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QB Ratings to date - Clean vs Pressure (per PFF)

Posted on 9/12/24 at 10:25 am
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 9/12/24 at 10:25 am
College QB Stats - NFL QB Rating

When Kept Clean

1. Jaxson Dart (MISS) (158.3)
2. Ethan Hampton (NIU) (156.8)
3. Thomas Castellanos (BC) (156.3)
4. Cam Rising (Utah) (153.8)
5. Jalen Milroe (Bama) (152.9)
6. Blake Shapen (Miss St) (150.6)
7. Joe Fagnano (UConn) (150.4)
8. Darian Mensah (Tulane) (148.3)
9. Will Rogers (UW) (147.1)
10. Brendan Sorsby (Cincy) (146.8)

11. Cam Ward (Miami) (146.0)
14. Carson Beck (UGA) (143.4)
16. Nico Iamaleava (UT) (139.8)
17. Will Howard (OSU) (139.0)
19. Diego Pavia (VAN) (130.4)
21. Taylen Green (ARK) (124.0)
22. Drew Allar (PSU) (136.2)
25. Garrett Nussmeier (LSU) (131.7)
28. Quinn Ewers (Texas) (130.6)
40. Jackson Arnold (OU) (119.6)
52. Miller Moss (USC) (112.2)
54. Shedeur Sanders (COL) (110.1)
60. Brady Cook (MIZ) (107.7)
79. Peyton Thorne (AUB) (96.0)
97. DJ Uiagalelei (FSU) (87.0)
99. Conner Weigman (A&M) (86.0)



When Pressured (min 12 pressured drop backs)

1. Anthony Colandrea (UVA) (145.8)
2. Joey Aguilar (App St) (130.5)
3. Keyone Jenkins (FIU) (128.2)
4. Garrett Greene (WVU) (127.1)
5. Sam Leavitt (ASU) (122.9)
6. Jaxson Dart (MISS) (118.8)
6. Diego Pavia (Vandy) (116.4)
7. Shedeur Sanders (COL) (110.7)
8. Tyler Shough (VILLE) (108.7)
10. Christian Veilleux (GA ST) (107.5)

11. Garrett Nussmeier (LSU) (106.9)
13. Dylan Raiola (NEB) (101.3)
14. Cam Ward (MIA) (100.8)
20. Miller Moss (USC) (97.0)
24. Jalen Milroe (Bama) (95.4)
40. Blake Shapen (Miss St) (73.8)
48. Quinn Ewers (TEX) (69.1)
51. Payton Thorne (AUB) (66.7)
62. Jackson Arnold (OU) (57.9)
74. DJ Uiagalelei (FSU) (48.3)
80. Taylen Green (ARK) (41.9)
96. Nico Iamaleava (UT) (28.5)
97. Brady Cook (MIZ) (25.7)
104. Conner Weigman (A&M) (8.8)
This post was edited on 9/12/24 at 12:06 pm
Posted by Jebadeb
Member since Oct 2017
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Posted on 9/12/24 at 10:30 am to
Suprised to see Nuss higher under pressure. Seems like he throws the ball away with any sign of pressure.
Posted by SEC Doctor
Member since Aug 2024
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Posted on 9/12/24 at 10:30 am to
I’m surprised at Nuss’ numbers. He has thrown several checkdowns when pressured. I wonder if PFF views a completed checkdown (for example a 6-yard completion on third and 8) favorably or not. A couple of those really hurt LSU against USC.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
104983 posts
Posted on 9/12/24 at 10:31 am to
quote:

I’m surprised at Nuss’ numbers. He has thrown several checkdowns when pressured. I wonder if PFF views a completed checkdown (for example a 6-yard completion on third and 8) favorably or not. A couple of those really hurt LSU against USC.


It's not a grade, it's just calculating the stats when they are pressured vs when they aren't.

Nuss
12 pressured drop backs
7/12 (58.3%)
82 yards
6.8 YPA
1 TD
0 INT


Something like success rate would probably show a more negative number if the things you say are true. A 6 yard completion on 3rd and 9 would be unsuccessful, but it isn't taken into account in terms of just pure overall stats.

