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re: UPDATE..Bogus National Title claims: Alabama claims 18 but most are questionable
Posted on 12/23/22 at 4:42 pm to TideFaninFl
Posted on 12/23/22 at 4:42 pm to TideFaninFl
quote:OMG...he is now a real live Rocket Scientist.
You might want to go look at why someone would live in Huntsville and also live on the Space Coast....
The bullshite from this bandwagon riding clown just gets deeper.
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Posted on 12/23/22 at 4:48 pm to MOS0311
quote:What part of "you are not man enough to speak to me" did your wimpy arse fail to comprehend?
MOS0311
Let me post this AGAIN...with highlights.
This is NOT fiction. It is straight from the Sports Information Director at the University of Alabama.
"I've got a tiny dick and need those 18 championships
" does not override facts from a Bama SID. quote:Let me school a bandwagon riding bitch one more time.
Honestly since you have shown you have no clue, you do not belong here either...
But do not leave, we are having such a good time laughing at your stupidity.
Let us know if you ever attend an actual game or a class at Bama.
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This article was from when Bama CLAIMED 12.
Former Alabama sports information director Wayne Atcheson, shown here in 2000 with one of the books on the Crimson Tide that he wrote, started the claim of 12 national championships for Alabama. (The Birmingham News)
Wayne Atcheson, the son of a small-town preacher, loves history and his Alabama football. These days, he enjoys serving as director of the Billy Graham Library in Charlotte.
What you might not know about Atcheson is his contribution to Alabama football history.
He is the reason Alabama's media guide claims 12 national titles. He is the reason Alabama fans wear "got twelve?" T-shirts. He is the reason some fans can already start marketing bumper stickers for a 13th national championship, a presumptive move that isn't the first presumptive move in the university's national title count.
Because before Alabama got 12, it only got six.
Atcheson is the former Alabama sports information director who added five pre-Bear Bryant national titles to the team's media guide in the 1980s. Those changes still resonate today with one burning question: Just how many national championships does Alabama have, anyway?
"They can rightfully claim 12," Atcheson said, although others disagree.
The NCAA record book recognizes Alabama with seven "consensus" national championships -- the six by Bryant and 1992. According to this list, "consensus" means a championship bestowed since 1950 by any, but not necessarily all, of the following: the Associated Press, United Press International, Football Writers Association of America, National Football Foundation/College Football Hall of Fame, USA Today/CNN or USA Today/ESPN.
On a separate list in the record book, the NCAA compares how "national poll champions" have fared in bowl games since 1900. That list gives Alabama nine national titles, including 1925 and 1926 but leaving off 1930, '34 and '41.
College Football Data Warehouse, an online history of the sport, recognizes Alabama with 11 -- all except the most controversial one, in 1941. The SEC follows the NCAA approach by starting its count at 1950 and recognizes Alabama with seven.
So how did an SID from the Ray Perkins era -- a period with zero SEC titles, much less any national titles -- shape such a core belief that many Alabama supporters today accept as gospel?
"I've talked to university officials about it. You're about the first reporter to ever ask me about it," said Atcheson, Alabama's SID from 1983 to '87 and later associate director of the Tide Pride donor program.
"I want to say the right thing here. I made the change because Coach Bryant had these 25 years and six national championships and they were emphasized so much. It was on all the stationery. And when I got there, it was a matter of seeing there were five others (before Bryant) and we should put them all together. It was as simple as that."
Atcheson said that in the 1983 media guide, he added the five pre-Bryant national titles now listed -- 1925, 1926, 1930, 1934 and 1941. Taylor Watson, curator at the Bryant Museum in Tuscaloosa, said it was actually the 1986 media guide.
This much is certain: The 1982 media guide, the last for Bryant, lists 1934 as the only pre-Bryant national championship, adding it in a footnote of Alabama's SEC history. In the year-by-year results in the '82 media guide, only Bryant's six national titles were listed.
Atcheson and Watson said it's important to put Alabama's claim of 12 in context because other schools have added debated championships, too.
"I tried to make Alabama football look the best it could look and just make it as great as it could possibly be," Atcheson said. "I was a competitor myself with the other schools, and what they bragged about and boasted about, I wanted people to know the best about my school."
Asked why 12 is the right number, Watson replied: "I don't know that it is the right number. But that's the great thing about college football. I hope we never have a playoff. I'll be going to my grave arguing that we should have won a national championship in 1966."
The Crimson Tide went 11-0 in '66, when Michigan State and Notre Dame shared the mythical title after tying each other. It's a lost championship that's as much a part of Alabama lore as its claim that it's going for No. 13 this week in Pasadena.
AL.com: Read it and weep, you Bama bandwagon riders
Posted on 12/23/22 at 6:06 pm to skrayper
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Weird how the post-season games pre-70s only apply to Alabama.
