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Texas and Oklahoma...SEC stadiums vs Big 12 "stadiums"
Posted on 12/12/23 at 8:05 am
Posted on 12/12/23 at 8:05 am
Texas and Oklahoma jumping into a different league in more ways than one. Gone are the days when the largest conference stadium you travel to is 61,500 in Ames, Iowa. Y'all will finally get to experience big boy gameday environments outside of the Red River Shootout and your own respective stadiums.
Texas obviously handled it well this season when they took care of business in a road environment in front of just over 100,000 in Tuscaloosa. You got a sweetheart conference road schedule in 2024 only having to travel to Texas A&M, Arkansas, and Vanderbilt. One very loud road environment, one very respectable underrated one, and one in which your fans will take over the stadium. Granted, you do travel to the Big House to take on Michigan out of conference.
Oklahoma not as fortunate having to travel to two very loud and difficult road environments at LSU and at Auburn coupled with two more Big 12 like stadiums albeit against very solid competition at Ole Miss and at Missouri. Difficult home games against Alabama and Tennessee along with a difficult neutral site opponent Texas make for a very difficult conference schedule first season in the league.
Here's where the SEC and Big 12 stadiums rank nationally with regards to capacity. The list does include NFL stadiums where bowl games or occasional neutral site college games are played as well. Those stadiums weren't included in the list below:
#4 Texas A&M - 102,733
#5 LSU - 102,321
#6 Tennessee - 101,915
#7 Texas - 100,119
#8 Alabama - 100,077
#9 Georgia - 92,746
#12 Florida - 88,548
#13 Auburn - 88,043
#14 Oklahoma - 86.112
#22 South Carolina - 77,559
#25 Arkansas - 76,212
#54 Ole Miss - 64,038
#59 Missouri - 61,620
#60 Iowa State - 61,500
#64 Mississippi State - 61,337
#65 Kentucky - 61,306
#69 Texas Tech - 60,454
#71 West Virginia - 60,000
#77 Oklahoma State - 55,509
#93 Kansas State - 50,000
#97 Kansas - 47,233
#101 Baylor - 45,140
#102 TCU - 45,000
#104 UCF - 44,206
#109 Houston - 40,000
#112 Vanderbilt - 39,790
#115 Cincinatti - 38,088
If nothing else you guys will get to experience big boy in conference road environments for a change although Texas fans will only have two opportunities for that next year.
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Texas obviously handled it well this season when they took care of business in a road environment in front of just over 100,000 in Tuscaloosa. You got a sweetheart conference road schedule in 2024 only having to travel to Texas A&M, Arkansas, and Vanderbilt. One very loud road environment, one very respectable underrated one, and one in which your fans will take over the stadium. Granted, you do travel to the Big House to take on Michigan out of conference.
Oklahoma not as fortunate having to travel to two very loud and difficult road environments at LSU and at Auburn coupled with two more Big 12 like stadiums albeit against very solid competition at Ole Miss and at Missouri. Difficult home games against Alabama and Tennessee along with a difficult neutral site opponent Texas make for a very difficult conference schedule first season in the league.
Here's where the SEC and Big 12 stadiums rank nationally with regards to capacity. The list does include NFL stadiums where bowl games or occasional neutral site college games are played as well. Those stadiums weren't included in the list below:
#4 Texas A&M - 102,733
#5 LSU - 102,321
#6 Tennessee - 101,915
#7 Texas - 100,119
#8 Alabama - 100,077
#9 Georgia - 92,746
#12 Florida - 88,548
#13 Auburn - 88,043
#14 Oklahoma - 86.112
#22 South Carolina - 77,559
#25 Arkansas - 76,212
#54 Ole Miss - 64,038
#59 Missouri - 61,620
#60 Iowa State - 61,500
#64 Mississippi State - 61,337
#65 Kentucky - 61,306
#69 Texas Tech - 60,454
#71 West Virginia - 60,000
#77 Oklahoma State - 55,509
#93 Kansas State - 50,000
#97 Kansas - 47,233
#101 Baylor - 45,140
#102 TCU - 45,000
#104 UCF - 44,206
#109 Houston - 40,000
#112 Vanderbilt - 39,790
#115 Cincinatti - 38,088
If nothing else you guys will get to experience big boy in conference road environments for a change although Texas fans will only have two opportunities for that next year.
