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re: If you had control, how would you set up the new 4 pod SEC adding UT and OU?
Posted on 7/23/21 at 5:31 pm to fr33manator
Posted on 7/23/21 at 5:31 pm to fr33manator
We have to go to a 4 team division/pod system. I feel like if they decide to do east and west we are still going to have some sort of permanent cross division games.
My suggestion:
West:
Texas
Oklahoma
A&M
LSU
East:
South Carolina
Georgia
Florida
Tennessee
North:
Kentucky
Vandy
Arkansas
Missouri
Central:
Alabama
Auburn
Ole Miss
Mississippi State
My suggestion:
West:
Texas
Oklahoma
A&M
LSU
East:
South Carolina
Georgia
Florida
Tennessee
North:
Kentucky
Vandy
Arkansas
Missouri
Central:
Alabama
Auburn
Ole Miss
Mississippi State
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Posted on 7/23/21 at 5:36 pm to tiger25
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We have to go to a 4 team division/pod system.
No, we really don't have to, and I don't understand the obsession with it. Keep us all in one division; let teams work out 3 permanent opponents; rotate home and home with the rest of the teams over 4 yrs (requires 9 game schedule).
Posted on 7/23/21 at 5:40 pm to Indiana Tiger
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No, we really don't have to, and I don't understand the obsession with it. Keep us all in one division; let teams work out 3 permanent opponents; rotate home and home with the rest of the teams over 4 yrs (requires 9 game schedule).
It would take 16 years to play a home and home with each team from the other division if we do a 9 game schedule. That's what I currently hate about our current format and the pod system fixes that.
This post was edited on 7/23/21 at 5:43 pm
Posted on 7/23/21 at 5:45 pm to tiger25
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It would take 16 years to play a home and home with each team from the other division if we do a 9 game schedule. That's what I currently hate about our current format and the pod system fixes that.
What I described fixes that: i.e. it takes 4 years to do a home and home. The two methods are the same, but the single division allows more permanent game flexibility.
Posted on 7/23/21 at 5:48 pm to tiger25
Double pods - each team plays every team in their row and column each year (6 total games) and then 3 additional games. Keeps all important rivalries, is competitively balanced, works geographically, and each team will play a home and away against everyone over a 6 year period
Texas / OU / Vandy / SC
A&M / LSU / Tenn / UK
Arky / Mizzou / UF / UGA
MSU / Miss / Bama / AU
Texas / OU / Vandy / SC
A&M / LSU / Tenn / UK
Arky / Mizzou / UF / UGA
MSU / Miss / Bama / AU
Posted on 7/23/21 at 7:19 pm to rollthatback
I like your concept:
Your matrix:
Texas / OU / Vandy / SC
A&M / LSU / Tenn / UK
Arky / Mizzou / UF / UGA
MSU / Miss / Bama / AU
My reshuffling:
Texas / MSU /Bama/ AU
Arky/ A&M / LSU / UK
OK / UF / Tenn / UGA
Mizz/ Vandy / Miss / SC
If Top 8 teams are: LSU, OK, Tex, GA, UF, Bama, Aubie, A&M, then of the Top 8, two teams (LSU and A&M) would play 2 other Top 8 teams; the other 6 (AU, Bama, UF, Tex, UGA, and OK) would play 3. This maintains a lot of the old (and new) rivalry games: LSU-Bama, LSU-Miss, LSU-A&M Miss-Bama, Tenn-Bama, Tenn-UGA, UGA-AU, AU-Bama, UGA-UF, Tenn-UF, SC-UGA OK-Tex. It leaves out lessser teams rivalry games though: MSU-Miss and Tenn-Vandy, Tenn-UK. Also, Tenn would get hammered and Tex-A&M would not happen...I tried
Your matrix:
Texas / OU / Vandy / SC
A&M / LSU / Tenn / UK
Arky / Mizzou / UF / UGA
MSU / Miss / Bama / AU
My reshuffling:
Texas / MSU /Bama/ AU
Arky/ A&M / LSU / UK
OK / UF / Tenn / UGA
Mizz/ Vandy / Miss / SC
If Top 8 teams are: LSU, OK, Tex, GA, UF, Bama, Aubie, A&M, then of the Top 8, two teams (LSU and A&M) would play 2 other Top 8 teams; the other 6 (AU, Bama, UF, Tex, UGA, and OK) would play 3. This maintains a lot of the old (and new) rivalry games: LSU-Bama, LSU-Miss, LSU-A&M Miss-Bama, Tenn-Bama, Tenn-UGA, UGA-AU, AU-Bama, UGA-UF, Tenn-UF, SC-UGA OK-Tex. It leaves out lessser teams rivalry games though: MSU-Miss and Tenn-Vandy, Tenn-UK. Also, Tenn would get hammered and Tex-A&M would not happen...I tried
Posted on 7/23/21 at 7:20 pm to fr33manator
You said Pod. Boo this man!
Posted on 7/23/21 at 7:27 pm to fr33manator
...and you think having ou in a division with Kentucky, Vanderbilt, and Missouri is fair how? Ou would win that division every damn year and it wouldn't be close. No fricking way.
Posted on 7/23/21 at 7:32 pm to LSURulzSEC
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frick the pod system...2 8 team divisions...east and west...
2 - 8 team division is the ONLY way....you have to end up with 2 teams in the SEC Champ game....
Play 10 SEC games and 2 non-conference....it will be epic!
Posted on 7/23/21 at 7:59 pm to ImayGoLesMiles
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...and you think having ou in a division with Kentucky, Vanderbilt, and Missouri is fair how
Based on past history I don’t think we need to worry. Even a soft pod and soft East will expose them
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Ou would win that division every damn year and it wouldn't be close. No fricking way.
