not know basketball the way some of you know basketball and fotr that alone I am very appreciative of the Alabama Sports Board. That being said, I was very surprised at the beginning of the year with how out-of-sync Griffen was on the court. He looked so lost... then mid season he demonstrated super talent for his position. When to shoot, when to pass, when to dribble.... defensive prowess seems to be for only a select few based on either or all of speed, size, determination, basketball IQ.. etc. I also struggled throughout the year with how we rebounded.. much better as with defense in general towards the end of the season. Earlier I felt like we were just soft... get mean, get angry, BLOCK OUT! Either way, hope this becomes the soul of Alabama basketball next year... It is why I picked (unfortunately) Houston in the finals
Posted by Gideon Swashbuckler
Member since Sep 2019
5782 posts
Posted on 4/18/24 at 6:03 pm to
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Of course. More brilliant analysis from G.Swashy.

What do you think of the comments about his athletic limitations?


Oh, I've been convinced. Griff was the worst defender on the team. Perhaps Griff was the worst defender ever to don the BAMA uniform.

I can't believe Oats played him at all. It's definitely strike one and two. I'm very close to starting "firenateoats.com" in the wake of his horrible decision to constantly play BAMA's worst defender night-in and night-out.
Posted by mistaken4193
Member since Jan 2017
25525 posts
Posted on 4/18/24 at 6:15 pm to
Oats taking a kid Bruce failed with and being successful with him would break the Barners…..or at least what is left of them after we made the Final 4
Posted by youhavetobekidding
Member since Feb 2024
106 posts
Posted on 4/18/24 at 6:23 pm to
Hi Swashbuckler,

Can you give certain instances where this was the case and maybe select highlights from Youtube or another site. I may have been so caught up in the game as a whole and others struggling at times with defense that I didn't recognize the significant disparity between Rylan's defense and the other players.

This article suggests outside of his NBA potential offense, he demonstrates NBA potential for defense too. Just curious about your take.

LINK
This post was edited on 4/18/24 at 6:27 pm
Posted by RiverCityTider
Jacksonville, Florida
Member since Oct 2008
4316 posts
Posted on 4/18/24 at 6:47 pm to
I just want to say that a player like Griffin is worth different amounts for different teams. Every player in the portal has a different value for every major school. Just because a player leaves it doesn't automatically mean the school that gets him has deeper pockets. It may just means that he has greater utility for that school at this particular time.

My understanding is that oats has been working with slightly under 3 million in annual NIL. Big Boy... blue blood money is considered to be 5 million. When Kentucky approached Oats, there were discussions about NIL and assistant coaching salaries. One assurance that was made was bumping NIL into that top tier category.

But regardless of your NIL, you have to optimize your spending. It may make more sense to double up on a Sears than spend on Griffin. It may make sense to reserve more for a Grant Nelson, who flashed in the tournament and may ultimately be great.

You can't just try to hold onto everyone.

I sleep good knowing that massive fireworks are shooting off in that big Nate Oats cranium. He's optimizing all this and I'm sleeping well.

Bama's final four and Nate Oats dramatic show of loyalty to the University has really supercharged the program. We're going to do what we have to do.
Posted by BigBird09
Member since May 2012
5889 posts
Posted on 4/18/24 at 6:58 pm to
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Re: Pollard

Didn’t his Mom get into trouble with the law right after his enrollment here? She kidnapped someone’ s child it was said, May have been other charges too. That’s enough to mess up anyone’s season.


Yup. And she made Devonta drive the getaway car. Strange family. Devonta himself was awkward and a bit of an odd bird. His twitter account mostly consisted of retweeting and commenting on porn accounts as if his account wasn't open to the public
Posted by TheNameIsDalton
Huntsville
Member since Mar 2021
1147 posts
Posted on 4/18/24 at 7:45 pm to
Sounding like we got Holloway, should be an announcement tomorrow.
Posted by BigBird09
Member since May 2012
5889 posts
Posted on 4/18/24 at 8:34 pm to
Looks like there are rumors of us potentially landing Sean Pedulla out of nowhere. I thought landing Holloway made me skeptical Sears would return. Landing both makes me think it's a sure thing he's gone.

Edit: This would be huge if true and 2 huge consolation prizes, but I'd be heartbroken knowing it very likely means Sears won't be back.
This post was edited on 4/18/24 at 9:07 pm
Posted by pioneerbasketball
Team Bunchie
Member since Oct 2005
132307 posts
Posted on 4/18/24 at 9:12 pm to
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I would like to know how he did that, he only scored 19 pts
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