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re: Worst QBs to win a national title
Posted on 7/25/24 at 6:26 am to AulderMagee
Posted on 7/25/24 at 6:26 am to AulderMagee
They way I look at it is this: Is there an above 50 percent chance you end up with a better QB if you just draw a starting QB from that year out of a hat.
I think the Penn St. qb in 1986 fits that. He's probably the only one I'd be sure of.
I think the Penn St. qb in 1986 fits that. He's probably the only one I'd be sure of.
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Just because a quarterback's play doesn't translate into the NFL game doesn't make them any more or less good of a QB in the college game.
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Posted on 7/25/24 at 6:37 am to Tigerroar73
mcarron was solid. didn't have the focus to stay longer in the nfl. career backup isnt a bad thing.
Posted on 7/25/24 at 8:17 am to Tigerroar73
Matt Mauck was arse.
But the real answer here is Krenzel since his team was given a national title, they didn’t earn it.
But the real answer here is Krenzel since his team was given a national title, they didn’t earn it.
Posted on 7/25/24 at 8:26 am to Gator Fever
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Just had to throw high in the general area with his receivers.
Pretty sure you just described Johnny Manziel too
Posted on 7/25/24 at 8:30 am to thirdlawson
Chris Leak was really good as a pure passer and got screwed over by coaching changes and switching to an offense under Meyer than didn't really fit him. Martin and Dorsey were very good as well. Dumb list imo. Leak threw one of the prettiest balls I've ever seen at the college level though.
Posted on 7/25/24 at 8:35 am to Marktastic86
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To his credit, he improved every year after this. But man, talk about a weak link on that '92 team.
What's funny is that in that Miami game they knew we were going to run the ball - we only threw it 13 times, with 4 completions and two picks.
Didn't matter - 60 rushes for 267 yards.
Didn't hurt that the defense not only kept Miami out of the end zone (their lone TD was on a punt return), but they also had a pick 6 (meaning that Alabama's defense scored just as many points as Miami's offense) and gave the Alabama offense two short fields (Miami threw, IIRC, picks on three straight drives, the third being the pick 6).
Teague had a pick 6 and no one even remembers because also stripped Lamar Thomas mid-stride on a play that would get called back but would have stood if Teague had simply tackled Thomas.
Posted on 7/25/24 at 8:48 am to Tigerroar73
Cardale Jones?
Posted on 7/25/24 at 9:32 am to skrayper
The Strip 
Posted on 7/25/24 at 9:40 am to thirdlawson
Holy batman...i just realized you included Heupel on your list. Downvoted.
Posted on 7/25/24 at 9:41 am to Tigerroar73
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Worst QBs to win a national title
Josh Heupel
Posted on 7/25/24 at 9:44 am to Tigerroar73
Matt Flynn
This post was edited on 7/25/24 at 9:48 am
Posted on 7/25/24 at 9:49 am to GiveHimSix
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Chris Leak was really good as a pure passer and got screwed over by coaching changes and switching to an offense under Meyer than didn't really fit him. Martin and Dorsey were very good as well. Dumb list imo. Leak threw one of the prettiest balls I've ever seen at the college level though.
Chris Leak WAS a beautiful thrower of the ball... would've won the Heisman for Spurrier. BUT he played for Urban Meyer...
I liked Tee Martin, but that running game and defense were the stars. Ken Dorsey played with Clinton Portis, Andre Johnson, Jeremy Shockey amongst a slew of others...
Posted on 7/25/24 at 9:51 am to lowhound
Ok, although I thought he was pretty good being a 3rd string QB on that team . Just think about that, a 3rd string QB who put on a dominating performance against Wisconsin, Alabama, and Oregon.
Posted on 7/25/24 at 9:57 am to narddogg81
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Matt Flynn
This is a much better answer than most of the ones I have seen posted.
Posted on 7/25/24 at 10:40 am to Tigerroar73
Jay Barker's NC stats were.... abysmal.
Posted on 7/25/24 at 11:00 am to Smokey Okie
quote:McCarron's screen pass to Yeldon is the only thing they can remember about him. Scarred their swamp water minds for eternity.
You suspect that because your coonass brain is retarded.
Posted on 7/25/24 at 11:06 am to thirdlawson
Considering that Leak was still able to win a NC under Urban is very impressive though. He looked like a fish out of water in that offense. His brother played at Tennessee for a few years so i followed his recruitment.
Chris Leak was so good as an upcoming prospect, that Bowden and FSU were looking at recruiting him as a freshman in highschool. That's how impressive his arm was for a young prospect.
He would have definitely set a few SEC passing records under Spurrier.
Chris Leak was so good as an upcoming prospect, that Bowden and FSU were looking at recruiting him as a freshman in highschool. That's how impressive his arm was for a young prospect.
He would have definitely set a few SEC passing records under Spurrier.
This post was edited on 7/25/24 at 11:08 am
Posted on 7/25/24 at 11:45 am to Tigerroar73
Way too much recency bias. Quarterbacks back in the day weren't required to do nearly as much. Go back and look at the stat lines from national championship quarterbacks 50 or 60 years.
But if we're doing this century, it's probably Craig Krenzel.
But if we're doing this century, it's probably Craig Krenzel.
Posted on 7/25/24 at 11:52 am to Violent Hip Swivel
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But if we're doing this century, it's probably Craig Krenzel.
every so often I will still get moderately annoyed, 22 years later, that that OSU team won a title. They needed a 4th down TD (which their fans refer to as holy buckeye, proving that they know it was fairly lucky) to beat a barely .500 purdue. They escaped a .500 cincy by less than a TD. They truly LOST to a 5-7 illinois. That game was played the same day as UGA/AU; I recoreded all the games on VHS in those days and watched the replay of our AU game roughly several hundred times, and I distinctly remember them showing highlights of the OSU/Ill game in which OSU benefitted from a completely shitty blown call by the refs to give OSU the win. Half of their regular season wins were by single digits.
Then they face a vastly superior Miami team and get not only the benefit of their star gamechanging player go out with an injury, but get ANOTHER referee assistance to give them the win.
I'm not saying that squad was trash and should have finished 8-4 or anything, of course they were "good". But they were NOT the best team in america. I am certain that UGA would have beat them easily that year. The only team at the end of the year in 2002 that might have beaten UGA is Miami.
Posted on 7/25/24 at 11:55 am to Tigerroar73
Surprised Troy Smith from OhioSt. didn't show up here
EDIT: Check that he won a Heisman in 2006. He was a RS when they won it in 2002. Scratch that.
EDIT: Check that he won a Heisman in 2006. He was a RS when they won it in 2002. Scratch that.
This post was edited on 7/25/24 at 11:59 am
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