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re: If all college football players had to pass a high school exit exam to play div 1 football
Posted on 5/23/24 at 6:05 am to bamabaseballsec
Posted on 5/23/24 at 6:05 am to bamabaseballsec
Pandora’s box is opened and nothing is closing it.
Posted on 5/23/24 at 6:05 am to TheWalrus
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I think they should totally disconnect athletics from academics. It’s basically a professional team with the school’s branding. Who cares if the players get degrees?
I understand why you’re saying this. I just think it’s terrible that this is where we have arrived.
This post was edited on 5/23/24 at 6:07 am
Posted on 5/23/24 at 6:08 am to RelentlessTide
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We are the only country which pairs academics and competitive athletics. And athletics is perhaps the only profitable part of a university. The goals are different for a university and its “semi-pro” athletes. The fans are stuck in the middle.
Its hard to imagine a university which can afford an athletic department that does not make more money doing research than the AD does. Even at athletic mills like SEC schools all but football, possibly basketball and baseball, "make" money...all of the other things cost money.
Collegiate athletics is uniquely American. It does not happen anywhere else in the world, not on anywhere near the scale it does in the US. It is also relatively new in the US in relationship to higher learning in the US. It is easy to imagine many universities simply ending it altogether. Not the Texas's and OSU's but Vandy and Duke????
Posted on 5/23/24 at 6:12 am to bamabaseballsec
High school exit exam would be fine by me. I've less issue with the NIL money than I do the free-agency, I mean transfer portal.
IDK how you reel effectively reel it in though. NIL caps, per athlete, per program? Stricter transfer rules? Contracts with penalties for breach?
Athletic contracts could bring some stability but also pushes collegiate athletics hard into the professional space. Maybe it's already been there for longer than a lot of us want to admit.
IDK how you reel effectively reel it in though. NIL caps, per athlete, per program? Stricter transfer rules? Contracts with penalties for breach?
Athletic contracts could bring some stability but also pushes collegiate athletics hard into the professional space. Maybe it's already been there for longer than a lot of us want to admit.
Posted on 5/23/24 at 6:20 am to ibldprplgld
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Maybe it's already been there for longer than a lot of us want to admit.
Crazy part is this could have been avoided a long time ago, but the powers that be didn’t want to hear it.
Posted on 5/23/24 at 6:35 am to DeafJam73
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Crazy part is this could have been avoided a long time ago, but the powers that be didn’t want to hear it.
How?
Posted on 5/23/24 at 6:47 am to TheWalrus
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I think they should totally disconnect athletics from academics. It’s basically a professional team with the school’s branding. Who cares if the players get degrees?
Then it's simply a professional league , so have regional club teams rather than pretend it's any way even associated with academics, which is what a college or university is supposed to be.
Posted on 5/23/24 at 7:02 am to AwgustaDawg
The Ivy League still enjoys athletic intercollegiate competition, but they don’t offer athletic scholarships.
Posted on 5/23/24 at 7:40 am to wdhalgren
quote:Too much $ & too many students would be lost for some schools to go this route.
Universities should have to sell their athletics programs, facilities and related intellectual property. Go back to the original purpose of tertiary education
Posted on 5/23/24 at 9:48 am to RelentlessTide
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How?
Players for a long time had been asking for reasonable increases in their scholarship benefits. NCAA told them no, and that escalated the situation to what we have now.
Posted on 5/23/24 at 10:39 am to RelentlessTide
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The Ivy League still enjoys athletic intercollegiate competition, but they don’t offer athletic scholarships.
I think in 30 years about 80% of the current BCS programs (or whatever the hell they are called in this day and age) will either eliminate all but club athletics OR mirror the Ivy League blue-print. I would bet a coca cola that even at places like Alabama and UGA they're are "intellectuals" getting louder and louder about the "image" and the "vision" of their respective institutions and universities in general. If you know anything about where colleges get money you know that those people hold a LOT of power because they are responsible for a LOT of revenue...collectively way more than even the most successful football programs, let alone the AD overall. The AD at UGA may not be honest about caring about academics but the faculty, at least some of them, are dead serious and they are the main source of revenue, not the AD, even at places like ATM and Texas and their gazillions of dollars. Research money is the real deal and it begets more research money....Athletics is loss leader to keep the general public aware that the university still exists.....
Posted on 5/23/24 at 11:03 am to TheWalrus
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I think they should totally disconnect athletics from academics. It’s basically a professional team with the school’s branding.
At least for football and basketball. I think the other sports are different.
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