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Nico’s money problems

Posted on 4/22/25 at 7:31 am
Posted by Grinder
Member since Nov 2007
2294 posts
Posted on 4/22/25 at 7:31 am
I’m pretty sure Nico’s dad doesn’t work. He’s the classic mooch, living off his son’s money.

I wouldn’t be surprised if the decision to squeeze TN for more cash originated with the dad, but the guy’s too dumb to foresee the risk involved with such a poorly conceived idea.

Now Nico’s at UCLA, getting around 1.5 before taxes. So that’s less than 800K after taxes. Still a lot of money, but not nearly as much as it sounds with expensive CA prices for everything and this money being used by everyone to live on.

That dumpster fire of a family may look back at this decision as the beginning of the fall.

It could get so bad the dad may have to get a job too.
Posted by TheDeathValley
New Orleans, LA
Member since Sep 2010
18901 posts
Posted on 4/22/25 at 8:52 am to
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getting around 1.5 before taxes. So that’s less than 800K after taxes


Some of ya'll act like tax experts, pretending to have any idea how tax for NIL works.
Posted by Victor R Franko
Member since Dec 2021
738 posts
Posted on 4/22/25 at 8:55 am to
He'll be in a 12.3% California income tax bracket.
37% Federal tax bracket, assuming he's not married.
NIL considered income? It damn sure isn't long term capital gains. 800K is probably close even if he claims 10 dependents.
This post was edited on 4/22/25 at 9:03 am
Posted by tdme
Member since Jan 2022
220 posts
Posted on 4/22/25 at 9:10 am to
If you are filing as single, the 37% federal tax bracket starts at $626k. You don't pay 37% tax on every dollar earned.

The California 12.3% tax bracket starts at over $700k.

But he will pay a huge amount of taxes.
Posted by Victor R Franko
Member since Dec 2021
738 posts
Posted on 4/22/25 at 9:23 am to
Yeah, you're correct. I forgot about the brackets being progressive. His real difference is the California tax.

Using this simply example website, he'll certainly get a big wet bite taken out of his arse. He needs Andy Dufresne.

Cali tax calculator
This post was edited on 4/22/25 at 9:43 am
Posted by SouthernInsanity
Shadows of Death Valley
Member since Nov 2012
21844 posts
Posted on 4/22/25 at 10:01 am to
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Some of ya'll act like tax experts, pretending to have any idea how tax for NIL works.


Then explain how it works so that these kids end up paying little to no taxes.

And let's be quiet... we have an NIL tax expert that's going to be chiming in.
Posted by PeleofAnalytics
Member since Jun 2021
3969 posts
Posted on 4/22/25 at 10:02 am to
California's top rate is going up to 13.3% in 2025.

2025 State Tax Brackets
Posted by SouthernInsanity
Shadows of Death Valley
Member since Nov 2012
21844 posts
Posted on 4/22/25 at 10:03 am to
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He’s the classic mooch, living off his son’s money.



Exhibit 1


Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
35158 posts
Posted on 4/22/25 at 10:07 am to
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Some of ya'll act like tax experts, pretending to have any idea how tax for NIL works.



Some of yall bash ppl on how things work without telling us how things work.
Posted by BlindedMeWithScience
VFL in B1G country
Member since Jun 2023
2568 posts
Posted on 4/22/25 at 10:13 am to
tbqh, I think all the men in that family are mentally retarded
Posted by PeleofAnalytics
Member since Jun 2021
3969 posts
Posted on 4/22/25 at 10:15 am to
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Some of ya'll act like tax experts, pretending to have any idea how tax for NIL works.


