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Why Ole Miss will get the last at large slot

Posted on 12/2/24 at 1:58 pm
Posted by Dixie.Reb
Oxford
Member since Jul 2013
2785 posts
Posted on 12/2/24 at 1:58 pm
As the 11-12 seed, there are 2 criteria that matter more than anything: can you beat top 15 (playoff caliber) teams consistently and can you do it on the road in a first round game. Close games are not a predictor of consistency, so let’s look at convincing wins that fit those criteria.

teams with multiple 3 score wins against top 15 teams:
Ole Miss

teams with a 3 score win against a top 15 team on the road:
Ole Miss
Ohio State
(UGA also has a neutral site win if Clemson wins the ACC)

That’s it, that’s the list.

Everyone likes to say that South Carolina is getting hot at the right time, but they needed 2 improbable plays in the last minute to barely beat 2 ranked teams. That luck isn’t going to translate to a road game in South Bend. Same thing with Bama. Yes, they can beat anyone in the country, but they will need luck to do it just like they needed luck to beat South Carolina and UGA.

This isn’t a 4 team playoff so every team is going to have “fatal flaws”. But UK, Florida, and LSU aren’t in the playoff which is why quality wins matter more than bad losses. And Ole Miss is the safest choice to prove the committee right.
Posted by SEC Doctor
Member since Aug 2024
6132 posts
Posted on 12/2/24 at 1:59 pm to
quote:

Why Ole Miss will get the last at large slot


Good luck with that.
Posted by Dixie.Reb
Oxford
Member since Jul 2013
2785 posts
Posted on 12/2/24 at 2:02 pm to
UGA against Kentucky 13-12
Ole Miss against Kentucky 17-20

There is a 4 point swing thanks to a miracle 4th down PI but people want to act like the last minute of a game matters more than the first 59 minutes when evaluating how bad a team is.
Posted by TRUERockyTop
Appalachia
Member since Sep 2011
16514 posts
Posted on 12/2/24 at 2:02 pm to
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
104972 posts
Posted on 12/2/24 at 2:03 pm to
quote:

Everyone likes to say that South Carolina is getting hot at the right time, but they needed 2 improbable plays in the last minute to barely beat 2 ranked teams


Sounds like they aren't a playoff caliber team then.


quote:

teams with a 3 score win against a top 15 team on the road:
Ole Miss (@ South Carolina)



Wait a minute
Posted by GamecockUltimate
Columbia,SC
Member since Feb 2019
8607 posts
Posted on 12/2/24 at 2:03 pm to
quote:

Everyone likes to say that South Carolina is getting hot at the right time, but they needed 2 improbable plays in the last minute to barely beat 2 ranked teams. That luck isn’t going to translate to a road game in South Bend. Same thing with Bama. Yes, they can beat anyone in the country, but they will need luck to do it just like they needed luck to beat South Carolina and UGA.


I agreed with you until here...and honestly before saying anything else I think OM should be in.


but we needed last minute drives to beat 2 of the 4 ranked teams we beat. The other two ranked teams we beat by 21+. We can't help that A&M and Vandy decided that they didnt want to win anymore as we played them more than halfway through the season.

but yeah OM should 100% be in over Sc and Bama
Posted by Marktastic86
Pismo Beach, CA
Member since Dec 2020
17920 posts
Posted on 12/2/24 at 2:03 pm to
quote:

Ole Miss against Kentucky 17-20

Worst team in the SEC beat you on your own field. Not really any way to spin that one.
Posted by DawginSC
Member since Aug 2022
7341 posts
Posted on 12/2/24 at 2:03 pm to
quote:

UGA against Kentucky 13-12
Ole Miss against Kentucky 17-20

There is a 4 point swing thanks to a miracle 4th down PI but people want to act like the last minute of a game matters more than the first 59 minutes when evaluating how bad a team is.


UGA was on the road. Ole Miss was at home.

UGA didn't lose.

Posted by NickPapageorgio
Yuma, AZ
Member since Oct 2014
849 posts
Posted on 12/2/24 at 2:05 pm to
We aren't getting the last spot.

The last spot will go to one of......Miami, SMU or Bama.

I'd argue we should be in over Bama but it's already been shown the committee has us behind Bama.

USC isn't getting in.
Posted by GamecockUltimate
Columbia,SC
Member since Feb 2019
8607 posts
Posted on 12/2/24 at 2:05 pm to
quote:

UGA was on the road. Ole Miss was at home.

UGA didn't lose.



also of note...Carolina beat them on the road 31-6 but honestly thats the part that makes all of this so hard, none of the 3 teams were consistent. We won this game big but lost or only won by a little vs a team that the other two blew out. Thats why every team feels they have some argument
This post was edited on 12/2/24 at 2:07 pm
Posted by 1801
Charleston
Member since Aug 2012
7821 posts
Posted on 12/2/24 at 2:05 pm to
that's it I'm sold - make room on the Ole Miss band wagon for me -

Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
68547 posts
Posted on 12/2/24 at 2:06 pm to
quote:

UGA against Kentucky 13-12
Ole Miss against Kentucky 17-20

There is a 4 point swing thanks to a miracle 4th down PI but people want to act like the last minute of a game matters more than the first 59 minutes when evaluating how bad a team is.

Kentucky against Ole Miss - win
Kentucky against the rest of their SEC schedule - 7 losses
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
104972 posts
Posted on 12/2/24 at 2:06 pm to
One thing is for sure based on that photo- Oxford is set for water storage moving forward.
Posted by madmaxvol
Infinity + 1 Posts
Member since Oct 2011
20885 posts
Posted on 12/2/24 at 2:07 pm to
quote:

Why Bama will get the last at large slot



Ole Miss finished the season with a big win over their rival at home. There were 5,000 fewer people in the stadium than there were at the Bama Spring Game. The NCAA wants eyes on tv screen for advertisers. Bama will have more people watching than Ole Miss. They will justify it by pointing to the Kentucky loss.
Posted by 1801
Charleston
Member since Aug 2012
7821 posts
Posted on 12/2/24 at 2:09 pm to
might could use a few more double-axle trailers around town - but they do indeed have the water situation well under control -
Posted by Dixie.Reb
Oxford
Member since Jul 2013
2785 posts
Posted on 12/2/24 at 2:13 pm to
quote:

. The other two ranked teams we beat by 21+. We can't help that A&M and Vandy decided that they didnt want to win anymore as we played them more than halfway through the season


And when Ole Miss lost to UK, they were 2 points away from having back to back top 10 wins, but the rest of the season showed how bad they were. Midseason rankings don’t count for end of season evaluations.
Posted by timdonaghyswhistle
Member since Jul 2018
19583 posts
Posted on 12/2/24 at 2:17 pm to
quote:

As the 11-12 seed, there are 2 criteria that matter more than anything


Being Alabama and not being Alabama.

This post was edited on 12/2/24 at 2:18 pm
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
14784 posts
Posted on 12/2/24 at 2:23 pm to
Well, if the majority if people on the committee think like you then Ole Miss should be fine.












Spoiler: the majority of people on the committee do not think like you.
Posted by CleverUserName
Member since Oct 2016
14361 posts
Posted on 12/2/24 at 4:00 pm to
quote:

can you beat top 15 (playoff caliber) teams consistently and can you do it on the road in a first round game.


Didn’t you lose to three currently unranked teams while playing the 2nd or third easiest schedule in the SEC? Two of which were on the road?
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