Nuss is #33 out of 110 in YPA under pressure. He is #42 out of 110 in average depth of target (13.0 yards).
This post was edited on 9/12/24 at 10:37 am
Posted by BevoBucks
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Member since Dec 2022
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Posted on 9/12/24 at 10:33 am to
quote:

99. Conner Weigman (A&M) (86.0)

quote:

104. Conner Weigman (A&M) (8.8)
Posted by Gator Fever
Member since Sep 2021
2557 posts
Posted on 9/12/24 at 10:33 am to
Yep PFF acts like a joke checkdown under pressure is a nice pass made when its an easy pass in reality.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
104983 posts
Posted on 9/12/24 at 10:34 am to
quote:

Yep PFF acts like a joke checkdown under pressure is a nice pass made when its an easy pass in reality.


PFF grades are garbage, but these aren't grades. They're just compiling general stats by filter - clean, pressure, blitzed, no blitz.
Posted by Gator Fever
Member since Sep 2021
2557 posts
Posted on 9/12/24 at 10:37 am to
To me a good system wouldn't reward a QB hardly at all for a checkdown completed short of the 1st down marker on 3rd downs.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
104983 posts
Posted on 9/12/24 at 10:38 am to
quote:

To me a good system wouldn't reward a QB hardly at all for a checkdown completed short of the 1st down marker on 3rd downs.


Agree - success rate would give you that metric.

Nuss, for example

- pressured on 12 drop backs
- converted 3 of those 12 into 1st downs

Now, that doesn't differentiate between what down it is, so some of those pressures were on 1st and 2nd down, so getting 6 yards on 1st and 10 would be a "success".
This post was edited on 9/12/24 at 10:40 am
Posted by deeprig9
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Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 9/12/24 at 11:23 am to
Do I take this to mean Beck has yet to be pressured at least 12 times?
Posted by Hawgeye
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Member since Jun 2009
31827 posts
Posted on 9/12/24 at 11:29 am to
Where is Taylen Green?
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
44959 posts
Posted on 9/12/24 at 11:38 am to
Any defensive coordinator that doesnt blitz Nico IamaLeava needs to get kicked in the nuts.
Posted by HottyToddy7
Member since Sep 2010
15247 posts
Posted on 9/12/24 at 11:44 am to
quote:

I’m surprised at Nuss’ numbers. He has thrown several checkdowns when pressured. I wonder if PFF views a completed checkdown (for example a 6-yard completion on third and 8) favorably or not. A couple of those really hurt LSU against USC.


Some of yall are football retarded. USC took the deep ball away. Would you rather him throw it into double coverage? They brought pressure, took away the deep ball and came up and tackled. He can only throw to who is open.
Posted by tiger37101
Member since Feb 2010
5 posts
Posted on 9/12/24 at 11:49 am to
Did you even watch the first two games. Rating done mean shite because when they blitzed he ran for yards or checked down.
Posted by Hback
Member since Aug 2017
11403 posts
Posted on 9/12/24 at 12:01 pm to
Hearing that Hank Brown will start Saturday (fwiw).
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
104983 posts
Posted on 9/12/24 at 12:06 pm to
quote:

Where is Taylen Green?


Added
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
104983 posts
Posted on 9/12/24 at 12:07 pm to
quote:

Do I take this to mean Beck has yet to be pressured at least 12 times?


Correct

Beck vs Pressure
9 dropbacks
2 sacks
3 scrambles
1/4 (25%)
2 yards
0.5 YPA
39.6 QB Rating
This post was edited on 9/12/24 at 12:08 pm
Posted by Tornado Alley
Member since Mar 2012
27663 posts
Posted on 9/12/24 at 12:10 pm to
Where da SOG predictions for this weekend be?
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
104983 posts
Posted on 9/12/24 at 12:12 pm to
quote:

Tornado Alley



My man!

Just bumped them for you
Posted by BigBro
Member since Jul 2021
17278 posts
Posted on 9/12/24 at 12:12 pm to
Could we perhaps find a way to evaluate the decrease when pressured?

____ is 150 when clean
____ is 75 when pressured

50% Drop

____ is 120 when clean
____ is 150 when pressured

25% increase

Could we then get a ranking of the QBs that perform better under pressure? Worse under pressure?
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