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Congratulations to the 1964 National Champions
Posted on 9/22/21 at 5:05 pm
Posted on 9/22/21 at 5:05 pm
Final AP Poll
1. Alabama
Final Coaches Poll
1. Alabama
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Posted on 9/22/21 at 5:29 pm to Farmer1906
#12 Namath
Posted on 9/22/21 at 5:30 pm to Farmer1906
Thank you sir.
Posted on 9/22/21 at 5:32 pm to Farmer1906
The funny part is that aggots would kill for even a split natty.
Posted on 9/22/21 at 5:32 pm to cajunbama
Lol nobody give a flying frick. Hitler was still considered a good guy when you guys last won your title.
Also, Alabama lost in 64, Arkansas didn't.
Also, Alabama lost in 64, Arkansas didn't.
Posted on 9/22/21 at 5:44 pm to Farmer1906
Here are your CONSENSUS national champions for 1964, ladies and gentlemen!...........
Final Football Writers Assoc. of America
1. ARKANSAS
Final Billingsley Report
1. ARKANSAS
Final College Football Researchers Association
1. ARKANSAS
Final Helms Athletic Foundation
1. ARKANSAS
Final National Championship Foundation
1. ARKANSAS
Final Poling System
1. ARKANSAS
Final Sagarin Ratings
1. ARKANSAS
ALABAMA...10-1
ARKANSAS..11-0
HELLO!!
ALL recognized by the NCAA and are listed in the Official NCAA Records Book
Final Football Writers Assoc. of America
1. ARKANSAS
Final Billingsley Report
1. ARKANSAS
Final College Football Researchers Association
1. ARKANSAS
Final Helms Athletic Foundation
1. ARKANSAS
Final National Championship Foundation
1. ARKANSAS
Final Poling System
1. ARKANSAS
Final Sagarin Ratings
1. ARKANSAS
ALABAMA...10-1
ARKANSAS..11-0
HELLO!!
ALL recognized by the NCAA and are listed in the Official NCAA Records Book
This post was edited on 9/22/21 at 5:49 pm
Posted on 9/22/21 at 5:47 pm to Farmer1906
Nothing is more SEC than to complain about rules that benefited Alabama, get them changed, and then watch Alabama win with THOSE rules.
Man, Arkansas was basically in the SEC even way back then.
Man, Arkansas was basically in the SEC even way back then.
Posted on 9/22/21 at 5:48 pm to JetDawg
Which one is Jimmy and which one is Jerry? Were they friends back then?
Posted on 9/22/21 at 5:51 pm to skrayper
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Nothing is more SEC than to complain about rules that benefited Alabama, get them changed, and then watch Alabama win with THOSE rules.
Nothing is more SEC than to see Alabama constantly trying to STEAL national titles they have no business recognizing as their own.
Posted on 9/22/21 at 5:53 pm to JetDawg
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Nothing is more SEC than to see Alabama constantly trying to STEAL national titles they have no business recognizing as their own.
Sounds like your beef is with the AP and UPI polls, not Alabama.
It's okay, I understand you're confused. It'll be alright.
Posted on 9/22/21 at 5:54 pm to JetDawg
Imagine if Alabama claimed 1964 based on those polls while Arkansas had won the Coaches' and AP polls. The outcry would be tremendous. 
Posted on 9/22/21 at 5:54 pm to Farmer1906
Trophies are in The Bryant Museum.
Posted on 9/22/21 at 5:57 pm to Farmer1906
Could you not have a single digit jersey back then?
Posted on 9/22/21 at 6:06 pm to Farmer1906
Thank you! That team was awesome and national champs!
Posted on 9/22/21 at 6:07 pm to JetDawg
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CONSENSUS
Not at all.
Posted on 9/22/21 at 6:09 pm to skrayper
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Nothing is more SEC than to complain about rules that benefited Alabama, get them changed, and then watch Alabama win with THOSE rules.
Man, Arkansas was basically in the SEC even way back then.
The reason Bama keeps winning despite rule changes is because you never follow them in the first place. It doesn't matter what's on the books.
Posted on 9/22/21 at 6:10 pm to Farmer1906
Coach Ray Perkins, #88
Posted on 9/22/21 at 6:12 pm to Prof
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The reason Bama keeps winning despite rule changes is because you never follow them in the first place.
I can't argue with you since, according to what some posters in this thread apparently believe, Alabama voted themselves national champs in both the AP and UPI polls in '64. That can't be legal.
Posted on 9/22/21 at 6:15 pm to skrayper
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Sounds like your beef is with the AP and UPI polls, not Alabama.
It's okay, I understand you're confused. It'll be alright.
I have no beef with the UPI/AP polls...what Alabama fails to recognize is the fact that during this period (I know, I lived and covered sports during this time), the two service wire polls were not the only major polls and were not the only polls recognized by the NCAA.
Regardless of how the news wire polls were determined, the other polls were also highly recognized and whichever team won the CONSENSUS of all the polls was generally looked upon as the one who more rightly could claim the title. The NCAA allows any school that has been voted #1 in any final poll to claim the national title.
Hence, Alabama has the right to claim 1964. My beef is that Alabama people don't like to "share" the title and try to claim them as their own. Most national titles are SHARED. Also, Alabama claims some national titles that most schools wouldn't touch w/a 100-ft pole if they were in the same position (exception is Tennessee for 1967 -0- sheesh!).
Example: 1941 (finished 9-2), 1973 (lost to Notre Dame in bowl game, ND consensus champ), 1978 (lost to USC)
The service wire polls gained stature as the years went by to the point that, today, the AP and UPI (coaches) are largely the only ones that people look to (along with the FWAA). Today, they're only used to help the CFP committee decide who they want to invite. In essence, they've run their course and no longer serve their purpose as they once did.
This post was edited on 9/22/21 at 6:23 pm
Posted on 9/22/21 at 6:15 pm to Farmer1906
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