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re: Auburn dead last in SEC recruiting
Posted on 8/11/21 at 3:15 pm to 3down10
Posted on 8/11/21 at 3:15 pm to 3down10
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You guys are just making excuses for him while trying to cope with the reality.
For Gus or Harsin? What excuses?
Or do you really believe that there weren't mitigating circumstances that just might have made things more difficult this year?
The reality is that he's picking up new recruits almost weekly and has already dropped the ranking 20-30 points depending on where you look, AFTER taking the shite class Gus left and bringing it up over 50 spots in less than 2 months.
This class will be fine. Beyond that is just speculation.
This post was edited on 8/11/21 at 3:17 pm
Posted on 8/11/21 at 3:17 pm to BamasBack
Dead last in recruiting but front and center of the gumps' minds apparently
Posted on 8/11/21 at 3:19 pm to Leto II
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For Gus or Harsin? What excuses?
Or do you really believe that there weren't mitigating circumstances that just might have mad things more difficult this year?
The reality is that he's picking up new recruits almost weekly and has already dropped the ranking 20-30 points depending on where you look, AFTER taking the shite class Gus left and bringing it up over 50 spots in less than 2 months.
This class will be fine. Beyond that is just speculation.
The circumstances are you paid big money to fire a coach, only to hire a coach who is worse.
You are blaming Gus for this class?
Posted on 8/11/21 at 3:23 pm to tgrmeat
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Dead last in recruiting but front and center of the gumps' minds apparently
Gotta talk shite to Auburn fans while they are still here.
Posted on 8/11/21 at 3:23 pm to 3down10
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only to hire a coach who is worse.
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You are blaming Gus for this class?
Nope. Where did you glean that from?
Posted on 8/11/21 at 3:24 pm to 3down10
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while they are still here.
Where the frick do you think we are going? We are here through the highs and lows. We don't disappear like the tshirt Bama fans
Posted on 8/11/21 at 3:25 pm to CharlieTiger
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The circumstances around this year for recruiting were unheard of. So much of it is about building relationships and that is very hard to do over zoom calls. Regardless if he was coming from Idaho and being a relative unknown in the south, we weren't able to get kids on campus until just recently. That is a huge challenge to overcome, especially for a new coach to the region.
You can't find another comparison with those circumstances that were out of his control. Yes, guys like Beamer had the same circumstances, but he's been in the south basically his entire coaching career and already has a web of relationships built. Harsin came in without that and wasn't able to actually meet kids in person until about a month or so ago.
Tell me you made a bad hire without telling me you made a bad hire.
Posted on 8/11/21 at 3:26 pm to BamasBack
It feels like Auburn is close to last every season anyway? I mean it is Auburn. A 1-Time national champ
Posted on 8/11/21 at 3:26 pm to 3down10
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Tell me you made a bad hire without telling me you made a bad hire.
Covid-19 = Bad hire
Gotcha. Go play in some traffic. If you want to have a real conversation, I will be here.
Posted on 8/11/21 at 3:27 pm to saban n bear
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The circumstances around this year for recruiting were unheard of. So much of it is about building relationships and that is very hard to do over zoom calls. Regardless if he was coming from Idaho and being a relative unknown in the south, we weren't able to get kids on campus until just recently. That is a huge challenge to overcome, especially for a new coach to the region. You can't find another comparison with those circumstances that were out of his control. Yes, guys like Beamer had the same circumstances, but he's been in the south basically his entire coaching career and already has a web of relationships built. Harsin came in without that and wasn't able to actually meet kids in person until about a month or so ago.
I’ll take excuses for a $1,000, Alex.
Posted on 8/11/21 at 3:27 pm to saban n bear
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It feels like Auburn is close to last every season anyway?
Ok retard
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A 1-Time national champ
Wrong again, moron.
Posted on 8/11/21 at 3:29 pm to saban n bear
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Not wrong on either.
Yeah you are. idiot.
And your parents were wrong for not flushing you down a toilet, or whatever they had in that trailer.
This post was edited on 8/11/21 at 3:35 pm
Posted on 8/11/21 at 3:33 pm to RD Dawg
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??
They finished 7th nationally in '20 and consistently averages around 10th under Mahlzan.Not Bama like but certainly not bad at all and good enough to compete nationally.
Everyone has these problems at times but Malzahn missed a bunch on the OL/DL the last few years from what I've gathered from level-headed Auburn fans I know.
Speaking from my partisanship, Alabama consistently signs a top 5 class and often the top class but they really took it on the chin on the DL after losing Bo Davis. The last few years of relative mediocrity on the defense for Alabama are perhaps the realization of several classes where they missed guys or lost them to transfer due to them being flops.
It can happen to anyone, even the best, to varying degrees but Auburn PTBs didn't think their dry spell and bad luck was going to resolve itself. Cynically, you may argue that the Auburn PTBs put their thumbs on the scale to assure that Malzahn's recruiting would tank because they hated that deal their former university president signed Malzahn to in 2017. Who knows about that one...
This post was edited on 8/11/21 at 3:34 pm
Posted on 8/11/21 at 3:34 pm to RD Dawg
quote:Gus & Co recruited well on paper, but they had a talent retention problem.
He finished 7th nationally in 2020.
Are saying he ran the "recruiting program" into the ground in one year?
When you're getting paid top 5 salary, turning in top 10 ranked classes, but you can't field a team ranked in the top 10 at the end of the year, that won't cut it for long.
Posted on 8/11/21 at 3:36 pm to Leto II
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Covid-19 = Bad hire
Gotcha. Go play in some traffic. If you want to have a real conversation, I will be here.
I did have a real conversation.
All I got in return were excuses about how Gus lost the talent he got anyway etc.
At the same time, you guys pretty much laid out why he was a bad hire in those excuses.
Posted on 8/11/21 at 3:38 pm to 3down10
quote:Most of us stayed during 2012. What are you talking about?
Gotta talk shite to Auburn fans while they are still here.
Posted on 8/11/21 at 3:41 pm to 3down10
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All I got in return were excuses about how Gus lost the talent he got anyway etc.
Well, that's just fact. Do with it what you will.
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At the same time, you guys pretty much laid out why he was a bad hire in those excuses
What does the hire have to do with not being able to have kids on-campus? Nobody could have kids on-campus.
Recruiting is only one part of the job you know? It's hard to say Gus even did that well.
But you are willing to write Harsin altogether because you are judging one recruiting class, 8 months after he was hired during a Covid year? And ignoring the fact that the recruiting has picked up considerably the last few weeks and should continue to do so.
This post was edited on 8/11/21 at 3:43 pm
Posted on 8/11/21 at 3:42 pm to Diego Ricardo
Oh and I think the NCAA rules for COVID w/r/t recruiting really hurt Auburn. Auburn's whole marketing spiel is essentially "we're different than those other guys" and really lean into the old school small college town charm. That just doesn't transmit over zoom. There is a logical reason why the dominant schools even cleaned up more than usual last year and it is everything became about the business decision and not "touchy-feely" stuff since that was essentially legislated out of the process.
Posted on 8/11/21 at 3:43 pm to Diego Ricardo
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Oh and I think the NCAA rules for COVID w/r/t recruiting really hurt Auburn. Auburn's whole marketing spiel is essentially "we're different than those other guys" and really lean into the old school small college town charm. That just doesn't transmit over zoom.
That's absolutely true.
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