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re: Riddle me this, Danny Sheridan

Posted on 8/18/11 at 9:29 am to
Posted by tkane311
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Posted on 8/18/11 at 9:29 am to
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I don't think he was referring to 1 source for 20-25 years, but having sources in the ncaa for 20-25 years.


You may be right, but Finebaum, del Greco and Jay Barker all took it the way I did.
Posted by Govt Tide
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 8/18/11 at 9:29 am to
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Sheridan wants to clear his name.. i would too. not saying he isn't a shameless self-promoter, but i would be too if i were in his shoes. nothing wrong with that. but yesterday's agenda was to clear his name.

all you guys that wanna pile on him have your reasons... but they're all bad.


THIS. The only mistake Sheridan made was promoting his appearance when he wasn't able to reveal the info he has. In fact, that's the mistake he's made in all 3 of his appearances. Why not just tweet about the info you have and then just shut up about it unless you can elaborate on the info you have. He was dumb to go on Finebaum knowing he couldn't elaborate. That's just setting yourself up for ridicule.

The point that everyone is missing is that Sheridan is claiming to have sources at the NCAA that claim to know who the bagman is and have a witness as well. The bigger question is has the bagman or the witness sung to the NCAA?? It doesn't sound like that has happened yet but they obviously think they know exactly who these 2 important people are. The better question to ask is whether or not these people will talk to the NCAA. If the NCAA knows who these people are they still have a few years to have these people go on the record before the SOL runs out.
Posted by Rex
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Posted on 8/18/11 at 9:32 am to
Auburn or somebody close to Auburn paid Cam Newton to play there.

I know it, you know it, everybody knows it.
Posted by tkane311
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Posted on 8/18/11 at 9:34 am to
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The only mistake Sheridan made was promoting his appearance when he wasn't able to reveal the info he has
Pretty big mistake

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The point that everyone is missing is that Sheridan is claiming to have sources at the NCAA that claim to know who the bagman is and have a witness as well


Yes, that is how it started. It evolved into "I know who they are" and then further into "I'm gonna come on Finebaum and tell everyone who they are"....then 2 days before his appearance that had been promoted...by himself for a couple of weeks, he started backtracking and now we have a scenario that looks exactly like that other douche who claimed to have tapes...hid behind his "lawyers", and when his whole career came apart and he was being ushered into obscurity, the only thing he had to do to rescue himself was to release the tapes...which he didn't do, proving he never had them to begin with. These 2 situations are eerily similar. Only we already knew that guy was a nutcase...this just doesn't seem to fit with DS.
Posted by Rex
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Posted on 8/18/11 at 9:36 am to
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The point that everyone is missing is that Sheridan is claiming to have sources at the NCAA that claim to know who the bagman is and have a witness as well. The bigger question is has the bagman or the witness sung to the NCAA?? It doesn't sound like that has happened yet but they obviously think they know exactly who these 2 important people are. The better question to ask is whether or not these people will talk to the NCAA. If the NCAA knows who these people are they still have a few years to have these people go on the record before the SOL runs out.

The NCAA has a powerful tool in its bag: if it knows who gave Newton the money it can alert the IRS.
Posted by Thracken13
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Posted on 8/18/11 at 9:37 am to
yawn.

insert obligatory - "show me Proof" response.
Posted by tkane311
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Posted on 8/18/11 at 9:38 am to
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Auburn or somebody close to Auburn paid Cam Newton to play there


The NCAA doesn't know it, the FBI doesn't know it, Yahoo sports doesn't know it, not even Sports by Brooks knows it...but guess what creole cousin fricker does know it? It's time time you go pole the pirogue down the bayou.

Posted by crimsonsaint
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 8/18/11 at 9:41 am to
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The NCAA doesn't know it, the FBI doesn't know it, Yahoo sports doesn't know it, not even Sports by Brooks knows it


Danny Sheridan knows it.
Posted by Govt Tide
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 8/18/11 at 9:48 am to
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Yes, that is how it started. It evolved into "I know who they are" and then further into "I'm gonna come on Finebaum and tell everyone who they are"....then 2 days before his appearance that had been promoted...by himself for a couple of weeks, he started backtracking and now we have a scenario that looks exactly like that other douche who claimed to have tapes...hid behind his "lawyers", and when his whole career came apart and he was being ushered into obscurity, the only thing he had to do to rescue himself was to release the tapes...which he didn't do, proving he never had them to begin with. These 2 situations are eerily similar. Only we already knew that guy was a nutcase...this just doesn't seem to fit with DS.


