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re: Question on Freeze's behavior at Briarcrest Christian School in relation to Ole Miss
Posted on 7/26/17 at 1:26 pm to hubreb
Posted on 7/26/17 at 1:26 pm to hubreb
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Almost all those guys were walk-ons
what type of D1 players do you think MUS has largely has playing for them? Maybe you're confusing MUS with Ensworth
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Posted on 7/26/17 at 1:27 pm to OldRebYeller
I highly doubt Freeze sexually assaulted students
Posted on 7/26/17 at 1:38 pm to ABearsFanNMS
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ABearsFanNMS
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Once again the point is using 2017 societal values/morals to judge actions in 2000 to 2004.
Question....
Exactly what minute, hour, day, week, month, year
, decade or century is it morally acceptable for a high school teacher/coach to have inappropriate contact with a student?
The fact that these predators usually have a keen sense about which prey is the easy prey never makes it acceptable.
This post was edited on 7/26/17 at 2:29 pm
Posted on 7/26/17 at 1:40 pm to msudawg1200
Posted on 7/26/17 at 1:43 pm to lsufball19
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I graduated from MUS in 2003
Hmmm. Wonder if I know you.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 1:54 pm to lsufball19
Tyler Horn ‘07 – Miami (Fla)
Zach Scott ‘07 – San Diego State
John Stokes ‘07 – Vanderbilt
Michael Folk ‘09 – North Carolina
Cliff Jones ‘09 – Auburn
Taylor Reed ‘09 – Mississippi State
Walt Wepfer ‘09 – Vanderbilt
Barry Brunetti ‘10 – West Virginia, Ole Miss
Christian Kauffman ‘10 – Alabama
Henry Dickinson ‘11 – Illinois
Toby Baker ‘12 – Arkansas
Ben Benton ‘12 – Arkansas, Arkansas St
Alex Dale ‘12 – Cincinnati, MTSU
Ben Still ‘12 – Ole Miss
Ford Howell ‘13 – North Carolina State
Devin Perry ‘14 – North Carolina
James Prather ‘14 – Northwestern
Gary Wunderlich ‘14 – Ole Miss
MaLeik Gatewood ‘15 – Tennessee
Peyton Jones ‘15 – Memphis
Drew Richmond ‘15 – Tennessee
Tim Hart ‘16 – Memphis
Thomas Pickens ‘16 – Memphis
Have no idea if walk-on or schollie for most, but Still, brunette, Richmond were all scholarship guys
Zach Scott ‘07 – San Diego State
John Stokes ‘07 – Vanderbilt
Michael Folk ‘09 – North Carolina
Cliff Jones ‘09 – Auburn
Taylor Reed ‘09 – Mississippi State
Walt Wepfer ‘09 – Vanderbilt
Barry Brunetti ‘10 – West Virginia, Ole Miss
Christian Kauffman ‘10 – Alabama
Henry Dickinson ‘11 – Illinois
Toby Baker ‘12 – Arkansas
Ben Benton ‘12 – Arkansas, Arkansas St
Alex Dale ‘12 – Cincinnati, MTSU
Ben Still ‘12 – Ole Miss
Ford Howell ‘13 – North Carolina State
Devin Perry ‘14 – North Carolina
James Prather ‘14 – Northwestern
Gary Wunderlich ‘14 – Ole Miss
MaLeik Gatewood ‘15 – Tennessee
Peyton Jones ‘15 – Memphis
Drew Richmond ‘15 – Tennessee
Tim Hart ‘16 – Memphis
Thomas Pickens ‘16 – Memphis
Have no idea if walk-on or schollie for most, but Still, brunette, Richmond were all scholarship guys
Posted on 7/26/17 at 1:58 pm to BobLeeDagger
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I received a text from a source (friend of mine) who told me about Freeze's calls 2 weeks before the story broke. I was hesistant to believe him until it actually happened. Well.....he texted me back again yesterday, and said that sometime this week we could hear about the escorts being for recruits, and in numbers approaching 100...I find it hard to believe, but my friend was spot on 3 weeks ago. I have a hard time believing the Briarcrest story and I think this is what Steve is referring too.
You've put this in 2 threads. Post a screenshot of the text 3 weeks ago or stfu
Posted on 7/26/17 at 1:59 pm to hubreb
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Have no idea if walk-on or schollie for most, but Still, brunette, Richmond were all scholarship guys
yes, they were, but the vast majority of those guys come from rich families and/or are MUS legacies. I never said MUS didn't have good players. I just don't know where you got the notion that we've been recruiting high caliber D1 athletes for years. Brunetti was the first guy I can think of that was recruited to play football. Certainly did not happen when I was there. I mean look at the names of these kids. They're almost all yuppy white kids.
