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re: List of SEC programs with most 10+ wins that rank among nation's top 20 all-time
Posted on 5/7/24 at 5:00 pm to AUTiger789
Posted on 5/7/24 at 5:00 pm to AUTiger789
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Again. The variance is SOS that exists in this sport is too severe to put much stock in # of 10-win seasons. When the Sooners start playing a schedule with a pulse, there’s no way those 10+ seasons will keep piling up.
You cherry picked 2010 and later because the big 12 was very dominant before that. Also OU and Texas have always maintained top SOS. OU has always played Nebraska and Texas yearly who combine for more NCs than the rest of the SEC combined if you don’t count Bama and TN.
This post was edited on 5/7/24 at 5:03 pm
Posted on 5/7/24 at 5:07 pm to Boomer00
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You cherry picked 2010 and later because the big 12 was very dominant before that. Also OU and Texas have always maintained top SOS. OU has always played Nebraska and Texas yearly who combine for more NCs than the rest of the SEC combined if you don’t count Bama and TN.
This post was edited on 5/7/24 at 5:08 pm
Posted on 5/7/24 at 5:11 pm to Boomer00
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Also OU and Texas have always maintained top SOS. OU has always played Nebraska and Texas yearly who combine for more NCs than the rest of the SEC combined if you don’t count Bama and TN.
You sure bout dat?
LSU - 4
Florida - 3
UGA - 4
Auburn - 2
Nebraska - 5
Texas - 4
OU is a no-doubt blue blood of the sport. I believe they're the winningest team since the 1950s or something like that. But two things can be true at the same time. As such, OU is both a blue blood and has benefited from annual games with poor football schools.
Posted on 5/8/24 at 7:08 am to Boomer00
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You cherry picked 2010 and later because the big 12 was very dominant before that. Also OU and Texas have always maintained top SOS. OU has always played Nebraska and Texas yearly who combine for more NCs than the rest of the SEC combined if you don’t count Bama and TN.
So you are making the argument that OU played teams that won a lot of titles, more than the rest of the SEC minus Alabama and Tennessee. How many National title winners have OU played over the years that weren't Texas and Nebraska?
There is also the caveat that back in the day when it was OU, Texas and Nebraska the other 8-9 teams on the regular schedule consisted of 25% of teams with an over all history of losing records and a bunch of patsies who ain't ever been any good like Kansas and Texas Tech. It is easy to play a one game regular season and remain healthy and ready for one bowl game....it is an entirely different undertaking to play a SEC schedule, play in the SEC CG and then win 2 or more games against a quality opponent to win a natty. OU and Texas can do it for certain but the days of lookinig at the schedule in May and only seeing Texas and Nebraska or over....
Posted on 5/8/24 at 7:17 am to Boomer00
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You cherry picked 2010 and later because the big 12 was very dominant before that. Also OU and Texas have always maintained top SOS. OU has always played Nebraska and Texas yearly who combine for more NCs than the rest of the SEC combined if you don’t count Bama and TN.
OU regularly had 2 teams on the schedule that had won a natty and those 2 teams regularly had Oklahoma on the schedule. It was usually a 1-2 game regular season for all 3 of those teams with a bunch of patsies filling out the rest of the year. In the SEC there are 6 teams with multiple national titles who play one another fairly regularly. In most seasons there are 4-5 games on the schedule in the conference where your opponent is as good as anyone in the nation...week in and week out, year after year...it is a different beast.
Posted on 5/8/24 at 8:25 am to Boomer00
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You cherry picked 2010 and later because the big 12 was very dominant before that.
Okay. So let’s go back to the inception of the Big 12.
Number of Final AP Top 5 Opponents Played 1995-2023:
46- Alabama, Tennessee
45- Auburn
42- Florida
35- LSU
33- Georgia
27- Oklahoma
25- Texas
Tell me if you can spot the Big 12 teams on that list.
Number of Final AP Top 10 Opponents Played 1995-2023:
76- Florida
75- Auburn, Tennessee
64- Alabama, LSU
58- Georgia
54- Texas
51- Oklahoma
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Also OU and Texas have always maintained top SOS.
How so? Like with actual facts.
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OU has always played Nebraska and Texas yearly who combine for more NCs than the rest of the SEC combined if you don’t count Bama and TN.
What the fresh hell is this cherry picked stat? Also it’s factually incorrect even with its twisted logic.
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