That's PARTLY true. However, both those situations are similar in a couple of other ways as well. Mainly that people have misquoted what Sheridan and Scott Moore claimed. In late July Sheridan said he would probably have the bagman's name in 2 or 3 weeks and HE MAY OR MAY NOT reveal it on his next appearance. He CLEARLY made that distinction if you hear the tape from his late July appearance. From that standpoint, he's still been 100% truthful in doing/not doing what he said he would do/not do.

Same with Scott Moore. He only claimed that he has heard "the tapes" and hoped to reveal them but he also commented that those tapes were in someone else's possession.

In BOTH cases, Sheridan and Moore claimed to have come upon information that depended on a 3rd party to act on. An NCAA source in Sheridan's case and an MSU booster(s) in Moore's case. The biggest mistake both made is relying on a 3rd party to acting on the info those 3rd parties gave them. When you have to rely on others to prove or back up your story you run the risk of them not doing so and leaving you out to dry. That's what has happened in these 2 cases. It doesn't mean Sheridan and Moore are liars. It just means they were foolish enough to go on the record about allegations where the evidence for those allegations were under someone else's control.
Posted by m2pro
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 8/18/11 at 9:52 am to
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Govt Tide


you care too much. anyone told you that? you're a carer.... big smooshy carebear.

I don't care if most boogs see the truth about all this. I just like putting my angle on the truth out there and let folks conclude whatever.

I only get riled up over the good guys in crimson.
Posted by piggidyphish
Birmingham
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 8/18/11 at 9:53 am to
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Auburn or somebody close to Auburn paid Cam Newton to play there.

I know it, you know it, everybody knows it


Are we really back to this shite again?

Consipracy theories aren't panning out so gotta dust off this catch all?
Posted by tkane311
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Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 8/18/11 at 9:58 am to
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It doesn't mean Sheridan and Moore are liars
It doesn't mean they aren't liars either. If Moore isn't a liar, he owes somebody a "to within an inch of their life" arse whipping.
Posted by beatbammer
Member since Sep 2010
38046 posts
Posted on 8/18/11 at 9:58 am to
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you scaredy cat boogs are letting your fear control you.

there's one major element to this story.... the alleged bagman may not even a real bagman. the guy may not even be a damn witness... Sheridan is ONLY CLAIMING that he was told -A- name.... he can't speak to its validity concerning the story with the Newtons.

chill the f'k out boogs!

i mean, i'd tell you who i was told was the bagman by a reliable source, but why would i do that? i don't wanna make the guy lose his job.



Posted by tkane311
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Posted on 8/18/11 at 9:59 am to
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I don't care if most boogs see the truth about all this.


Yet here you are anyway. You know the truth? Well hell, that's all I was asking for. Please do tell
Posted by BamaAlum02
Huntsville, AL
Member since Nov 2005
1017 posts
Posted on 8/18/11 at 10:00 am to
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Question, Danny. Does the NCAA tend to protect info pretty well? Duh...yes. When was the last time anyone remembers legitimate info leaking out of the NCAA prematurely. They do a GREAT job of protecting info.


I didn't read the whole post but this part is totally wrong. When Alabama was getting investigated for Means information was leaking out like crazy. Tennstud posted the exact sanctions the day before they were announced.

That said, Sheridan is a tool and let's play some football.
Posted by beatbammer
Member since Sep 2010
38046 posts
Posted on 8/18/11 at 10:04 am to
quote:

Auburn or somebody close to Auburn paid Cam Newton to play there.

I know it, you know it, everybody knows it.



Posted by tkane311
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Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 8/18/11 at 10:05 am to
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I didn't read the whole post but this part is totally wrong
Maybe so back then...but I can't remember any case in the last few years that has leaked out...certainly nothing recently.
Posted by heartbreakTiger
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Posted on 8/18/11 at 10:05 am to
your 2nd best thread ever
Posted by tkane311
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Member since Oct 2009
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Posted on 8/18/11 at 10:06 am to
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your 2nd best thread ever
I know

I went thru the SECsys yesterday and didn't see my name on there. It must be a mistake.

Posted by heartbreakTiger
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Member since Jan 2008
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Posted on 8/18/11 at 10:07 am to
clearly they were rigged
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