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re: Tennessee AD Danny White releases statement, goes HAM on NCAA

Posted on 2/1/24 at 10:48 pm to
Posted by jonnyanony
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Posted on 2/1/24 at 10:48 pm to
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A mega conference will only be schools that actually give a shite about football and will gladly pay their players. We don’t need to be under the same umbrella as Western Kentucky and Lipscomb.


This doesn't mean anything. Simply paying players doesn't fix the problem here - competing interests in a collective meaning selective, inconsistent, and sometimes targeted enforcement of members.
Posted by LewEvansFan
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Posted on 2/1/24 at 10:48 pm to
Not to mention at this point it’s just a bloated organization that only exists to keep making sure they get a paycheck.
Posted by jonnyanony
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Posted on 2/1/24 at 10:49 pm to
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that only exists to keep making sure they get a paycheck.


It exists as a buffer from schools that wish to continue to exploit "student athletes."

That's all it's ever been. It's a boogieman.
Posted by LewEvansFan
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Posted on 2/1/24 at 10:50 pm to
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Simply paying players doesn't fix the problem here - competing interests in a collective meaning selective, inconsistent, and sometimes targeted enforcement of members.


These are just words. It’s a professional league at that point.
Posted by jonnyanony
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Posted on 2/1/24 at 10:52 pm to
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These are just words. It’s a professional league at that point.


Still changes absolutely nothing.

The idea that the schools that designed and propagated a system will suddenly abandon it for a version that will negatively impact their bottom line is incredibly naive.
Posted by LewEvansFan
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Posted on 2/1/24 at 10:54 pm to
They didn’t. It’s a dinosaur.
Posted by LewEvansFan
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Posted on 2/1/24 at 10:56 pm to
It’s a modern miracle we have any professional sports leagues.
Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
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Posted on 2/1/24 at 10:57 pm to
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They didn’t. It’s a dinosaur.


That's a platitude.

The dinosaur has done exactly what the schools want it to. For decades.

Yes, individual members will feel aggrieved now and again, as Tennessee is now. But in aggregate every school likes how this works. It protects their bottom line and the status quo.

The schools don't want to change. They want things as they are (or better, were). If you believe otherwise you are incredibly naive.
Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
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Posted on 2/1/24 at 10:57 pm to
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It’s a modern miracle we have any professional sports leagues.


If they were all attached to universities, we probably wouldn't.

But they aren't. So they operate in ways that make more sense to us.
Posted by LewEvansFan
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Posted on 2/1/24 at 10:59 pm to
Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
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Posted on 2/1/24 at 11:00 pm to
I know what the board of governors is.

Again, I think there will be change in the near future. But these changes will not preclude a situation like we see now with NCAA and UT. It will operate organizationally as it does today.
Posted by Chip82
Athens, Georgia
Member since Jan 2023
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Posted on 2/1/24 at 11:01 pm to
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Do we think the federal government is going to say that the NCAA cannot attempt to dampen bidding on potential transfers…


The potential NIL athletic deal is predicated on enrollment in a college or university as a student first.

Is the typical fan going to want to watch an athlete compete on the LSU Tigers of the SEC or the Red Stick Ramblers of the Bayou semi-pro football league?

In other words, the money is still being generated by traditional collegiate branding.


Posted by LewEvansFan
Member since Mar 2023
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Posted on 2/1/24 at 11:02 pm to
I don’t know about you but the chancellor at the University of South Carolina Aiken is not who we need making decisions for the SEC and Big 10.
Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
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Posted on 2/1/24 at 11:03 pm to
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I don’t know about you but the chancellor at the University of South Carolina Aiken is not who we need making decisions for the SEC and Big 10.


The SEC and Big 10 are 100% happy with it. Think about why.

It's working as intended.
Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
10473 posts
Posted on 2/1/24 at 11:03 pm to
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The potential NIL athletic deal is predicated on enrollment in a college or university as a student first.


Let's be honest: it has absolutely nothing to do with being a student, much less first.
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 2/1/24 at 11:05 pm to
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Livvy Dunne says hi
she's making TikTok whore money. It's not going to be Libby Dunne suing, it's going to be whoever the Auburn tennis coach was scissoring
Posted by LewEvansFan
Member since Mar 2023
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Posted on 2/1/24 at 11:08 pm to
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The SEC and Big 10 are 100% happy with it. Think about why. It's working as intended.


They aren’t.
Posted by DeathByTossDive225
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2019
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Posted on 2/1/24 at 11:12 pm to
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The potential NIL athletic deal is predicated on enrollment in a college or university as a student first.

The brands do matter, but in NIL terms — scholarship only matters to the extent needed to qualify.

Anyhow, the point was — DOJ is backing the transfer portal suit, because NIL. Why wouldn’t DOJ back Tenner/Virginia suit following the same logic?

The only thing that can save the NCAA from antitrust (given the DOJ’s implication) would be arguing that their regulation efforts here are pro-competitive.

For the record, I think that’s a good argument — you need only look to the NFL & its antitrust exemption for precedent.
This post was edited on 2/1/24 at 11:23 pm
Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
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Posted on 2/1/24 at 11:17 pm to
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They aren’t.


They absolutely are. It's what they designed.
Posted by LewEvansFan
Member since Mar 2023
2959 posts
Posted on 2/1/24 at 11:48 pm to
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They absolutely are. It's what they designed.


They aren’t. They didn’t, those people are dead.
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