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re: Final approval of NCAA Lawsuit delayed.
Posted on 4/25/25 at 4:25 pm to 3down10
Posted on 4/25/25 at 4:25 pm to 3down10
Look, I need more of your words like voluntary and indoctrinated to beat my fellow ranters as we try to get your word count up….
By the way, if something happens once a twice a year, that is not “all the time”. I would say you need to think before you post, but I need more crazy words out of you…..
To take on a few more of your false claims; that the NCAA/admins are not enriching themselves, they are just poor people working for the good of the kids and are always good and true…etc…. The salary of an athletic director at NCAA member institutions was $60k to $100k per year in 1990. The average salary of these same ADs in 2023 was $1.1 million. There has been no change to that basic job description, but their salary is more than TEN TIMES greater. No one else with the same job over that period of time got raises of this enormity. Do not even get me started on the coaches.
Some of the arguments made in the anti-trust case that you want to flippantly set aside because they do not meet your criteria of being a credible experts relate to the fact that the NCAA has a virtual stranglehold on access to the NFL where players make millions (I.e. not room and board and a scholarship). In the 2023 draft every single one of the 259 players drafted to the NFL came from NCAA member institutions. In the 2024 draft 255 of the 257 players drafted came from NCAA member institutions (1 from the CFL and 1 from a rugby organization ). These statistics make clear that if you want access to the NFL you must go through the NCAA football programs. As well, college coaches not only recognize this fact, they use it to recruit players to their teams. Saban regularly bragged to recruits that his program was the best at getting players,to the NFL. This shows that for all practical purposes the NCAA has a monopoly on getting players in the NFL. The NCAA then used this monopoly power to force players not to use their own name, image and likeness (NIL) to earn money while playing in the NCAA. If a player did this they were kicked out,of the NCAA and effectively blackballed from the NFL. This argument is only one of the ideas reviewed and accepted by the courts at all levels. There are others that show the NCAA being complicit in artificially denying players earnings while college players.
By the way, if something happens once a twice a year, that is not “all the time”. I would say you need to think before you post, but I need more crazy words out of you…..
To take on a few more of your false claims; that the NCAA/admins are not enriching themselves, they are just poor people working for the good of the kids and are always good and true…etc…. The salary of an athletic director at NCAA member institutions was $60k to $100k per year in 1990. The average salary of these same ADs in 2023 was $1.1 million. There has been no change to that basic job description, but their salary is more than TEN TIMES greater. No one else with the same job over that period of time got raises of this enormity. Do not even get me started on the coaches.
Some of the arguments made in the anti-trust case that you want to flippantly set aside because they do not meet your criteria of being a credible experts relate to the fact that the NCAA has a virtual stranglehold on access to the NFL where players make millions (I.e. not room and board and a scholarship). In the 2023 draft every single one of the 259 players drafted to the NFL came from NCAA member institutions. In the 2024 draft 255 of the 257 players drafted came from NCAA member institutions (1 from the CFL and 1 from a rugby organization ). These statistics make clear that if you want access to the NFL you must go through the NCAA football programs. As well, college coaches not only recognize this fact, they use it to recruit players to their teams. Saban regularly bragged to recruits that his program was the best at getting players,to the NFL. This shows that for all practical purposes the NCAA has a monopoly on getting players in the NFL. The NCAA then used this monopoly power to force players not to use their own name, image and likeness (NIL) to earn money while playing in the NCAA. If a player did this they were kicked out,of the NCAA and effectively blackballed from the NFL. This argument is only one of the ideas reviewed and accepted by the courts at all levels. There are others that show the NCAA being complicit in artificially denying players earnings while college players.
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Posted on 4/25/25 at 4:51 pm to FlyDownTheField83
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Look, I need more of your words like voluntary and indoctrinated to beat my fellow ranters as we try to get your word count up….
Ah yes, your 3rd grade level attempt to mock me.
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By the way, if something happens once a twice a year, that is not “all the time”. I would say you need to think before you post, but I need more crazy words out of you…..
Just admit you didn't know what the frick you were talking about instead of being a dishonest bitch.
