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re: Davy Crockett decided it was better to die in Texas...than to live in Tennessee

Posted on 10/14/22 at 12:45 pm to
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
58703 posts
Posted on 10/14/22 at 12:45 pm to
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(E) Texas being a liberal school


Show me the post, I call BS


I am an IKE guy and abhor the far left and the far right with equal fervor

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(and confusing West Virginia with Baylor)


Guilty, had to go get my glasses then admitted my error. At my age, you need these to see better




As to the rest
A) It is a fact they moved the B12 to TX and Utx was most instrumental
B) It is a fact in CFB, OU > Utx
C) It is a fact, Utx has not won a SEC championship
(they got beat by Kentucky in Volleyball for the NCAA title, I was there)
D) It is a fact, Utx has treated Hogs a like red headed stepchild (was there when they hired Broyles)
F) Fact, Vols are the real UT, they were first. Unlike TAMU fans I do not, nor can ever remember using tu (as that is Tulane here), nor sips or tsips.
G) Fact, as an incoming member, Utx did not do Alabama right in austin. This was not the first time poor sportsmanship has been shown by Utx.

Also, the facts ...
I am old
I am old enough to remember actual events and historic SEC people
I do not intentionally troll as I am from a different generation
I do not boo at games for either side
I am old enough to remember good manners (why I love State fans)
I do not get sarcasm most of the time.
I still wear clean and pressed clothes to games (I am good at ironing)

HTH
Posted by PerrillouxToTexas
Member since Sep 2022
7116 posts
Posted on 10/14/22 at 1:28 pm to
Despite your anti-Texas bend, I must admit I do have somewhat of a soft spot for your ancient perspective on how the college landscape ended up like it did.
Posted by Gunga Din
Oklahoma
Member since Jul 2020
2443 posts
Posted on 10/14/22 at 1:38 pm to
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Texans lost at the Alamo, pal.


And I've never understood why.

Why didn't the Texans go out and attack Santa Anna and the Mexican army while they were taking their afternoon naps?...Like they did at San Jacinto.
Posted by Buster83
Member since Aug 2021
4624 posts
Posted on 10/14/22 at 2:01 pm to
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(A) Texas moved Big 12 HQ to Dallas




The Big 12 conference HQ has always been in the Dallas area since its formation. teasip didn't move it there.

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Seven cities were considered for the conference's headquarters including: Colorado Springs, Dallas, Denver, Kansas City (the former headquarters of the Big Eight), Lubbock, Texas, Oklahoma City, and Omaha, Nebraska before Dallas was chosen as headquarters in May 1995. Later (in 2006) the Big 12 relocated to nearby Irving. [24]
Posted by PerrillouxToTexas
Member since Sep 2022
7116 posts
Posted on 10/14/22 at 2:45 pm to
His view is that the Big 8 was strong armed by the Texas schools (with UT the ring-master, of course) when the Big 12 formed to move it from Kansas City (Big 8 HQ) to Dallas.

The four Texas schools plus Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, and Colorado outvoted the rest of the former Big 8 schools to "move" it to Dallas.
Posted by Lolathon234
Rio
Member since Oct 2022
1351 posts
Posted on 10/14/22 at 4:32 pm to
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The four Texas schools plus Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, and Colorado outvoted the rest of the former Big 8 schools to "move" it to Dallas.


Talk about a terrible decision for Colorado, program collapsed immediately after joining the B12
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
58703 posts
Posted on 10/14/22 at 5:00 pm to
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Talk about a terrible decision for Colorado


I think in the early days they were Border Conference (AZ, ASU, TT, et al) so Bio Big 8 was a move up. They probably fit the PAC schools better and should have made the move when the Pacific Coast got busted for cheating and was disbanded (only to be reformed a year or so later as the PAC. Oddly the 2 schools in the PCC who were not cheating did not get to join the PAC.

I always wondered what happens if the Big + SWC merger did not add Baylor and added Arkansas instead.
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
58703 posts
Posted on 10/14/22 at 5:03 pm to
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His view is that the Big 8 was strong armed by the Texas schools (with UT the ring-master, of course) when the Big 12 formed to move it from Kansas City (Big 8 HQ) to Dallas.


The issue I keep pointing out that the law of unintended consequences moved the NCAA out of Kansas City (Big 8) and to Indianapolis (B1G). You never want to lose a base. Imagine the SEC not in AtL and getting the benefit of that airport.
Posted by Trumansfangs
Town & Country
Member since Sep 2018
7654 posts
Posted on 10/14/22 at 5:11 pm to
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Do not ever invoke the name of the Cherokee with this travesty or a curse will be laid that will ensure you never see another title for 1000 years

You actually can fool all the people all the time......Goldman Sachs



Posted by WestRockyTop
West Tennessee
Member since Dec 2019
7595 posts
Posted on 10/14/22 at 5:50 pm to
Well....I bet when 3500+ Mexicans were storming the wooden fence he was defending at the Alamo, he whished he would kept his arse in Tennessee.

Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
58703 posts
Posted on 10/14/22 at 5:58 pm to
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Despite your anti-Texas bend


I am not as anti Utx as you think. I am a grunt and I will always be a grunt. I grew up around athletes who did not boast but played with passion. If Utx said they were a Top 25 team I am cool but they want to insist they are Top 5. I just dislike the puffery and boasted that is unearned. I feel the same way about modern Michigan if it makes you feel better.



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ancient perspective


Ancient to you. As you age, and you will, you find more often than not history repeats itself.

Posted by HogsOfWar
Member since Jan 2015
1152 posts
Posted on 10/14/22 at 6:34 pm to
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
86371 posts
Posted on 10/14/22 at 7:55 pm to
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Ban this mutha Fcka


Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
58703 posts
Posted on 10/14/22 at 10:25 pm to
Tear the roof off the sucker!

Give up the Funk!
Posted by AggieArchitect04
Texas
Member since Sep 2011
2198 posts
Posted on 10/14/22 at 10:59 pm to
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And I've never understood why. Why didn't the Texans go out and attack Santa Anna and the Mexican army while they were taking their afternoon naps?...Like they did at San Jacinto.

They were heavily outnumbered. I think it was like 4 or 5 Mexicans for every Texan. About 1,500 Mexicans stood ready outside the garrison for days while less than 300 Texans were waiting behind the walls of the Alamo.

Travis didn’t want to go there to begin with. He objected to the orders. Bowie was sent there to remove the artillery but there were no oxen. So he stayed. General Houston’s army was really disorganized and not well-trained at that point and he did not consider the Alamo worth defending from a strategic point of view. His orders were to remove the cannons and destroy the mission. The Alamo was not equipped to defend against a military offensive.

Basically some people ignored orders, other people were disorganized, and the militia and regulars that were left there were sitting ducks.

Travis sent letters pleading for more men and supplies but they were only marginally reinforced.

It was an absolute massacre. Crown them heroes I guess but those poor people didn’t stand a chance in hell.

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Fellow citizens and compatriots;
I am besieged, by a thousand or more of the Mexicans under Santa Anna. I have sustained a continual Bombardment and cannonade for 24 hours and have not lost a man. The enemy has demanded a surrender at discretion, otherwise, the garrison are to be put to the sword, if the fort is taken. I have answered the demand with a cannon shot, and our flag still waves proudly from the walls. I shall never surrender or retreat. Then, I call on you in the name of Liberty, of patriotism and everything dear to the American character, to come to our aid, with all dispatch. The enemy is receiving reinforcements daily and will no doubt increase to three or four thousand in four or five days. If this call is neglected, I am determined to sustain myself as long as possible and die like a soldier who never forgets what is due to his own honor and that of his country. VICTORY or DEATH.
William Barret Travis
Lt. Col. Comdt.
P.S. The Lord is on our side. When the enemy appeared in sight we had not three bushels of corn. We have since found in deserted houses 80 or 90 bushels and got into the walls 20 or 30 head of Beeves.
This post was edited on 10/14/22 at 11:33 pm
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
45898 posts
Posted on 10/15/22 at 12:16 am to
I am also significantly part Cherokee, Kemosabe, and I know all about the Georgia gold rush, “There is gold in them there hills” and it’s consequences on the Nation. As a direct result, multiple Cherokee women were married into my family to keep them off the trail of tears. I am also aware of the political splits in Tennessee at the time, my ancestors lived there as first settlers, a stated previously. We were also with David Crockett, a bunch of Cherokee neighbors and the Franklin Militia and Jackson in the creek Indian war that resulted in the massacre at Fort Mims, Alabama. We were also at the battle of New Orleans. As I said before the Crocketts were friends and neighbors, and there were relatives that were born way before his legend called David Crockett (my last name ) I think we are also involved in one of your most family feuds and of course fought on the side of the McCoys against the Hatfields.

Everything I said is still true, your mascot would cuss and spit on the ground every time Tennessee was mentioned in the months before his death.


That changes nothing I said about David Crockett, who hated being called Davy btw. Your mascot is best known for dying in a battle of Texas Independence, and telling you to go to Hell.

Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
45898 posts
Posted on 10/15/22 at 12:17 am to
David Crockett died a Texas an wanted nothing to do with Tenner.
Posted by Sgt_Nick_Fury
Chattanooga
Member since Sep 2012
229 posts
Posted on 10/15/22 at 12:18 am to
Sgt York > Sam Houston > Davy Crocket

If not for TN Volunteers there'd be no Texas....
Posted by TutHillTiger
Mississippi Alabama
Member since Sep 2010
45898 posts
Posted on 10/15/22 at 12:19 am to
All people looking for a better life and getting the frick away from Tennessee
Posted by Sgt_Nick_Fury
Chattanooga
Member since Sep 2012
229 posts
Posted on 10/15/22 at 12:29 am to
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All people looking for a better life and getting the frick away from Tennessee


So Why is every southern state still filled with transplant Katrina people from Louisiana who decided to never go back? But thanks for all the restaurants and all the food is delicious. Seriously though....Even the Florida hurricane refugees go home after awhile....everyone from LA is like NOPE...I'm staying in (insert new state) here.
This post was edited on 10/15/22 at 12:32 am
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