When, and based off of what? Mike Norvell inherited a Memphis team that went 10-3 and 9-3 in the preceding two seasons to him taking over (under Justin Fuente). He posted two "great" seasons and two okay seasons during his tenure there. Overall good, but again, he didn't inherit slop. He also went 0-3 in Bowl games at Memphis.

His coaching tree is literally just Todd Graham. He followed him from Tulsa, to Pittsburgh, and then to Arizona State. He hasn't worked or learned under anyone else. Todd Graham is a fairly decent NCAA HC by most standards, but I'd hardly consider working under him to be noteworthy or anything.

At Florida State he got a mulligan last season even though they were horrendous, but this year they brought in like 10+ transfers - pretty much all from P5 programs and big-name guys - and they're 0-2 and coming off a loss to a Jacksonville State team that got slapped 31-0 by UAB the week prior. There is literally no excuse, and in fact, they 100% lost on a direct botched call by him.

So we're banking on him being for real based off of a 10-3 and 12-1 season at Memphis? That's it? His record at FSU is horrendous so far. The whole "rebuilding" thing goes out the window with the Transfer Portal where you can basically revamp your roster overnight - and that is exactly what Norvell did. They were among the biggest "winners" of the Portal (on paper) and yet they just lost to Jacksonville State. That is bad, really bad.