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This post was edited on 12/12/23 at 8:07 am
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Posted on 12/12/23 at 8:13 am to Govt Tide
correct me if I am wrong, But Bama was around 102K when they did some upgrades which cut out about 2K seats.
Posted on 12/12/23 at 8:23 am to mrbroker
We've played in nice places before.
Posted on 12/12/23 at 8:25 am to Govt Tide
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Gone are the days when the largest conference stadium you travel to is 61,500 in Ames, Iowa.
Some of you guys live in a world of nonsense. Texas plays lots of OOC games in large stadiums (Bama this year, Michigan next year, etc.).
While I have tremendous respect for Bama, UGA and LSU, most of the SEC fricking sucks. I'm not worried about their gameday environments.
Posted on 12/12/23 at 8:34 am to Govt Tide
This is such an overrated narrative.
Utah holds like 60k people and was a tough environment for Florida week 1.
At UT we've had almost 100k people not be very engaged past the first quarter because the team wasn't good.
If you have a good team and the fans are engaged for the entire game, you can create a tough environment.
For every guy that gets nervous in front of a larger crowd, theres another that gets amped up.
Utah holds like 60k people and was a tough environment for Florida week 1.
At UT we've had almost 100k people not be very engaged past the first quarter because the team wasn't good.
If you have a good team and the fans are engaged for the entire game, you can create a tough environment.
For every guy that gets nervous in front of a larger crowd, theres another that gets amped up.
Posted on 12/12/23 at 8:34 am to mrbroker
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correct me if I am wrong, But Bama was around 102K when they did some upgrades which cut out about 2K seats.
It was up to 101,821 until the latest revision dropped about 1,800 seats.
Likewise, Neyland Stadium dropped from 104,037 in the early 2000s to the current capacity of 102,455.
Posted on 12/12/23 at 8:34 am to SneezyBeltranIsHere
Imagine the chip on one's shoulder to have posted that. (In fairness, didn't make it past the first couple of lines.)
Posted on 12/12/23 at 8:36 am to mrbroker
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Bama was around 102K
Posted on 12/12/23 at 8:38 am to Govt Tide
As long as it's 11 versus 11 on the field, we'll be okay
Posted on 12/12/23 at 8:43 am to VolSquatch
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This is such an overrated narrative.
Utah holds like 60k people and was a tough environment for Florida week 1.
At UT we've had almost 100k people not be very engaged past the first quarter because the team wasn't good.
If you have a good team and the fans are engaged for the entire game, you can create a tough environment.
For every guy that gets nervous in front of a larger crowd, theres another that gets amped up.
There is another factor that exists in the Big XII dynamic that SEC fans may not realize. And that is that those smaller stadiums are a lot louder when Oklahoma and Texas play there than when anybody else comes in there.
When OU and Texas come into an SEC venue, are they going to be extra special? I don't know. Are the fans going to be any louder than they would be for any other SEC rivalry type game. I don't think so. The decades of pent up frustration aren't going to be there for the fans of SEC teams.
Posted on 12/12/23 at 8:44 am to SneezyBeltranIsHere
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I'm not worried about their gameday environments.
61,000 cowbells might change your mind.
Posted on 12/12/23 at 8:53 am to Gunga Din
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When OU and Texas come into an SEC venue, are they going to be extra special? I don't know. Are the fans going to be any louder than they would be for any other SEC rivalry type game. I don't think so. The decades of pent up frustration aren't going to be there for the fans of SEC teams.
This was a picture of Williams Brice when 4-6 South Carolina played 6-4 Kentucky last year. I promise the fans would be even more hyped if Texas or OU came to town. Across the board in the SEC the environments are much tougher compared to the Big 12.