They make it through the season to the playoffs regularly now due to a soft schedule. And never look like they belong, and lose in the first round
This doesn’t change much, makes their path harder really
This post was edited on 7/23/21 at 8:01 pm
Posted on 7/23/21 at 8:03 pm to fr33manator
Yeah, I get what you're saying, but they can't give them a division basically all to themselves like that when the rest of the league's divisions are beating up on each other.
This post was edited on 7/23/21 at 8:05 pm
Posted on 7/23/21 at 8:20 pm to ImayGoLesMiles
pod A- Texas, Texas AnM, Missouri, Oklahoma
Pod B- LSU, Arkansas, Ole Miss, Miss. State
Pod C- Alabama, Auburn, Tennessee, Vanderbilt
Pod D- Florida, Georgia, SC, Kentucky
Pod B- LSU, Arkansas, Ole Miss, Miss. State
Pod C- Alabama, Auburn, Tennessee, Vanderbilt
Pod D- Florida, Georgia, SC, Kentucky
Posted on 7/23/21 at 9:18 pm to ImayGoLesMiles
I mean, you’re gonna have a weak division.
Do you put arky, mizzou, Kentucky and Vandy in one?
Part of that might be me not wanting a bubble team regionally that’s not connected to the others
Although, this map doesn’t look awful
I might warm up to not having to play Bama every year until the championship, although I love our yearly rivalry games
Do you put arky, mizzou, Kentucky and Vandy in one?
Part of that might be me not wanting a bubble team regionally that’s not connected to the others
Although, this map doesn’t look awful
I might warm up to not having to play Bama every year until the championship, although I love our yearly rivalry games
This post was edited on 7/23/21 at 9:20 pm
Posted on 7/23/21 at 10:51 pm to Indiana Tiger
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What I described fixes that: i.e. it takes 4 years to do a home and home. The two methods are the same, but the single division allows more permanent game flexibility.
If you do 2 divisions you HAVE to play everyone in your division. The only way the schedule actually works out to where it doesn't take 10+ years to do a home and home with every team in the other division is to have a 10 or 11 game conference schedule which no program would be willing to do.
Posted on 7/23/21 at 10:57 pm to tiger25
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If you do 2 divisions you HAVE to play everyone in your division.
For your convenience, below is the relevant portion of my original post. Focus on the first sentence.
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Keep us all in one division; let teams work out 3 permanent opponents; rotate home and home with the rest of the teams over 4 yrs (requires 9 game schedule).
Posted on 7/24/21 at 7:18 am to Indiana Tiger
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Indiana Tiger
I’ve posted in this thread the same preference you did re 3 perm, 6 rotate, eliminate divisions.
What do you think of the 6 perm 3 rotate scenario. I know it isn’t as good as getting to play H&H against everyone every 4 years. It would be playing everyone within 3 and H&H within 6.
I think 6 perm is a good compromise to preserve many traditional matchups without having to wait so long to play the others.
Posted on 7/24/21 at 7:39 am to Obi-Wan Tiger
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’ve posted in this thread the same preference you did re 3 perm, 6 rotate, eliminate divisions.
What do you think of the 6 perm 3 rotate scenario. I know it isn’t as good as getting to play H&H against everyone every 4 years. It would be playing everyone within 3 and H&H within 6.
I think 6 perm is a good compromise to preserve many traditional matchups without having to wait so long to play the others.
So no Divisions, top 2 teams based on Record go to Atlanta. Say if 3 teams are 8-1, head to head to you get it down to 2, if it is one of those team A beat Team B and Team B beat Team C and Team C beat A (sort of like what happened in the Big 12 about 10 years ago), then you can use winning % of the teams you beat, the 2 teams that defeated the strongest schedule go to Atlanta, etc.
Posted on 7/24/21 at 7:52 am to JKChesterton
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So no Divisions, top 2 teams based on Record go to Atlanta. Say if 3 teams are 8-1, head to head to you get it down to 2, if it is one of those team A beat Team B and Team B beat Team C and Team C beat A (sort of like what happened in the Big 12 about 10 years ago), then you can use winning % of the teams you beat, the 2 teams that defeated the strongest schedule go to Atlanta, etc.
Yep. And another advantage of this scenario is that you always get the top 2 teams, which is not a given with divisions.
Didn’t the Big XII thing get settled using BCS standings? That was the OU/UT/TTech controversy if I remember right.
Posted on 7/24/21 at 7:57 am to duboisd
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Georgia, Florida, South Carolina, Kentucky
Alabama, Auburn, Tennessee, Vandy
Its interesting how the closest SEC program to UF is never in the same pod but I figure the above makes more sense competitively.
Works out well for UF and UGA.
This post was edited on 7/24/21 at 7:59 am
Posted on 7/24/21 at 8:19 am to Obi-Wan Tiger
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Yep. And another advantage of this scenario is that you always get the top 2 teams, which is not a given with divisions.
Didn’t the Big XII thing get settled using BCS standings? That was the OU/UT/TTech controversy if I remember right.
Yep that was the scenario I was talking about, couldn't remember is exactly but I think Texas Tech upset Texas in Lubbock which caused the 3 way tie, Mike Crabtree made a crazy catch in the last seconds to win it for Texas Tech.
If 6 permanents and 3 rotating so that means in 6 years everybody is played. What about the PODS that the SEC put out and a 3-1 cross POD permanent and 5 rotating, that allows you to keep all the non-Negotiable SEC historic rival games and see everyone within 4 years.
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