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re: Coach got the Rona

Posted on 8/24/21 at 6:36 am to
Posted by Rhino5
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2014
29428 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 6:36 am to
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3) less chance of transmission to others.

Israel would like a word with you. Take the shot if you want it, but the shot isn’t lessening transmission unfortunately.


Israel has one of the world's highest daily COVID-19 infection rates, despite high vaccine uptake
Posted by allin2010
Auburn
Member since Aug 2011
18223 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 6:36 am to
From 247. This makes me feel differently as only unvaccinated players tested and those with symptoms.

If a team has less than 85 percent of its roster vaccinated, those unvaccinated players are subject to testing at least once a week throughout the year and more often than that during their seasons. If you are vaccinated then you don’t have to test unless you have symptoms. That’s true if your team is at the 85 percent rate or below. What the 85 percent number does is lessen the number of tests for athletes in the program who aren’t vaccinated.

This is a significant change in what I was led to believe about the testing procedures. I was of the understanding that a team needs to be at an 85 percent rate to avoid testing, even for those who had been vaccinated. At the moment that’s not the case. With Auburn’s football program continuing to add to its vaccination numbers, according to Athletic Director Allen Greene, that is good news and means the Tigers should be in solid shape when the season gets started on September 4th provided they avoid a larger outbreak within the team.
Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
17884 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 7:34 am to
I just wish the players who want the vaxx would have done it in the summer. The 2nd shot is fricking rough and it will put you on your arse for at least 24 hours. Players don't need to be dealing with that during fall camp and leading up to the season.
Posted by 88TIger
Member since Nov 2012
2317 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 7:35 am to
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Everyone's got their anecdotal evidence but I know more people who got sick from the vaccine than from COVID.
Agree...I know more people who have died after getting the shot than the ones who had COVID.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
40581 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 7:44 am to
wtf?
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
28632 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 7:48 am to
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Take the shot if you want it, but the shot isn’t lessening transmission unfortunately.



it may not be lessening transmission, but the vaccinated aren't putting a strain on hospitals.....


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An Associated Press analysis of available government data from May shows that “breakthrough” infections in fully vaccinated people accounted for fewer than 1,200 of more than 107,000 COVID-19 hospitalizations. That’s about 1.1%.



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And only about 150 of the more than 18,000 COVID-19 deaths in May were in fully vaccinated people. That translates to about 0.8%, or five deaths per day on average.



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A new study found that more than 99% of patients hospitalized with COVID-19 during the first four months of 2021 weren’t fully vaccinated.

The Cleveland Clinic, which released the data on Tuesday, also found that the mRNA vaccines created by Pfizer and Moderna were more than 96% effective in protecting against COVID-19 infection.



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Among the 4,300 COVID-19 patients admitted to Cleveland Clinic hospitals between Jan. 1 and April 13, 99.75% were not fully vaccinated.



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.......and that is the point health care experts have been saying for months and months.
This post was edited on 8/24/21 at 7:49 am
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
42213 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 8:10 am to
Checks thread to see if coach is dead and I can claim the widow.

Posted by ChexMix
Taste the Deliciousness
Member since Apr 2014
25494 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 8:14 am to
Makes me wonder if these hospitals are sending the vaccinated home to quarantine and keeping the unvaccinated in the hospitals
Posted by Rhino5
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2014
29428 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 8:34 am to
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it may not be lessening transmission, but the vaccinated aren't putting a strain on hospitals.....


Wasn’t debating the hospital issue. He made a false claim that the shot lessened transmission, which isn’t proven true right now based on Iceland Australia, and Israel.
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
28632 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 8:40 am to
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Makes me wonder if these hospitals are sending the vaccinated home to quarantine and keeping the unvaccinated in the hospitals


I just think the vaccine is having it's intended effect. Health experts never said a fully vaccinated person would not get covid. They said it would hamper the severity of the symptoms. That seems to be coming to fruition.
Posted by BadData
North Carolina
Member since Nov 2016
31 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 8:44 am to
Coach Mason says he just recovered from a breakthrough case of COVID.

LINK

A very nice and professional statement from the coach.
Posted by jangalang
Member since Dec 2014
40581 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 8:47 am to

I’m glad he is okay. Here was the message.

Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
31641 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 8:51 am to
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He made a false claim that the shot lessened transmission, which isn’t proven true right now based on Iceland Australia, and Israel.


Don't forget America.
Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
31641 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 8:52 am to
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I just think the vaccine is having it's intended effect


No way you typed that with a straight face.
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
28632 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 9:13 am to
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No way you typed that with a straight face.


look at the numbers.

You can be ignorant if you want, but the numbers are saying the vaccine is working. This isn't some commie plot. It's not some media driven thing.
Posted by RandySavage
Member since May 2012
31641 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 9:18 am to
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look at the numbers


That's exactly what I'm doing.

The vaccine is supposed to prevent illness and transmission. Of course it's not going to be 100% effective, but it is not effective at all in those regards.

It certainly seems to be lessening the severity based on the numbers, which is obviously notable and a good thing, but that is absolutely not all it was marketed/intended to do.
Posted by MrAUTigers
Florida
Member since Sep 2013
28632 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 9:24 am to
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The vaccine is supposed to prevent illness and transmission.


It's supposed to lessen the severity of the symptoms........thus keeping people with covid from taking up hospital beds. That is the problem with this virus and people like you can't grasp that. It's the burden this virus is putting on the health care system.



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During studies, the three authorized vaccines have shown to be effective at preventing severe illness from COVID-19. So even if you were vaccinated and become infected, you are very unlikely to become severely ill.



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and that is exactly what the numbers I posted are saying. The vaccine is having the desired effect.


This post was edited on 8/24/21 at 9:30 am
Posted by CharlieTiger
ATL
Member since Jun 2014
839 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 9:36 am to
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Israel would like a word with you. Take the shot if you want it, but the shot isn’t lessening transmission unfortunately.


Israel has one of the world's highest daily COVID-19 infection rates, despite high vaccine uptake


Good article on this. High level is that this is in part due to the fact that Israel had a successful vaccine rollout, but it was in Jan/Feb timeframe, ~6-7 months ago, and that the vaccine effectiveness has started waning, therefore, more people there are getting the delta variant.

LINK
Posted by TemperdTiger
Montgomery, AL
Member since Oct 2013
1961 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 9:45 am to
Dayn is thirst trap central
Posted by CharlieTiger
ATL
Member since Jun 2014
839 posts
Posted on 8/24/21 at 9:49 am to
This is an interesting opinion piece with a bit of a different take on how we're looking at the virus, in terms of vaccinated vs unvaccinated. This guy is a pretty well renowned Dr at Johns Hopkins and says we should be looking at immune vs non-immune. He says people should still get vaccinated, but the immune response of those that have had it, should be enough protection for some period of time as well and those people may not necessarily need a vaccine until that immune response starts to wane. There's more to it, but that's the big takeway for me.

LINK
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