Tennessee has some of the worst claims of any teams in the nation and maybe the single worst individual claim of anyone ever.
They claim 6 of them. But 4 of them are a joke. Of the 2 legit ones they have left, they lost their bowl game after(1951). That's not going to stop your average Tennessee fan from running their mouth though - because they don't have a fricking clue that's the case.
However, I think maybe the absolute worst claim I've ever seen for any team has to be Tennessee's 1967 team.
They lost their opening game that season to final ranking #10 UCLA, and went 9-1 on the season. Their only accomplishment was a win against #8 Alabama in which Stabler played like shite.
Then they go on to play #3 Oklahoma in the Orange Bowl, and lose again. Finishing the year 9-2. #2 overall in the AP/Coaches, but that's of course only because those rankings came out before the bowl game.
If there is a national title claim by any team that is worse than this, I would love to know about it.
By that standard, Alabama would have like 60 national championships, going on 15 in a row.
This post was edited on 12/23/22 at 6:08 pm
Posted on 12/23/22 at 6:41 pm to 3down10
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UPDATE..Bogus National Title claims: Alabama claims 18 but most are questionable
quote:I know you are a Bammer and not very bright. So, let me explain.
Tennessee
Tennessee is NOT the thread subject. Want a Tennessee thread? Start one if you can figure out how.
quote:A Bammer talking about aother school claiming fake titles. The irony is so thick you can walk on it.
They claim 6 of them. But 4 of them are a joke
Posted on 12/23/22 at 6:47 pm to TValley
quote:May not be the subject, but Chicken did bring Tennessee up in the original post....
Tennessee is NOT the thread subject.
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Tennessee (1): 1998
So can talk about them and others.
Posted on 12/23/22 at 7:03 pm to Chicken
Curious question, Chicken. With all do respect to our Mighty Overlord, How many accounts do you have on this site? Or do you get unlimited upvotes/downvotes?
Posted on 12/23/22 at 8:27 pm to JohnnyRebel
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Curious question, Chicken. With all do respect to our Mighty Overlord, How many accounts do you have on this site? Or do you get unlimited upvotes/downvotes?
His threads don't get anchored, so this thread gets bumped over and over all the time.
If you make a thread, it'll get anchored after a certain amount of time automatically.
Posted on 12/23/22 at 8:27 pm to TValley
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I know you are a Bammer and not very bright. So, let me explain.
Tennessee is NOT the thread subject. Want a Tennessee thread? Start one if you can figure out how.
Posted on 12/24/22 at 5:46 am to TValley
So if Im reading the OP right, Alabama has nearly triple the number of legitimate national titles as the next best team.
Use the accepted method of awarding titles throughout the last century: Alabama look’s awesome.
Use LSU’s preferred method of saying only the modern era matters: Alabama looks even better.
Use the accepted method of awarding titles throughout the last century: Alabama look’s awesome.
Use LSU’s preferred method of saying only the modern era matters: Alabama looks even better.
Posted on 12/24/22 at 6:12 am to MillerLiteTime
quote:Which leads to the question.
So if Im reading the OP right, Alabama has nearly triple the number of legitimate national titles as the next best team.
Since you have so many titles. Why does Bammer's insecure, lttle-dicked fan base find it so important to make up bullshite titles.
"We're Alabama. We deserve more than we've actually won. Nick and Da Bar said said so...
"Posted on 12/24/22 at 6:18 am to TValley
Better question, why does it bother you so much. Pick a number, any number - good god.
Posted on 12/24/22 at 6:27 am to Jumpinjack
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Jumpinjack
"The mean man said we don't have 18
" Posted on 12/24/22 at 7:24 am to MillerLiteTime
I’ve always found this thread as proof of LSU’s unhealthy obsession with trying to prove they are the littlest of brothers to Alabama.
Posted on 12/24/22 at 7:52 am to Chicken
Winning a split championship is like kissing your sister, so I believe Bama gets a pass.
Posted on 12/24/22 at 8:00 am to LSUtoBOOT
quote:It's not a split championship when the other "co-champion" beats you on the field. You're not the champion. PERIOD.
Winning a split championship is like kissing your sister, so I believe Bama gets a pass.
Posted on 12/24/22 at 11:33 am to TValley
God you're bad at this.
You're like Willy if he hit himself in the head 6 times with a hammer and then was given a laptop and a link to this site.
You're like Willy if he hit himself in the head 6 times with a hammer and then was given a laptop and a link to this site.
Posted on 12/24/22 at 11:35 am to skrayper
quote:OH...you are just a master at forum posting. Insecure idiot.
God you're bad at this.
No, you do not have 18.
Posted on 12/24/22 at 6:19 pm to TValley
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