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re: Just eliminate the check swing please

Posted on 4/29/25 at 10:02 pm to
Posted by Rohan Gravy
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2017
19394 posts
Posted on 4/29/25 at 10:02 pm to
quote:

You’ve just described the current rule of the check swing.

So you don’t want to make any changes?


This is not hard

Just back up the “oh I changed my mind” rule to

If you start to swing the bat it’s a freaking strike

It’s really simple


Name me another play in any sport that you get a do over

That’s playground nonsense

A gold goal kicker…I didn’t follow through
Let me kick it again


A balk should be eliminated if a check swing is legal
I didn’t mean to do it, no harm no foul!

The problem with a check swing is the batter wins by making a mistake
He gets a ball instead of a strike
This post was edited on 4/29/25 at 10:06 pm
Posted by Rohan Gravy
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2017
19394 posts
Posted on 4/29/25 at 10:18 pm to
quote:

I would say, however, that the home plate umpire has a pretty bad angle on if the bat crossed the plate.


Nothing against you, but I think that’s a weak argument

Posted by Rohan Gravy
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2017
19394 posts
Posted on 4/29/25 at 10:22 pm to
quote:

So you don’t want to make any changes? I’m confused on your point lol. For example, if a batter turns his hips and the bat barely drops, are you saying that should be a swing?



If you start a swing it’s a strike

The dumbass behind the plate that is two feet away can make the call without asking another dumb arse 90 feet away
Posted by vidtiger23
Member since Feb 2012
5959 posts
Posted on 4/29/25 at 10:30 pm to
quote:

If you start a swing it’s a strike

That’s a very vague statement though. I’ll ask again, if a player turns his hips and the bat drops an inch from the starting point. Is that a swing? The rule is written to define what “starting a swing” means. It sounds like you want to just keep the same rule, but make the home plate umpire have authority of the call.
Posted by Rohan Gravy
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2017
19394 posts
Posted on 4/29/25 at 10:40 pm to
quote:

That’s a very vague statement though. I’ll ask again, if a player turns his hips and the bat drops an inch from the starting point. Is that a swing? The rule is written to define what “starting a swing” means. It sounds like you want to just keep the same rule, but make the home plate umpire have authority of the call.




Ok
That’s fair


But what I’m saying is there should be something in between

You shouldn’t be able to get your bat close to the plate but of course you can turn your hip and drop the bat an inch

That’s an easy call for the ump behind the plate or anybody else in the ballpark

Don’t pull the trigger if you don’t mean to shoot
This post was edited on 4/29/25 at 10:42 pm
Posted by Harry Boutte
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2024
1857 posts
Posted on 4/29/25 at 10:55 pm to
quote:

Like you can only move a little bit.

Well, that should take all the subjective judgement out of it. Problem solved.
Posted by Rohan Gravy
New Orleans
Member since Jan 2017
19394 posts
Posted on 4/29/25 at 11:08 pm to
quote:

quote:Like you can only move a little bit.

Well, that should take all the subjective judgement out of it. Problem solved.


Yes
It will

Can’t understand why so many are against this

I’ve always been against inconsistent rules in sports

The check swing is one of the most inconsistent rules in sports today

Well just make it you can’t move your bat forward if you can’t understand the difference between swinging the bat over the plate


Again I will ask anyone

How can a check swing be legal

But a balk is not?

A pitching rule vs. a batting rule
Posted by Harry Boutte
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2024
1857 posts
Posted on 4/29/25 at 11:58 pm to
But what do you mean by "a little bit"?
Posted by CrazyTigerFan
Osaka
Member since Nov 2003
3445 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 12:03 am to
quote:

Name me another play in any sport that you get a do over.
A pump fake pass, play action, or a run pass option in football. A flea flicker. A HB or WR pass.

Faking a shot or pass in basketball.

Taking a lead in baseball.
This post was edited on 4/30/25 at 12:06 am
Posted by OleManDixon
Lexington
Member since Jan 2018
9545 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 12:16 am to
If you don’t like the college rule, you must really hate the MLB version.
Posted by Landmass
Member since Jun 2013
21070 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 7:54 am to
I wish the Ole Miss players would eliminate the check swing on a meatball straight down the middle but they just can't seem to help themselves.
Posted by SouthernInsanity
Shadows of Death Valley
Member since Nov 2012
21939 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 7:57 am to
quote:

It seems like it would be an easy review.


Even last night.... LSU got a third strike call on a check swing that was exactly like the SLU player's check swing that was not ruled a strike.
Posted by lefty08
Not in Auburn or Louisiana
Member since Aug 2014
5879 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 8:43 am to
He’s got a better view of the play than the home plate guy behind the batter, and yes, the other umps are paying attention. I didn’t realize this was a joke, I thought you were actually serious. My apologies
Posted by LSUgrad88
Member since Jun 2009
7836 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 9:24 am to
quote:

Just eliminate the check swing please


The amount of stupid in just this one very short post is truly impressive. Congrats Rohan
Posted by TheTideMustRoll
Birmingham, AL
Member since Dec 2009
9603 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 9:40 am to
But making the rule that the bat can't cross the plate is an attempt to make the difference between a check swing and a full swing concrete and objective, because the plate is where the plate is. Anything else is subjective and the ump's opinion. So you want to make the rule that any started swing is a strike? Ok, then what constitutes a "started swing?" If I drop the bat slightly like I'm about to start a swing but then stop, does that count? What if I drop it a little more than that? What about a little more than that? Without a concrete point of reference, like the plate, you'd be taking a call that you are complaining about being too subjective and making it even more subjective.
Posted by Bloodworth
North Ga
Member since Oct 2007
4152 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 9:46 am to
The plate umpire should use his left eye to determine ball or strike. Use right eye to watch the bat. Problem solved.
Posted by captdalton
Member since Feb 2021
14807 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 9:47 am to
What about guys that wiggle their bat before they swing? They will strike out every time under your new proposed rule of “if the bat moves at all”. What about the guys that instinctively move their bat to their final position as the ball is thrown? Those guys too will strike out every at bat.

Have you really thought this through? It appears you have not.
Posted by theballguy
Member since Oct 2011
18192 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 10:00 am to
quote:

I’d say the correct calls happen on 95% of check swing calls



Probably more like 98%
Posted by theballguy
Member since Oct 2011
18192 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 10:01 am to
quote:

Taking a lead in baseball.



Clearly a cheat.
Posted by FreedomBarefoot
42° parallel
Member since Aug 2016
2433 posts
Posted on 4/30/25 at 10:05 am to
So you can't pull your bat back on a bunt attempt
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