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Should committee for 12 team playoff
Posted on 5/19/24 at 10:55 am
Posted on 5/19/24 at 10:55 am
Avoid rematches best they can or do an honest ranking?
Posted on 5/19/24 at 11:24 am to rtr23242526
Is it a playoff or just an expanded invitational?
Posted on 5/19/24 at 11:30 am to rtr23242526
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committee for 12 team playoff
Should bring back a balance of computer rankings (with transparent algorithms set and known) and human subjective polling.
Nothing is perfect, but it's harder to bitch when everyone goes into a season knowing the rules are set.
Rank them according to the methodology agreed upon and set the field, rematches or not.
Posted on 5/19/24 at 11:51 am to Che Boludo
Boom
.hadn't thought of puter
.hadn't thought of puter
Posted on 5/19/24 at 11:53 am to rtr23242526
Ez to rig.
1 4 5 8 bracket
2 3 6 7 bracket
1 4 5 8 bracket
2 3 6 7 bracket
Posted on 5/19/24 at 12:55 pm to rtr23242526
They should not care about rematches. Otherwise they aren’t being objective and it calls into question the whole system.
Posted on 5/19/24 at 2:40 pm to rtr23242526
There are rematches in basketball and baseball,
There was a rematch between Georgia and Bama in football, but it was for the championship.
Gotta put the teams somewhere.
There was a rematch between Georgia and Bama in football, but it was for the championship.
Gotta put the teams somewhere.
Posted on 5/19/24 at 5:05 pm to Che Boludo
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and human subjective polling
Yeah, that sure sounds NON-biased.
Posted on 5/19/24 at 6:11 pm to southernboisb
quote:you can't eliminate bias from a human poll. But, you can balance with the computer polls for a good result to mitigate that flaws in each.
Yeah, that sure sounds NON-biased.
The BCS formula was pretty good in the end. Just bring back a similar format and replace the coaches and Harris poll human inputs with equal weight for the committee poll.
Posted on 5/19/24 at 6:34 pm to Che Boludo
Rematches or not should NOT be a consideration. Just rank the 11 best teams and throw in the G4/5 team at #12.
Posted on 5/24/24 at 8:26 am to Che Boludo
Any kind of human interaction can be biased by the following:
- favoritism toward a team/conference/coach
- dislike toward a team/conference/coach
- coaches who give the task to somebody else to fill out
- WHO has the time to watch ALL the games in order to fairly complete the poll?
ex.: Which game do you give more credit:
Game A where Team X outscores Team Y 70-0
or
Game B where Team Z wins by 1 pt. in the final seconds?
- favoritism toward a team/conference/coach
- dislike toward a team/conference/coach
- coaches who give the task to somebody else to fill out
- WHO has the time to watch ALL the games in order to fairly complete the poll?
ex.: Which game do you give more credit:
Game A where Team X outscores Team Y 70-0
or
Game B where Team Z wins by 1 pt. in the final seconds?
This post was edited on 5/24/24 at 8:28 am
Posted on 5/24/24 at 8:50 am to rtr23242526
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Should committee for 12 team playoff avoid rematches best they can or do an honest ranking?
How would you do that? The conference winners won't necessarily be the top 4 teams record-wise. We could see some of the worst teams in the playoff get byes and then get reseeded in the quarterfinals.
Posted on 5/24/24 at 9:35 am to bamameister
brackets are 1 45 0
vs 23 67
put all one conference on one side of bracket or separate or honest rank
vs 23 67
put all one conference on one side of bracket or separate or honest rank
Posted on 5/24/24 at 9:35 am to bamameister
brackets are 1 45 8
vs 23 67
put all one conference on one side of bracket or separate or honest rank
vs 23 67
put all one conference on one side of bracket or separate or honest rank
Posted on 5/24/24 at 9:51 am to Che Boludo
quote:E.g., Saban putting Stanford above OSU in 2011. Humans can always manipulate but the BCS and computers would be way better than the committee.
you can't eliminate bias from a human poll. But, you can balance with the computer polls for a good result to mitigate that flaws in each.
The BCS formula was pretty good in the end
Posted on 5/26/24 at 5:20 pm to bamameister
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We could see some of the worst teams in the playoff get byes and then get reseeded in the quarterfinals.
Why would you reseed during the PO?
Posted on 5/27/24 at 10:51 am to rtr23242526
No, they should be objective and rank teams. If it’s a rematch, so be it. No manipulation. The best team will win. Rematches are as overrated as crowd noise. Weather and traveling cross country on quick turnarounds are much more of a factor.
Posted on 5/27/24 at 11:21 am to rtr23242526
We need a computer picking the teams based on a BCS style formula.
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