This post was edited on 7/26/17 at 2:00 pm
Posted on 7/26/17 at 2:02 pm to lsufball19
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Brunetti was the first guy I can think of that was recruited to play football.
AHA!! So they DID recruit.
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I just don't know where you got the notion that we've been recruiting high caliber D1 athletes for years.
Heck, MUS is been good for as long as I can remember. They beat Briarcrest every year I went there, and that was back when MUS was A (Maybe AA, but only A I think) and Briarcrest was AAA. Of course, in my four years, we won at most 7 or 8 games. Total. Good we were not.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 2:23 pm to OldRebYeller
Unfortunately,Ole Miss hired him and is responsible. If it was not caught in the background checks, so be it. I'm not saying it is right out wrong, it just is.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 2:27 pm to I-59 Tiger
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Please tell me this is just a bad rumor.That is beyond awful.
The girl who made the allegation posted it publicly to Facebook.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 2:28 pm to SSpaniel
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Heck, MUS is been good for as long as I can remember. They beat Briarcrest every year I went there, and that was back when MUS was A (Maybe AA, but only A I think) and Briarcrest was AAA. Of course, in my four years, we won at most 7 or 8 games. Total. Good we were not.
MUS was in 4A prior to TSSAA moving private schools to a different division. We always played in a higher division than we qualified for based on student body size. Then, MUS was in the large private school division and Briarcrest the small. MUS has always, as long as I can remember, been in a higher division than Briarcrest until more recently when Briarcrest moved up, along with schools like ECS and St. Benedict. But yes, we've always owned Briarcrest in football. I think the first win Briacrest ever had against MUS was like 2001.
My point was MUS didn't start recruiting athletes at all until the mid to late 2000s. Personally, I don't care for it. You can thank a certain old money member of the MUS staff that wanted to "integrate" MUS, but instead of integrating MUS they just started integrating it with students who happened to also be good at sports. It's still very minimal compared to schools like Ensworth and Brentwood Academy. Brentwood has been recruiting high caliber athletes forever
This post was edited on 7/26/17 at 2:31 pm
Posted on 7/26/17 at 2:29 pm to Herman Frisco
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But if it is proven he had sex with a student he will be in the pen for a long long time.
Statute of limitations has long passed on that. He won't be in any legal trouble from his time at Briarcrest, even if all of the rumors were 100% true. At worst, he'd be looking at felony sexual battery or statuatory rape, both of which have a 4 year statute.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 2:30 pm to OldRebYeller
There should be no punishment based on anything he did prior to becoming head coach at Ole Miss.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 2:30 pm to Billy Mays
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Rosebowl himself said yesterday on the radio that there is no evidence that escorts were for recruiting, so...
There's no evidence they weren't for recruits. That the first escort phone number to become public is in the vicinity of IMG Academy seems to suggest at least some were.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 2:32 pm to Number 31
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That the first escort phone number to become public is in the vicinity of IMG Academy seems to suggest at least some were.
How so? Where was Hugh when the call was made?
Posted on 7/26/17 at 2:32 pm to D500MAG
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Exactly what minute, hour, day, week, month, year, decade or century is it morally acceptable for a high school teacher/coach to have inappropriate contact with a student?
To be fair, teacher/student affairs and even long term relationships that led to marriage was fairly common until fairly recently (1980s, probably). Most states didn't even have laws against it until the last decade or so. Alabama didn't even have a law on the books about it until 2010.
The grabbing, forcing a 13 year old to strip, etc... are on a completely different level all together and not what I'm referencing here.
This post was edited on 7/26/17 at 2:34 pm
Posted on 7/26/17 at 2:33 pm to D500MAG
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Exactly what minute, hour, day, week, month, year, decade or century is it morally acceptable for a high school teacher/coach to have inappropriate contact with a student?
At what point did I say it was? I was referring to forcing students to change their shirts. Hate to tell you but the public school I went to North of the Mason-Dixon Line this happened on the regular. In regards to the allegations of inappropriate or worse yet sexual contact I have no clue if it's true. If Briarcrest covered it up, which I find really hard to believe, then it's on them.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 2:34 pm to lsufball19
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My point was MUS didn't start recruiting athletes at all until the mid to late 2000s.
ECS was recruiting in the early 80s. They recruited our best player away from us. Well, he switched schools and that's what we chalked it up to.
Posted on 7/26/17 at 2:34 pm to I-59 Tiger
Everything I've read bout Briarcrest originates from 2 girls' FaceBook pages. Point being, anything from that source is just gossip until proof pops up.
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