Tell us how you think it works. I am a tax expert and NIL works just the same way any other income you earn works. Some states are playing with exempting it but there is NO WAY IN THE WORLD California will be one of those states. With few exceptions (like military, rail workers, truck drivers, etc), if you perform a service in the physical boundaries of a state with an individual income tax, you have to file an individual income tax return in that state regardless of whether you claim residence in another state. California and New York are like the Terminator when it comes to claiming income needs to be sourced in that state. You still report that income in your state of residence meaning you are usually double taxed but most states provide taxpayers with some sort of credit for taxes paid to other states to lessen that burden

But tell us what was said that you feel was incorrect? Most people here have gotten the general idea correct that he will now be paying taxes at the highest marginal state tax rate in the country compared to 0% while in Tennessee. Throw in his slight pay cut and the fact the cost of living in LA compared to Knoxville is about 73% higher, he is taking a massive L.
Posted by TheDeathValley
New Orleans, LA
Member since Sep 2010
18901 posts
Posted on 4/22/25 at 11:54 am to
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But tell us what was said that you feel was incorrect?


I didn't say it was correct or incorrect. I just find it humorous when this board constantly bring up tax implications as a motivator, and frankly have no idea or a very limited understand of how it works.

Nobody here is making a million plus a year. These athletes have agents and accountants that absolutely work the system in their favor to lower the burden. Just throwing out random number (OP suggested 53%) is just fodder.
Posted by TheDeathValley
New Orleans, LA
Member since Sep 2010
18901 posts
Posted on 4/22/25 at 11:56 am to
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Then explain how it works so that these kids end up paying little to no taxes.



Never said they would pay "little" to "no taxes" actually.

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SouthernInsanity


Checks out
Posted by SouthernInsanity
Shadows of Death Valley
Member since Nov 2012
21844 posts
Posted on 4/22/25 at 12:28 pm to
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quote:
SouthernInsanity


Checks out


Posted by Hogwall Jackson
Member since Feb 2013
5193 posts
Posted on 4/22/25 at 12:43 pm to
Arkansas AD basically just insinuated they are going after them for NIL money they’ve already received.
Posted by PeleofAnalytics
Member since Jun 2021
3969 posts
Posted on 4/22/25 at 1:34 pm to
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Nobody here is making a million plus a year. These athletes have agents and accountants that absolutely work the system in their favor to lower the burden.


Again, as a tax accountant, we can only work so much magic. Tax law in the state is the tax law in the state and there are not many tricks you can use when you are getting a 1099 and the bulk of your expenses are being covered by your football program. This isn't some complicated corporate structure where you can play shell games. He is getting a 1099.

And 53% is not some wild number based off of 2 million dollars. A person making $2 million is paying about $692k of federal tax with an effective rate of about 34.5%. You are going to owe about $76k of self-employment tax since he is getting a 1099. Then throw on about $227k of California income tax at a 11.3% effective rate. Combine that all and it is about 49.8%. You going to quibble about him being off by 3.2%.
Posted by NWLA_Bama
Member since Aug 2024
497 posts
Posted on 4/22/25 at 1:47 pm to
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I didn't say it was correct or incorrect. I just find it humorous when this board constantly bring up tax implications as a motivator, and frankly have no idea or a very limited understand of how it works.

Nobody here is making a million plus a year. These athletes have agents and accountants that absolutely work the system in their favor to lower the burden. Just throwing out random number (OP suggested 53%) is just fodder.


You do realize there are probably accountants/tax preparers on this board? I've done tax returns with a lot more money on them than what Nico is making.
Posted by tigeraddict
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
13212 posts
Posted on 4/22/25 at 1:48 pm to
So according to the. Ali tax calculator he is taxes an additional $165k in stat taxes in Cali (Tenn has no state sales tax).

This would be on same money. Makes the $.4 to $1.5 look even worse.
Posted by NWLA_Bama
Member since Aug 2024
497 posts
Posted on 4/22/25 at 2:03 pm to
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So according to the. Ali tax calculator he is taxes an additional $165k in stat taxes in Cali (Tenn has no state sales tax).

This would be on same money. Makes the $.4 to $1.5 look even worse.


From a monetary standpoint, his situation definitely got a lot worse. He lost some serious coin with not just a lower NIL deal but paying more in taxes.
Posted by Ed Osteen
Member since Oct 2007
58278 posts
Posted on 4/22/25 at 2:27 pm to
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These athletes have agents and accountants that absolutely work the system in their favor to lower the burden.


Nico has neither of these
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