Posted on 12/12/23 at 8:56 am to Govt Tide
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#4 Texas A&M - 102,733
#5 LSU - 102,321
#6 Tennessee - 101,915
#7 Texas - 100,119
#8 Alabama - 100,077
#9 Georgia - 92,746
#12 Florida - 88,548
#13 Auburn - 88,043
#14 Oklahoma - 86.112
#22 South Carolina - 77,559
#25 Arkansas - 76,212
#54 Ole Miss - 64,038
#59 Missouri - 61,620
#60 Iowa State - 61,500
#64 Mississippi State - 61,337
#65 Kentucky - 61,306
#69 Texas Tech - 60,454
#71 West Virginia - 60,000
#77 Oklahoma State - 55,509
#93 Kansas State - 50,000
#97 Kansas - 47,233
#101 Baylor - 45,140
#102 TCU - 45,000
#104 UCF - 44,206
#109 Houston - 40,000
#112 Vanderbilt - 39,790
#115 Cincinatti - 38,088
In fairness, the teams in bold have only been in the Big XII for one season.
Posted on 12/12/23 at 8:57 am to Homesick Tiger
We’re going to get the cowbells banned. You’re welcome.
Posted on 12/12/23 at 9:00 am to Govt Tide
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SEC stadiums vs Big 12 "stadiums"
Been on the sidelines at the Iron Bowl as a guest of Auburn. Same for a massive game at Kyle Field. Been to Death Valley & BDS. They’re all wonderful environments and why I’m excited to join the SEC. It will only make us up our game.
Posted on 12/12/23 at 9:03 am to Jimmy Montrose
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Imagine the chip on one's shoulder to have posted that. (In fairness, didn't make it past the first couple of lines.)
If you would have read past the first couple of lines you would have seen where I acknowledged that Texas took care of business in a relatively easy way that's been extremely rare for an out of conference opponent during Saban's tenure at Alabama in a large hostile road environment early this season in Tuscaloosa.
My point wasn't that Texas and OU are suddenly going to wilt under the pressure of playing in front of much larger road crowds. I was just pointing out that you'll now experience road environments considerably different than what you're both use to in the Big 12.
There are currently 7 stadiums with capacities of 88,000+ in the SEC which is over 26,500+ larger than the largest true road environment either Texas or Oklahoma experience in conference in a given year. That doesn't mean either team will lose an extra road game each year though because there are other factors that others have mentioned that determine whether a team wins or loses on the road.
Having said that, I do think the road environments at both Tiger Stadium and Neyland Stadium were worth at least a couple of points and factored in at least a little bit to Alabama losing close games in those road games in 2022. That and the fact that both teams were very good last year and in fact a little bit better than Alabama last year.
Posted on 12/12/23 at 9:04 am to BevoBucks
OU hasn’t ever played in stadiums that big think we will be scared …. Tenn Ohio state etc .
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Posted on 12/12/23 at 9:04 am to SneezyBeltranIsHere
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Texas plays lots of OOC games in large stadiums (Bama this year, Michigan next year, etc.).
It's true the Horns have played some non-conference games in large, neutral stadiums. It's also true Tejas has played three true road games in stadiums with 80,000+ capacity in the past ten seasons.
It's very tough to win on the road in this conference. You'll see.
Posted on 12/12/23 at 9:05 am to Gunga Din
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And that is that those smaller stadiums are a lot louder when Oklahoma and Texas play there than when anybody else comes in there.
Blah blah blah
Posted on 12/12/23 at 9:05 am to Gunga Din
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There is another factor that exists in the Big XII dynamic that SEC fans may not realize. And that is that those smaller stadiums are a lot louder when Oklahoma and Texas play there than when anybody else comes in there.
When OU and Texas come into an SEC venue, are they going to be extra special? I don't know. Are the fans going to be any louder than they would be for any other SEC rivalry type game. I don't think so. The decades of pent up frustration aren't going to be there for the fans of SEC teams.
Do you think a rowdy 61,000 at Jack Trice has anything on a rowdy 88,000 at Jordan Hare or the Swamp?
Come tfrick on, man.
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