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How Should We Handle Hamas

Posted on 10/8/23 at 1:11 pm
Posted by pioneerbasketball
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Posted on 10/8/23 at 1:11 pm
Israel at war with Hamas after unprecedented attacks
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
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Posted on 10/8/23 at 3:29 pm to
I support the peaceful Palestinian Christians, the peaceful Palestinian Muslims, and the peaceful Orthodox Jewish folks who cannot stand their own warmonger Israeli govt
Posted by Rambler
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Posted on 10/8/23 at 3:40 pm to
I'm trying to figure out Hamas's overall goal here. Are they trying to accomplish something other than just killing people? Taking prisoners in hopes of a swap? Are they just doing what they are being told to do by other actors? How does the Hamas leadership see themselves or the Palestinian people benefiting from these attacks?

Or, am I trying to apply logical standards to illogical people?
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
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Posted on 10/8/23 at 4:24 pm to
Israel bombs the shite out of people all the time and the media never reports it.


That's the elephant in the room you didn't know about.
Posted by five_fivesix
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Posted on 10/8/23 at 6:19 pm to
Israel will break a lot of Iran’s toys. We ain’t gotta do shite except fly some recon and control missions. This movie has been made about a dozen times since ‘48.

It’s all good.
Posted by Animal
Member since Dec 2017
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Posted on 10/9/23 at 7:02 am to
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I support the peaceful Palestinian Christians, the peaceful Palestinian Muslims, and the peaceful Orthodox Jewish folks who cannot stand their own warmonger Israeli govt


Just come out and say you're a fig.
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
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Posted on 10/9/23 at 10:24 am to
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Just come out and say you're a fig.





sounds like you're wishing I was


that fact that you're obviously an evil piece of shite has no bearing on my life


i'll pray for you
Posted by LittleJerrySeinfield
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Posted on 10/9/23 at 11:16 am to
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Israel will break a lot of Iran’s toys


Yeah, it's no surprise this happens right after our gov't unfreezes Iran's funds.
Posted by GurleyGirl
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Member since Nov 2015
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Posted on 10/9/23 at 12:41 pm to
A mostly irrelevant and fanatical faction of society is desperate seeks relevance through violence.
They are rabid dogs that need to be put down.
Posted by paperwasp
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Posted on 10/9/23 at 1:33 pm to
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I'm trying to figure out Hamas's overall goal here

Since it's inception, Hamas' long-term goal is to end the Jewish state and replace it with an Islamic one — i.e., the liberation (or return) of Palestine.

As for "why" in this instance, there is a seven-day Jewish pilgrimage holiday called Sukkot, which just ended on October 6/7. Festivities involved large-scale events on the compound of the Al Aqsa Mosque in Jerusalem, which is also the third holiest site for Muslims.

During this most recent holiday the Jews were praying in this mosque, which is typically not permitted and is considered to be a highly, highly provocative act.

Although the incursion as a whole has obviously been planned for some time (it coincides with the 50th anniversary of the Yom Kippur war), the timing appears in part to be retaliation for that provocation, with Hamas saying that they're acting to "protect" Jerusalem.

Posted by Lutcher Lad
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Posted on 10/9/23 at 3:29 pm to
Wipe 'em out...send 'em all to Allah with their 40 mules! Wait, that wasn't them.
Posted by Clark14
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Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 10/9/23 at 7:48 pm to
They’re at it again, eh?……same as it ever was….
Posted by Miznoz
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Posted on 10/9/23 at 9:07 pm to
I....

actually agree with Harry on this one.

If Israel wants peace they should stop the apartheid, colonization and occupation of the Palestinian people.
Posted by Arksulli
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Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 10/10/23 at 8:09 am to
Israel has been hit harder, though not quite so gruesomely, in the past.

It came as a shock to many in the world, but if you've been following Israeli politics there was kind of a sense that something like this could happen.

Netanyahu has been doing everything he can to stay in power, particularly since there is a really good chance he's heading to the slammer once he gets out of office as there appears to be quite a bit of evidence he's been up to shenanigans of a criminal nature.

Part of that was shuffling around important people in Mossad and the Israeli army. I know of quite a few Israeli pundits who have been saying for several months that Israel hadn't been so vulnerable since the Yom Kippur war. Given the reports coming out that Egypt suspected something was wrong and attempted to warn Netanyahu and were blown off...

What will we do about Hamas? We'll probably give the Israeli's some ammunition and stay out their way while trying to keep the conflict from spreading. Which has been our Modus Operandi in the Middle East for a long time.

A lot, and I do mean a lot, of Palestinians are going to die and probably quite few more Israelis. Oddly enough, while the massive failure of his government allowed this to happen in the short run it will probably strengthen Netanyahu's grip on power.
Posted by Harry Rex Vonner
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Posted on 10/10/23 at 8:49 am to
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What will we do about Hamas? We'll probably give the Israeli's some ammunition and stay out their way while trying to keep the conflict from spreading. Which has been our Modus Operandi in the Middle East for a long time.



Love you brother but this ain't it.

The end game are pipelines and Iranian oil reserves from the Saudi universe to Turkey. Period.

So the powers that be have already begun blaming Iran for this, the same as they trumped up BS on Assad in Syria. Whatever radicals there are related to Iran, we created them beginning in 1953, and never stopped poking them.

Pipeline/pipelines through Syria and the western border of Iran, from Saudi to Turkey. Plus Iran's oil. That's the game here. Plus Israel wants to keep slaughtering Palestinians as they've been doing for years. They want to throw tons of gas on that fire.

America/Great Britain/Saudi/Israel loves war and war money, and they create enemies to keep the money train rolling.

Ron Paul already said around a decade ago that Hamas was a creation of the powers that be. Just like ISIS was later.

Just like Saddam, bin Laden, Noriega, Chavez, et al

Hell, the Nazis we ended up protecting after WWII

It's not fun to tell people the truth. I'm not popular at work this morning because of this, letting the sheep that I work with know they really really don't know what they're talking about.



We've been running black ops in the Middle East for more than 70 years.
This post was edited on 10/10/23 at 9:06 am
Posted by Herman Frisco
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Member since Sep 2008
17611 posts
Posted on 10/10/23 at 1:14 pm to
Everyone watch the videos Hamas is playing on the web.
This is what Israel is living and dying with everyday.
Hamas has gone too far this time. There is nowhere on earth that they can hide. There is revenge and there is Isralie revenge.
Grab a cup of coffee, sit back and watch.
Posted by CouldCareLess
Member since Feb 2019
2905 posts
Posted on 10/10/23 at 2:01 pm to
Israel can handle this. They dont play by the same rules that most do - they dont ask questions or play silly games. They have one thing in mind - they are gonna make you pay with your life. End of story.
Posted by paperwasp
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Member since Sep 2014
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Posted on 10/10/23 at 2:03 pm to
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watch the videos Hamas is playing on the web

Politics aside, that one with the girl in the back of the truck was heartbreaking.

I can't imagine what her parents are going through.
Posted by pioneerbasketball
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Posted on 10/10/23 at 4:18 pm to
Can someone give me the cliffnotes about the video. I dont think I can watch it.
Posted by paperwasp
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Member since Sep 2014
25054 posts
Posted on 10/10/23 at 5:49 pm to
In the bed of a pickup truck, there are terrorists with guns, sitting around a girl. She's lying face down, motionless.

She's been stripped down to her underwear.

Her limbs are bent at unnatural angles. One of her legs has a distinctive tattoo, which her family recognized.

The men in the truck gesture towards her, hit her body, and yell at the camera. People in the street are yelling and spitting on her.

Don't watch it.
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