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To take on a few more of your false claims; that the NCAA/admins are not enriching themselves, they are just poor people working for the good of the kids and are always good and true…etc
You're adding words to my mouth. It doesn't matter if the NCAA/admins are doing good or bad for anyone. I'm not a fan of the NCAA, I'm only defending their rights against lame arse social justice warriors.
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The salary of an athletic director at NCAA member institutions was $60k to $100k per year in 1990. The average salary of these same ADs in 2023 was $1.1 million. There has been no change to that basic job description, but their salary is more than TEN TIMES greater. No one else with the same job over that period of time got raises of this enormity. Do not even get me started on the coaches.
Does not matter, this is just a social justice argument. For all you know, they were underpaid in the 90s. Basically what you are saying is they are making too much money, so we need to take away their liberties like communists.
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Some of the arguments made in the anti-trust case that you want to flippantly set aside because they do not meet your criteria of being a credible experts relate to the fact that the NCAA has a virtual stranglehold on access to the NFL where players make millions (I.e. not room and board and a scholarship). In the 2023 draft every single one of the 259 players drafted to the NFL came from NCAA member institutions. In the 2024 draft 255 of the 257 players drafted came from NCAA member institutions (1 from the CFL and 1 from a rugby organization ). These statistics make clear that if you want access to the NFL you must go through the NCAA football programs. As well, college coaches not only recognize this fact, they use it to recruit players to their teams. Saban regularly bragged to recruits that his program was the best at getting players,to the NFL. This shows that for all practical purposes the NCAA has a monopoly on getting players in the NFL. The NCAA then used this monopoly power to force players not to use their own name, image and likeness (NIL) to earn money while playing in the NCAA. If a player did this they were kicked out,of the NCAA and effectively blackballed from the NFL. This argument is only one of the ideas reviewed and accepted by the courts at all levels. There are others that show the NCAA being complicit in artificially denying players earnings while college players.
A monopoly is not illegal by default. Anti-competitive behavior to create a monopoly is illegal.
This is not the fault of the NCAA. They do absolutely NOTHING to prevent competition. They are the best option because of everything they give, not because they have done anything to prevent competition.
So basically, your argument is the NCAA needs to be punished because they offer too much to the students for alternatives to form.
Well, good news - they are about to be getting a whole lot less now thanks to think unjust ruling that only benefits about 1% of the players.
I guess next you'll be wanting to sue the universities because places like Google require a college degree 99% of the time, and universities brag in their recruiting about how good their programs are an how it leads to more of their graduates getting those jobs than other schools.
And those people pay them, so it's even more unfair.
fricking commies who just want to avoid the label.
This post was edited on 4/25/25 at 5:20 pm
Posted on 4/25/25 at 5:35 pm to 3down10
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They are the best option because of everything they give, not because they have done anything to prevent competition
So if you really believe that, I think we are so far apart it makes no sense to exchange anymore : besides I have other things to do….
By the way, dishonest bitch, social justice warrior, fricking commie, are examples of name calling that the uneducated use when they see their arguments failing…
Posted on 4/25/25 at 7:15 pm to FlyDownTheField83
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So if you really believe that, I think we are so far apart it makes no sense to exchange anymore : besides I have other things to do….
Feel free to give some examples of how the NCAA has done anything to prevent competition. I'm open minded, but not a single person in this thread has done anything beyond make the accusation.
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By the way, dishonest bitch, social justice warrior, fricking commie, are examples of name calling that the uneducated use when they see their arguments failing…
False, what you are talking about is an ad hominem attack. It's where someone attacks the person rather than addressing what they've said.
I'm addressing every point you make for starters, and those words all have meanings of which you fit the description.
A dishonest bitch is someone who lies about something obvious rather than admit their error.
A social justice warrior is someone who thinks they need to mold society to fit their ideas and morals on what is "fair" rather than standing up for the liberty of individuals. They've existed though history and they are never the good guys.
Someone who thinks how much someone earns is their business and that it's cause for regulation is a communist.
If you don't want to be these things, then don't be.
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